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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 12:27 PM
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TSA confiscates heavily armed soldiers nail clippers
Well, at least they weren't irradiated and/or groped...

"Here's an anonymous account of a US Army soldier returning from Afghanistan who watched as his buddies -- who were all carrying high-powered rifles, pistols, etc -- were forced to surrender their nail-clippers and multi-tools:"
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/11/19/tsa-confiscates-heav.html

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 12:30 PM
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1. Um, that doesn't sound right. Regular soldiers wouldn't be traveling
through US airports with firearms, would they?
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 12:33 PM
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3. Exactly correct
Regular Army U.S. soldiers, SpecOps or otherwise, would not be flying a commercial flight with rifles, pistols, or buzzguns.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 12:34 PM
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4. +1
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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 12:57 PM
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10. I don't know.
I was in the National Guard and we flew on a commercial charter flight to and from Italy 20 years ago, but we didn't even take our weapons, as we were on a training mission with the Italian Alpini - we took skis, etc... But other than that, it could have been a normal civilian flight, full of uniformed soldiers.

The link from Redstate posted below seems to be the same incident with a little more detail. All I can say is that we also refueled at Shannon, and went into the concours like normal passengers. We disembarked in New England so we didn't have any transfers, etc. On balance, I find the story plausible.:shrug:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 01:10 PM
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13. I don't think military personnel are allowed to carry weapons on their
persons while traveling on commercial flights. I think firearms are carefully controlled and inventoried and issued only at certain times and places.
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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 02:10 PM
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15. Again, I don't know.
Yes, weapons are carefully controlled, etc... (Sidestory - When I was in the 101st, a neighboring unit came back in from the field, and an M-16 went missing as they turned in their weapons. The entire battalion (~800 men) were sent back out to look for it. They stayed out there for almost a month, until their families raised such a ruckus due to Thanksgiving approaching that they were brought back in. It was eventually determined that it went out the gate in a soldier's trunk - he's probably still doing time at Leavenworth. It's a big deal.)

There are commercial flights and commercial flights. The military charters flights solely for its use - as I indicated earlier. They don't have sufficient military aircraft to move everyone around on their own. If they had the plane to themselves, the easiest way to get their small arms from place to place would be to let the soldiers carry them. As the story says, the ammo was secured separately. Remember, they are traveling in and out of a war zone with no front lines.

Charter flights would also be likely to fly into civilian airports due to logistical requirements - either military facilities were not local, convenient, or equipped to service the civilian aircraft. So far, I can't see much to discredit the story, other than everybody saying that troops can't do that, but nobody has shown any proof of that belief, and I don't have any, either.:shrug:

When I googled earlier, it was clear the story was viral, so it should be confirmed or refudiated soon. (I can't believe I just said that! :rofl:)
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 12:32 PM
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2. That is about as stupid as screening the pilots every day
It is getting really stupid out there.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 12:36 PM
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5. This sounds like a false story. Military personnel do not fly
on commercial aircraft while armed. Nail-clippers are allowed in the passenger cabin now. Multi-tools almost always feature a knife blade, and are not allowed in the passenger cabin on any flights, whoever carries them. This sounds like a cooked-up story. No thank you.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 12:40 PM
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6. anonymous anecdote posted by Eric Erickson at RedState.org
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haifa lootin Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 12:44 PM
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7. Woah, that bent the needle on my satirometer...
;-)
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 12:47 PM
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8. it's not satire
it's a made up story intended to believed as true.
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haifa lootin Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 12:49 PM
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9. You're right, I was looking at the wrong meter...it was actually my bullshit detector.
:D
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 01:05 PM
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11. A very reliable source told me about a pilot having to surrender his nail clipper
because it's not like he'd have access to the crash axe once he was in the cockpit.
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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 01:07 PM
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12. Or the controls...
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 01:17 PM
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14. They once confiscated my mother's very dangerous tweezers.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 02:25 PM
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16. If the flight got turbulent
she could have put her eye out!
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veganlush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:57 PM
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17. hehehehehe
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