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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 02:46 PM
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False Equivalency Solution for MSNBC
When Keith was suspended, it was out-of-the-blue...totally unexpected, and shrouded in secrecy..

None of us had ANY idea how long it would last, who was to blame, if it would morph into cancellation..

The fact that Joe's donations became part of the story, made it necessary for MSNBC to handle his "situation"..

Probably, Joe was brought in & asked when it would be convenient for him to take a small dive on his nerf-sword, for PR purposes.

Joe parlayed this fake equivalency into extra time off Thanksgiving week..

Even though the Keith issue is apparently resolved, adding Joe's issues to the story just make it all "fair & balanced" as far as the bosses are concerned.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 02:49 PM
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1. At least they handled it.
At least an attempt was made to appear fair.

The whole thing was silly IMHO.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 02:52 PM
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3. I think they knew they had to include him
Had they done it immediately, like they did with Keith, I'd believe their sincerity a bit more.

MoaningJoe is not even on on Thu & Fri of next week, and the announcement came out on Friday..

Missing "work" has never been an issue with Joe.. He misses all the time, comes in late, etc..

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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 02:51 PM
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2. I just don't understand how these people can't just write a check to a friend and have them make it?
Are these folks so arrogant that they thought they could blatantly violate a contract/policy that they signed because they were above it? :shrug:
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 02:54 PM
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4. That's illegal. Geoffrey Feiger was tried for exactly that.
"Not guilty" was the verdict.

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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 02:56 PM
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6. 'Gift" 500 bucks to your friend. At lunch suggest they make a contribution to candidate 'A'
And pick up the check. :)
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 03:01 PM
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7. Check out the Feiger case...


Posted: 6:06 a.m. June 2, 2008 | Updated: 10 a.m. June 2, 2008
CAMPAIGN FINANCE TRIAL
Thank you, jurors, cleared Fieger says
By DAVID ASHENFELTER and JOE SWICKARD
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITERS

Attorney Geoffrey Fieger won a dramatic acquittal Monday on federal charges of violating campaign-finance laws, saving his lucrative career and sending federal prosecutors in Detroit to yet another crushing defeat in a high-profile case.

Jurors rejected each of the felony charges against Fieger and his law partner, Vernon (Ven) Johnson, and then eight to 10 of them repaired to a downtown Detroit hotel to hoist glasses of champagne with the two defendants and their legal team.

“I want to thank the jury for listening,” Fieger said after the jury announced its verdict. It came after nearly 20 hours of deliberations over four days and a 20-day trial in U.S. District Court. “I hope this puts an end to political prosecution in the age of Mr. Bush,” referring to President George W. Bush’s administration.

Johnson and Fieger hugged family members, supporters and their lawyers after the jury cleared them. A conviction on any one of 10 felony counts against Fieger, and five against Johnson, could have sent them to prison and ended their legal careers.

The verdict was a victory for famed Jackson, Wyo., lawyer Gerry Spence, 79, who told jurors in closing arguments that his defense of Fieger was the last trial of his career.

Spence called the verdict “one of the great moments in my life. … This is a nice way to end a career — representing a great lawyer who represents ordinary people.”

Jurors said they acquitted because prosecutors failed to prove that Fieger and Johnson illegally channeled money to the failed 2004 presidential campaign of Democrat John Edwards.


Read more: Thank you, jurors, cleared Fieger says | freep.com | Detroit Free Press http://www.freep.com/article/20080602/NEWS06/80602036/Thank-you-jurors-cleared-Fieger-says#ixzz15lCBXdPF
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 02:54 PM
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5. Me too..
Of course their friend might have already donated...

The real kicker is why they even bother with MONEY.. they have a more valuable gift to give.. airtime..
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 03:15 PM
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8. If we are to believe Olbermann
he said he didn't know about the policy. Maybe he didn't read the fine print or have his agent or lawyer go over it all with him. Contracts are often very very very long.

Ignorance is no excuse really, but it's still a silly policy IMHO.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 03:20 PM
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9. He said the policy wasn't spelled out in his contract
Edited on Fri Nov-19-10 03:46 PM by rocktivity
It's not in the MSNBC employee handbook, no one as NBC ever told him about it, and as an employee of MSNBC, it didn't apply to him anyway.

What Politico and MSNBC management should have done was get Keith's side of the story before going Shirley Sherrod on him.

:headbang:
rocktivity
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 03:33 PM
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10. Yeah
hearing about your suspension from the TV or reading it for the first time on the Internet is pretty bad form. They should have talked to him before any of it got leaked out.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 03:41 PM
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11. and before they suspended ANYONE, they should have also investigated
to see if others had done the same..

A room with 2 or 3 or 4 or more , who all got the same "suspension" notice would have been the fair way to do it... or at least confronting them individually on the same day...

Griffin stepped in it, the way he handled Keith's suspension...and this is his way to "prove" how even-handed he is..

For all we know, Joey may have suggested the solution to him...as a way to ingratiate himself...since everyone already knew about his donations anyway..
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 03:44 PM
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12. "Probably, Joe was brought in & asked when "
exactly. He was going to be on vacation for the week of Thanksgiving, so that's when they'd suspend him.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 05:39 PM
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13. It was always "implied" that Joe told them before he donated
so this after-the-fact suspension is just CYA..so Keith does not pursue it further with legal efforts
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