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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 05:35 PM
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The super patriots once again decry the use of civilian courts
Edited on Fri Nov-19-10 05:37 PM by noise
"Once the judge excluded the testimony of a witness who would have connected Ghailani to these horrible acts, which would have brought about a conviction, it became very, very difficult to convict him. This is the real danger, the real insanity if you will, of bringing these cases in a civilian court," said King. "If this had been in a military commission, that evidence would have been allowed and I'm confident that Ghailani would have been convicted."

However, Kaplan in his ruling on the witness said that the testimony would also have been excluded by a military judge because of restrictions on the use of evidence obtained through coercion.

But today, the nuances of legal procedure were largely drowned under a barrage of attacks on the president over the case. Keep America Safe, a rightwing group run by Liz Cheney, the former vice-president's daughter, and other hardline conservatives, called the decision to try Ghailani in a civilian court "irresponsible and reckless".

Barack Obama under pressure over 9/11 terror trials


There is a very creepy right wing notion that the public should stay quiet and not question any of the police state garbage.





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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 05:47 PM
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1. Fuck Liz Cheney
I guess she's afraid her dad might finally get his comeuppance somehow.

If we had a just America, he would.

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soryang Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:59 PM
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2. Looks like a compromise verdict
Edited on Fri Nov-19-10 07:00 PM by soryang
One juror didn't want to convict at all. This is how it was resolved. The problem with these trials is that the executive branch's actions including torture of the accused and witnesses is exposed to the subpoena power. A record of testimony under oath is produced which is available to discredit the agents and agencies of the executive branch for the rest of time. That is what they are afraid of. Even though Moussaui was convicted, it embarassed the executive branch's bs version of cell phone calls from highjacked aircraft. That claim was proven to be totally false.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 07:18 PM
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3. And for all their bluster
Not one mention of how Ghailani was tortured. Anti-constitutional rat-fuckers like King and Cheney should get out of the United States if they hate the Constitution that much. Plenty of places for them to land where rules of trial procedure begin with a bullet through the back of the skull, and end with a bill to the executed's family for the spent cartridge.
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