Global Climate Change -- Global Warming -- C-span -- House Hearings --

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Trying to watch but limited time --

However, my position here is always that Global Warming is the greatest threat

to our planet and humanity of any that we face -- and it's upon us --


This is the first Panel, evidently -- will be a second panel --

Rep. Brian Baird, Chair -- D/Washington



Amazing that there is actually a Meteorologist from MIT disputing --

Shameful that all of these hearings begun again by Democrats will now probably

be stopped by GOP --

One of the scientists was commenting on some of the best info we have being based

on reports from space -- NASA. He didn't mention it, but I'm quite sure that

W severely limited and changed the mission of NASA taking it out of the earth watch

business.



Gerald Meehl - National Center for Atmospheric Rdsearch - Sr. Scientist

"Greater intensity of persipitation" -- "when it rains it pours!"

"Increasing daily temperatures" --

And the Greenhouse model has been understood since the late 1800's --

"Heat now exceeds cold by 2 to 1" --



Heidi Cullen - CEO & Communications Director -- think she is also a scientist.

"10,000 years of our climate -- relatively stable "

"Greenhouse gas -- carbon dioxide -- everywhere -- WE increased 36% in atmosphere"

"Fingerprinting of CO2 which shows that it is essentially coming from US."

"Our fingerprint on the climate system -- identifiable."

"Extreme weather events are increasing - and are costly --"

"By end of century ... 10 degree increase -- 3 feet sea rise --"



Ralph Cicerone Pres National Academy of Sciences

"CO2 absorbs more heat than oxygen"

"Prevailing view -- abundant evidence -- humans have caused a substanital increase of CO2"

"Enchancing effect -- increasing water vapor - "


Richard Lindzen from MIT Metereoology Professor --

MIT shockingly evasive and nuts.

Part of his thesis: "Thermometers are more sensistive today to heat and cold!"


Baird -- "Today MORE Record highs than record lows -- "

Meehl confirming --

"Weather stations good daily records -- ratio now 2 to 1 --"

"Looked at this ratio we're 2 to 1 now -- a little less decade before that --"



Cullen -- "

Heat days will increase to 20 to 1 by middle of century -- compounds --

"If we continue business as usual Cullins."


Rep. Inglis/R questioning Lindzen -- and interesting how including a denier will distort

and interfere with discussion -- we see the success of that technique here often on websites.


Rep. Roscoe Bartlet/R-Maryland

Wonders why everyone isn't linked in supporting an end to burning fossil fuels?

"Energy outlook we have peaked in conventional oil production -- 65 million barls a day --"

"Chart shows plummeting to 15 million barls by 2025 -- 15 years from now"

"Move to Alternatives -- good reasons to move away from fossil fuel use"

And interesting pro-environment/nature Repug!!


Cullen replies -- "invested infrastructure difficult to change"

She confirms it is clear we need to shift away from fossil fuels"



Lindzner replies -- "Profoundly dishonest!" Amazing that they've allowed this idiot in.


Chairman Baird --

"National interests which are meritorious and policy should be consistent with the

common interest --"


Rep. Dana Rohrabacher/R-CA --

"Trying to mussle an opposition view to the manmade Global Warming travesty!"

Complaining only one witness against Global Warming

"Made a mockery out of science and happy we at least have one witness on the other side!"

"Mankind or natural cycle -- even if manmade, not a major factor but only a minor factor

in what is going on!" And he encourages Lindzen --

and continues on ...

"Scare tactics to get people to accept controls over their lives that they would otherwise

not accept -- trying to frighten the public on an issue to achieve a political end.

And this is one of the worst examples --"


Meehl responds -- "Science gets blurred with political issue --

We're here to discuss science


Baird -- we should all agree that this is no "hoax" --



Second panel came in --

We seem to have another denier -- Patrick Michaels -- CATO INSTITUTE~!



Have to go but will try to catch up with the hearings again later --

Again -- it is really regretful that the hearings that Democrats began on all of the

many subjects to be investigated and discussed -- like Global Warming -- will probably

now be discontinued to GOP!!

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1. Watch while you can! If the House holds another hearing in the next two years . . .

. . . it'll feature a fortune-teller "channeling" Michael Crichton from beyond the grave.

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4. There's so much to be investigated ... the Afghanistan restoration contracts yesterday!!!

It's obvious they put someone inexperienced and willing to go along in that spot!

[Viking12]

2. Link below:

Overall a pretty good hearing. Even a Republican House member from South Carolina disses the deniers. Ben Santer lays the smack down on denier Pat Michaels in panel 2 (starting at about 35:00).

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/Media/2010/11/17/Congress/A/40918/House+Science+Technology+Subcommittee+Hearing+on+Climate+Change+Science.aspx

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5. Yes ... I did manage to catch some of Santer's testimony .... no notes tho!

Thanks for the link -- maybe something this weekend I can get back to it!!

:)

[Kennah]

3. Bartlett is absolutely amazing ...

... and he's been a nutjob tea bagger since long before there was a Tea Bagger Movement, and even long before John Waters made "Pecker"

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6. I was really taken back because I wasn't familiar with Bartlett ......it was great!

Cause he's using basic common sense at the end -- though he's arguing energy --

but basically.... why don't we just do what makes sense and end this fossil fuel thing!

Also makes sense from the very basis of pollution -- health issues -- eta -- before you

even begin to argue energy.

PLUS, there's a big political argument here -- those who control our natural resources are

made immensely wealthy -- wealthy enough to exert control over our government!

Doesn't help either that oil is hugely important to MIC -- and MIC and president are

invested in controlling it as a "national security issue"!!

Like the "Drug War" there myriad reasons to STOP.

A waste of resources -- and it also creates political/government corruption.


Interesting comments!! :)