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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:02 AM
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Kansans blocked lawmakers from denying voting rights to mentally ill
Kansas voters have approved an amendment to their state constitution removing a provision that authorized the state legislature to deny the right to vote to anyone living with a mental illness. (BTW--It seems that the provision that was removed didn't even define 'mental illness.')

http://www.nami.org/Template.cfm?Section=Stigma_Alerts_Archive&template=/contentmanagement/contentdisplay.cfm&ContentID=110847&title=StigmaBusters%20-%20Nov.%202010


Do you know if your state denies the mentally ill the right to vote? Check out this list, you might be surprised:

http://www.nami.org/Template.cfm?Section=Elections1&Template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=104206



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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:10 AM
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1. If that was enforced, it would block the 26%ers.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:11 AM
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2. I'm pretty much OK if the mentally incompetent
are denied the right to vote. Not all mentally ill people are mentally incompetent.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:27 AM
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3. Based on the number of states with such laws I have no doubt
Edited on Sun Nov-21-10 09:29 AM by HereSince1628
that yours would be a common position.

What about 'partial' incompetence? Wisconsin would deny the franchise to partially incompetent persons.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:34 AM
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5. Should Mental Health in-patients be guaranteed access to voting
if their mental illness doesn't threaten their mental competence?

In-patients are frequently locked in and can't get to the polls or to absentee ballots?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:41 AM
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9. We have advanced voting in Kansas
So access wouldn't be a problem here.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:50 AM
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11. I'm not sure, people can be mental health in-patients for months.
I don't know how advanced voting works in Kansas. But it seems that a mental health in-patient might not have expected hospitalization and therefore might not have arranged to vote.

Although stays of several weeks are more common than long stays, longer stays are particularly true in the VA when the in-patient vet has no job or home to which she/he can return. My limited experience is that the VA is reluctant to turn a recovering mental health in-patient into a homeless vet.


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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 10:19 AM
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13. You can either request a ballot by mail or vote in person for 3 weeks before the election
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:38 AM
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7. Wow I am not. I live in Kansas and was glad to see this pass.
It was actually one of only two races on my ballot that won. (The other was my state rep, a good Dem who won re-election.)

Who decides if you are mentally competent enough to vote? What is the criteria? Is senility a reason to lose your right to vote? What about depression? 80% of the American public will be treated for some form of mental illness in their lifetime. How is disenfranchising them a good thing?
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:41 AM
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10. True, dementia, Alzheimer's and strokes are the leading causes
of decisions of mental incompetence in older adults.
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:32 AM
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4. Not one right winger would be allowed to vote.
They are all mentally incompetent or defective.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:37 AM
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6. And they would say the same of us...
and both statements would be wrong because they are false equivalences with mental illness.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:39 AM
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8. As much as I despise right wingers
I disagree with you on this.
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siligut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 10:08 AM
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12. Soviet Psychiatry anyone?
Should a certain wing of the government see fit to try to use this law, those who mutter "How convenient", would immediately be diagnosed with schizoid paranoia, voila! Catch 22.
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aka-chmeee Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 12:51 PM
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14. I voted to approve this measure.....
Even though I could imagine (wishful thinking, I know) that it could have been used to prevent most republicans from voting, a major improvement here in KS.
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