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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 05:52 PM
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If the TSA wants to get serious about security
why don't they focus on figuring out how to scan cargo/baggage (where the real threat is) and checking access to planes by contract and general employees before they subject the flying public to any more shit?

sP

Yes, it's another TSA thread...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 05:54 PM
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1. They do some of this
But due to...corporate concerns, read profits, things like preferred shipping still exists. Mind you it is better than it used to be.

But you are correct, that's one of the holes.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 05:57 PM
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3. some, indeed...
but if someone wants to bring down a plane, cargo is the easiest way to do it...or sneak something in through an airport employee who has access to planes.

sP
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Timmy5835 Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 05:55 PM
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2. Why don't we just do........
What Israel does. Works just great for them and it's relatively cheap.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 05:58 PM
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4. been to Israel about 15 times
and while it appears relatively unobtrusive, i doubt that it is inexpensive. several layers, highly trained...would cost $$$ to implement here...but i would prefer it to what we do now...

sP
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Timmy5835 Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 11:46 PM
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13. But compare that to......
....the costs for ALL those X-ray machines. Your talking hundreds of millions of dollars.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 06:38 AM
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17. oh, i am not arguing with you...
but the technology they have isn't cheap either. they do a lot more video surveillance than we do...have very complicated software that can identify odd/suspicious behavior. on the other hand, they are much more efficient at this whole security thing than we are. i think if we were REALLY interested in doing security right we could implement more of what they do...

sP
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 06:06 PM
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5. Off topic, was William your
Grandfather? If I have you confused with someone else I apologize.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:20 PM
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8. Great Grandfather...yes he was... n/t
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 10:41 PM
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12. He was a wonderful person.
I so enjoyed his posts.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 06:27 AM
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16. He was a great man on many levels...
and I still miss him (really gets me from time to time). I doubt I will ever live up to the man he was...but he is quite the target to shoot for...

sP
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 06:13 PM
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6. The bags in the hold get less scrutiny than the bags in our pants.



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katnapped Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 06:16 PM
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7. Sorry but what's in your pants is far more dangerous n/t
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:21 PM
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9. after the conception of our third child my wife would have agreed
;-)

sP
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:24 PM
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10. Bomb-sniffing dogs
Less intrusive and more effective than a grope search. And kids tend to love puppy dogs, even big puppy dogs.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:45 PM
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11. because this isn't about security and never has been
It's about making a populous fearful and controlling it with that fear.

It's not like this same scenario hasn't been done before in other countries.



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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 12:02 AM
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14. + 1
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 06:25 AM
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15. yepper... n/t
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