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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:20 PM
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Appalling picture of the day...
This is what Americans have been reduced to, as a result of TSA policy that even the Israelis note has no evidence-basis for efficacy. I want to live as a free American and not as a pawn of those making profits from these scanners, nor reduced to a subhuman being with no rights. I do not believe there is such a thing as absolute safety from terrorism, but I do believe we can reach a degree of assurance without these procedures used indiscriminately. If we don't draw a line in the sand here, will we all be subject to body cavity searches? Think about it.

While this shot is of an adult male (and fortunately not a child), I find it no less horrendous.


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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:22 PM
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1. Is that service $15 per bag too?
:hide:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:34 PM
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5. LOL
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:44 PM
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12. am i missing something about 15 dollars a bag?
is that a tax or an airline fee?
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 03:34 PM
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24. A lot of airlines are charging $15 or $25 per checked piece of luggage.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:33 PM
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28. low cost airlines like easyjet or ryanair do that here in europe
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:02 PM
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36. LOL!
Nice one. :toast:
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toddwv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:24 PM
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2. How much do they charge
for a happy ending?
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onecent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:30 PM
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3. This is DOWNRIGHT DISGUSTING!!!!!
He is ENJOYING that WAY TOOO MUCH!!!!!DAMN!!!
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:35 PM
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6. how are they trained? on each other?
or is it just a 'go do it, feel for odd things' kind of a deal?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:38 PM
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9. DisguSTING!! The only word..and Americans are just putting up with it???
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 03:26 PM
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20. You really think that's the face of enjoyment?
I think you might be projecting.

I am sure TSA workers dislike this as much as the passengers. It's a JOB, not an afternoon at a bordello.
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canadianbeaver Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:33 PM
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4. I wish someone would relieve themselves when they are touched
down there.....Ooops...sorry I peed on you....peon!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:36 PM
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7. This is yet another example of how we don't go to the 'experts' (like the Israelis
to learn from them, take advantage of their experience, but decide what we're going to do on our own and make sure that it benefits the coffers of the Chertoffs of the world. :grr:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:37 PM
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8. Another thought - I feel so bad for those workers who have to do this. Can you
imagine? It's not so easy to quit a job these days. IF I'm ever subjected to this, I'm going to try to remember to be nice to the gropers.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:42 PM
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10. "Cough"
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:42 PM
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11. Appalling. nt
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:44 PM
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13. I see a whole new genre of porn starting to evolve here: Airport Handjob Movies
Move over, furries. Get lost, crush videos. It's time for a new fad
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:46 PM
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14. reminds me of my teenage years in the suburbs of chicago
where riding a bmx bike was suspicious and got you searched like that by the cops because everyone knew that kids riding bikes had drugs.... honestly they molested me many times like that before i even smoked weed, hell we started weed half because we were constantly having cops feel our dicks and tell us we were small while they were searching for drugs so we figured we may as well enjoy being high...
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:46 PM
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15. "Why do I always get stuck with turn your head and cough?
-Frank Burns
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:47 PM
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16. get hard in their hand
i did that to a cop searching me for weed once when i was a teenager and it fucking freaked him out!
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:49 PM
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17. Just think of the bright side..
Some men will have their hitherto unknown testicular cancer discovered in this manner..

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 03:23 PM
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18. Oh, yeah... TSA---just like the best trained docs at Johns Hopkins...
Edited on Thu Nov-18-10 03:23 PM by hlthe2b
without the education, but hey, no insurance co-pay :eyes:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 03:24 PM
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19. OK. If there is a bomb on a plane, would you agree, no lawsuits
for any of the survivors? This is so terrible, you are willing to risk the bomb rather than go through with it. Then why should the government - the taxpayers - have to pay out damages when everyone was willing to take the risk? I bet the answer is no. The government should just pay either way.

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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 03:31 PM
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23. What risk? We've got 10 years without a plane blowing up, using
the regular pat down.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 11:45 AM
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39. 10 years is enough?
When any plane, gods forbid, blows up, who is going to get the blame? The terrorists? For about five minutes. And what will be next. Why didn't the TSA stop it?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :nuke: There would be a thousand DU threads saying that.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 11:49 AM
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42. Ten years is a proven track record.
But some people won't be happy until they have to have body cavity searches just to park in a parking garage, I guess.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 11:51 AM
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43. I wouldn't go that far.
But the point is, are people against it willing to say that the TSA would not be to blame if something did happen? No lawsuits against the government? Seems unfair to hold the government liable unless they were negligent. So there should be no one saying it is negligent not to pat down the passengers and crew.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 11:52 AM
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45. I see that money seems to be your bottom line.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 11:54 AM
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46. No, fairness
So the government should not be held negligent for not doing a pat-down on everyone. It would be hypocritical to be against doing it and then saying it was negligent not to do it.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:44 PM
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30. This is theater and at this point I need to ask
are you THAT FUCKING AFRAID?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:58 PM
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34. If I'm afraid to fly, it has little to do with risk of terrorism...
and more to do with fear I will lose it if pushed to the limit by arrogant TSA-- and wind up in jail. Or the stress of dealing with the idiocy will spike my BP into stroke range. Truly.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:01 PM
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35. It was directed at the other poster
you got mail
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:08 PM
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37. I know... My comment is only meant to echo the sentiment
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 11:47 AM
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40. What does that have to do with what I asked?
If you hold the TSA does not have to do this then there should be no lawsuits from the bombing victims where this might have stopped the bomber. No? That's the only fair trade.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 03:26 PM
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21. No doubt in my mind.




It will have to be an extreme emergency before I travel by air again.

Phuck this shit.



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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 03:29 PM
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22. LOL. I'm just imagining some of these homophobic, macho
males having to go thru this procedure. Someone's gonna get hurt.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:23 PM
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25. Drudge has been running with this nonstop... the RW is split on this
but lots are going apeshit in opposition. Even Coulter has come out sounding somewhat (partially) rational on the whole issue. In fact he is running the same graphic, but I got it elsewhere.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:50 PM
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33. There is UNITY on this one between freepers
and DU'ers... or at least a good chunk of both.

This must be scaring some folks at the highest levels of government. For once they are not screaming at each other. Hell, Hartmann had a rightie today, they never agree on anything... today they fully agreed.
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Mona Blue Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:25 PM
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26. Come on.
You'd enjoy it. Just admit it.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:42 PM
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29. NO more than I'd enjoy being raped... Sorry, I normally like dark humor
but this one is hard to laugh at. Degrading other Americans with little evidence to back up the policy is just not my idea of a hearty laugh.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:32 PM
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27. Wait until some nut blows himself up with plastique up his ass.
Drop your drawers and bend over
Courtesy of American Paranoia
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:44 PM
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31. Absolutely, we have gone certifiably nuts
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:45 PM
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32. That could be my husband on our last trip out of LaGuardia.
Edited on Thu Nov-18-10 04:47 PM by mnhtnbb
Not really. But he got the same treatment as this older gentleman. Look at the man's hands.

Both hubby and I have hip replacements. He never gets through without being pulled aside; for some
strange reason in the last year or so I sometimes get through and don't have to be felt up.

I almost--almost--said in a very loud voice when he was submitted to this indignity:

I hope you're happy convincing yourself that a retired USAF Major isn't a threat to our safety!

On edit: I think it's appalling that we have allowed ourselves to become such a nation of sheep
treated as terrorists UNTIL we prove ourselves innocent.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:04 PM
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38. That TSA dude's definitely in the junkyard
Get in there real good, just like Commander Sick Fuck told you to...
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 11:48 AM
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41. Next time I fly I'm going for the pat down..
And when my he starts rubbing around my nads I'm going to start moaning..

Oh Oh, Oh that's the spot..WooHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

Maybe a couple little hip thrusts


Just to see what kind of reaction I get :)
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 11:52 AM
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44. Are women examined the same way??
I can only imagine the horror they must be going through.
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