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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:45 PM
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McCaskill: "I'm wildly excited ..I can walk thru a machine instead of getting my dose of love pats."
O M G



Senators and TSA Defend "Love Pats" at Airports

By Joshua Norman
CBS News

November 17, 2010


(CBS) Transportation Safety Administration chief John Pistole and several senators from both parties defended the new, enhanced airport security screening procedures as necessary in the face of a persistent and evolving terrorist threat in a hearing Wednesday on Capitol Hill.

Pistole, calm and confident in the face of an increasing public outcry against the procedures, talked extensively about the repercussions of last year's attempted Christmas Day bombing being the impetus for the enhanced screenings before the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee, TSA's oversight committee.

"We know the terrorists' intent is still there," Pistole testified. "We are using technology and protocols to stay ahead of the threat and keep you safe. (Several near-misses by terrorists on airplane bombings) got through security because we were not being thorough enough in our pat-downs."

Sen. Claire McCaskill of Missouri said prior to Pistole's testimony that she believed TSA was in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation, because people would be hopping mad at TSA if Christmas bomber Umar Farouk Adbulmutallab had succeeded. She went on to say the new advanced imaging technology--which has caused uproar because of its leave-no-secrets imaging and potential health risks--is more of a blessing than a curse.

"I'm wildly excited that I can walk through a machine instead of getting my dose of love pats," Sen. McCaskill said.




U.S. Constitution: Fourth Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.




That we are rapidly approaching a police state, with further violations of our Fourth Amendment rights to be secure in our persons, apparently doesn't dampen Claire McCaskill's wild excitement.





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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:50 PM
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1. And what's it called when they give those "love pats" to children?
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:51 PM
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2. That's my Senator.......
:banghead:
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:17 PM
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17. Only until the next election
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 11:08 PM
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33. If she's replaced, it will be with someone much worse.
I know my state. It makes me cringe like hell to see her defending this, but so would Bond, Talent, Blunt, and whatever Republican jackass they get to run against her in '12.
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Moostache Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 12:26 PM
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39. True....and that makes me serious about moving out of "Missourah" very soon.
I am in northern Jefferson County and find myself just shaking my head in disbelief at the volume of Tea-bagger idiots around here. They are outraged at the intrusion of government and blame it all on Obama but almost none of them even realize that TSA was NOT a Democratic Party initiative...more victims of the Gospel according to Ailes...
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:21 PM
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50. What?
Volume of them? They are outraged at the intrusion of government?
That can't be true. I've been told on here a million times that us dumb ol rednecks would happily vote for a progressive if one would run.

Same thing is true over here just north of KC, Moos. But I'll be damned if I'm leaving. :toast:
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 02:23 PM
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43. I keep waiting for that scumbag Talent to resurface.
What a disgusting human being.
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:14 PM
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48. KC here
and Claire is setting herself up to finish just like Robin C. in the next election.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:53 PM
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3. Good, lets put them at the Senators entrance to the capitol...
and publish the scans on senate.gov for the public to judge
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:53 PM
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4. sometimes she borders on the down-right creepy side
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:53 PM
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5. So now a public official admits the searches can be sexual in nature?
I'm sure that's exactly the message the TSA wants out there.

:rofl:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:54 PM
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6. d-e-t-a-c-h-e-d
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:55 PM
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7. Rapidly approaching?
We've been there for a while.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:55 PM
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8. A big fat dose of radiation makes Republics tingle in all the right places.
Jesus will protect them from cancer, so no worries.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:57 PM
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10. Trouble is, McCaskill is a Dem
But then again:shrug:
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:01 PM
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13. Lol... She's about to be unemployed. Nt
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:29 PM
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22. And why is that? nt
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 12:19 PM
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37. primary. nt
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 02:13 PM
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41. You think Missouri is going to elect someone to the left of McCaskill?
It's nearly a miracle that we got her.
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 03:40 PM
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45. the primary crowd might be stong enough to defeat her. nt
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 12:50 AM
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53. Defeat her, and elect a Republican far to her right.
Yes, that's a desirable trade. :eyes:
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 03:50 PM
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46. Ah, you never know,
Missourians like to be contrarians, and just when people think they've got us figured out for some sort of red state hell, we throw up a complete loopy leftwinger who has captured our imagination and our hearts. Granted, this doesn't happen very often, but it does happen.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:22 PM
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51. McCaskill has got to go. She publicly demeaned her constituents who
Edited on Fri Nov-19-10 04:23 PM by avaistheone1
were petitioning for single payer too. McCaskill did it in such a mean, cruel manner. I hope she is excited when she is greeted in hell too. This woman is a real devil.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:27 PM
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52. I agree, but the question becomes who?
Carnahan pretty much shot her wad this year, and there's no real bright star on our Democratic horizon.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 03:44 AM
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54. It scares me that you're serious. nt
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:55 PM
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9. omg These politicians shouldn't be allowed out without supervision
:banghead:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:58 PM
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11. It has nothing to do with the 4th amendment
It is not a matter of being suspected of a crime. It is merely worry about the safety of aluminum tubes traveling 500 mph 40000 feet up in the air, and when you're in one, that is your whole world as far as your life is concerned. It has to be a safe place. If the risk of being bombed up there is one you'll take rather than avoid going through that machine, you're nuts. the point is not "love pats" (it is strangely sick that people confuse this with sex) it's no bombs. No bombs on person. None on the other persons also in said tube.



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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:02 PM
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14. i get in aluminum tubes often with no checkpoint
they are called trains, tgv, high speed trains and there are no security checks and people on the train are not scared that they are going to die....
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:07 PM
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15. That's absolute horse shit.
The 4th Amendment doesn't apply only to those "suspected of a crime". It applies to ALL CITIZENS.

1.) Buying a ticket does not constitute "probable cause" that a passenger is transporting a banned item or intents to attack someone.

2.) A government agent's hand in my ass crack and touching my gonads is UNREASONABLE.


And the worst?

It's COMPLETELY INEFFECTIVE!

If I can carry enough chemical substances in my ass crack and under my scrotum to bring down a plain, I can surely carry enough INSIDE my BODY.

No, this practice violates my constitutional rights AND fails to protect me.

It's a LOSE-LOSE.
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:22 PM
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19. Yeah!
Stop infringing on our 4th Amendment rights.

Well, except when "protecting" us from our 2nd Amendment fears.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:59 PM
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24. The language should be crystal clear, there is no carve out for transit.
The same thing that applies to a plane, train, or automobile applied to ships, wagons, foot traffic, horses, and trains when they came down the pipe.

Planes are not a magical exception to privacy or search and seizure.
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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 11:25 PM
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35. Flying is a risk.
You are far more likely to die from a crash unrelated to a terrorist plot.

You claim "it has to be a safe place", but guess what?

It's not.

Flying is a risk.

And it's irrational fears such as this one that lead to further erosion of our rights, since so many folks think just like you do.

Make way for the cavity searches! Coming soon to a TSA theater near you...
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 12:20 PM
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38. Wow...just wow.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:59 PM
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12. Claire, you were already on shaky ground in some folks book before
For your adherence to the center right side of the spectrum. Keep advocating for the trashing of the Constitution in the name of security, well, I could very well find somebody else to support, as could many, many others in this state.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 10:22 PM
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29. Like who?
I'm pretty skeptical that when I show up to vote in early August 2012 there will be another Senate candidate on the Democratic ballot who represents an improvement over Sen. McCaskill.

Any grassroots attempt at launching a primary challenge against the Senator needs to start getting organized very soon if it's going to be effective. That means vague platitudes about what a hypothetical candidate might be like are meaningless. We need an actual name of this candidate, and I'm hard pressed to think of anybody in Missouri that comes close to meeting the criteria of (1) being able to beat McCaskill in the primary, (2) being able to win in November, and (3) representing a noticeable improvement over the Senator on policy matters.

Am I overlooking somebody? Who's a Missourian that would make a good challenger to McCaskill?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:10 PM
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16. RHIP - Rank Has It's privileges. Only the common herd gets fondled.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 10:47 PM
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30. If anyone here thinks a sitting US Senator stands in a long
Edited on Thu Nov-18-10 10:48 PM by LibDemAlways
line and endures either a nude-o-scope or a genital frisk they're probably also investing in ocean front property in Arizona.

You are correct. The rules don't apply to the rich and powerful.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:21 PM
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18. 1.) the TSA DIDN'T catch Mr. Underpants--he would've succeeded had the passengers next to him not
been awake

2.) those bleating "vote for any D because the R is always worse" ensure that the worst sort of D quickly prevails--it's like soldiers knowing there will be absolutely no real repercussions for anything. it creates a culture of impunity that unsurprisingly brings out the worst in the worst sort of person. saying that no-Talent would've been even worse is nothing more than a blatant attempt to excuse her mewling gratitude toward the police state.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:23 PM
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20. I don't recall TSA stopping underwear bomber from flying.
He got on the plane no problems.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:25 PM
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21. "Wildly exicted" might have been not the best choice of words...
I am just saying...
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:45 PM
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23. That's what I noticed first too.
Edited on Thu Nov-18-10 06:46 PM by surrealAmerican
We don't all share her particular kink on this one.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:05 PM
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25. To bad the article's header is wrong.
She didn't defend "love pats", she defended the new scanning machine that can be used INSTEAD OF "love pats".

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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:07 PM
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26. Gawd she's totally clueless or
bought and paid for. x(
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:07 PM
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27. Sharing a Party with McCaskill makes me sick
Aside from what she says, like so many of the current politicians, the way she says it is always just repugnant. Such a bad statement, for so many reasons. I loathe her.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 09:19 PM
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28. Agreed & Well Said
I haven't liked Claire for a very long time.

I often wonder if we would not be better off had Jim Talent won... At least we knew he was a Republican. She has sounded like one for a very long time.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 10:56 PM
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31. Good reelection move, Senator!
:sarcasm::sarcasm:
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 03:38 AM
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36. Agreed & Well Said
I don't think this will set well with the few remaining Democrats in this state or the seemingly expanding GOP Majority that just elected Blunt.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 11:04 PM
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32. So will we have people going through security over and over for the "feel" of it?
:think:
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 11:09 PM
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34. Senator, if this wildy excites you, who's been "love patting" your head with a sledgehammer? n/t
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 12:29 PM
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40. As if she's using commercial airlines.
Edited on Fri Nov-19-10 12:38 PM by Marr
I don't think many people realize just how profoundly different are the lives of our entrenched patricians.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 02:16 PM
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42. Goofball.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 02:30 PM
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44. Claire McCaskill looking for love
in all the wrong places
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angrychair Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 03:57 PM
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47. At the risk of sounding like a jerk
No one is being forced to fly in an airplane. The fourth admendment does not apply in this case. Flying is a commerical enterprise with serious safety risk and there are trade-offs for the speed and ease of flying. I say this for another reason as well. A more important reason. If you dont like something, talking about it is NOT going to fix it. It is a good way to get information out but it isn't going to actually fix it. When it comes right down to it, it is all about money. If you don't like some stranger grabbing at your goods, then don't fly. If enough people don't fly because of it THEN things will change. All the hyperbole in the world can't be heard over the sounds of jets taking off and landing...it only works when they are all quiet when people choose, with the power of the almighty dollar, to not fly under the existing conditions.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:16 PM
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49. What exactly is to stop TSA from doing the same things
on trains, buses, or even random check points on highways? What are you going to say then? Nobody is has to take a bus, a train, or to drive anywhere? We should all just stay home?
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:15 AM
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55. You are aware that the TSA is a government agency
right? The airlines(commercial enterprises)have no say in the matter. The fourth amendment does apply.
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