President Obama to award George H.W. Bush the Presidential Medal of Freedom

[The Northerner]

Source: New York Daily News

President Obama dropped a bipartisan bombshell today, announcing he will award the Presidential Medal of Freedom next year to ex-President George H.W. Bush.

The magnanimous gesture of bestowing the nation’s highest civilian honor to the 41st U.S. President came a day after ex-President George W. Bush gave a respectful nod to Obama at the groundbreaking of his library in Dallas.

“The decisions of governing are on another President’s desk, and he deserves to make them without criticism from me,” Bush said at the site of his future library at Southern Methodist University.

NBA Hall of Famer Bill Russell, St. Louis (baseball) Hall of Famer Stan Musial, cellist Yo-Yo Ma, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Wall Street wizard Warren Buffett top the list of scholars, athletes, artists, achievers and do-gooders who will be presented the award at a White House ceremony early next year.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/11/17/2010-11-17_president_obama_to_award_george_w_bush_the_presidential_medal_of_freedom_.html

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Tell me this isn't true.

If so, then the NY Daily News should be sued immediately!

[ixion]

1. *facepalm*

It just keeps comin'... :( :puke:

[Evasporque]

46. ..

[66 dmhlt]

298. The New, More Powerful Mutant FacePalm ...

When an ordinary facepalm just won't do:

[Poll_Blind]

2. Here's the link at the White House. This was all Obama.

Right here

PB

[Deep13]

74. Merkel too?

It doesn't give any real reasons for the award. Just that Bush did such and such in the past.

[Poll_Blind]

172. I noticed that about the Bush description too. The other ones at least attempt to...

...explain why they are receiving the award. I did think that was odd.

PB

[goforit]

98. Yes. kissing the ring of the "maffia don" = Obama is a putz

[TheWatcher]

117. +1

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ZPUIbpPl1ME/S3kurpexq-I/AAAAAAAAAV4/PQFAskzTmOE/s320/Kiss+the+ring,+bitch!.png

[StarsInHerHair]

299. so what happens if he didn't kiss the don's ring?

nt

[Romulox]

3. Disgusting. nt

[Bragi]

4. Mindless toadying bipartisanship rocks! /nt

[felinetta]

8. And you can you just imagine the praise and cheesy grins on every politicians face on Reagan's

100th birthday in January instead of cutting him to shreds for
what he did to our nation.

[xxqqqzme]

36. Will we be treated to a four day non-stop

non-event like his 10 day funeral? Will they be putting the casket on display or giving it a tour of the country? I wouldn't put it past any of these idol worshipers.

[KoKo]

296. I hope not! Ugh!

[timtom]

180. Now, be fair.

After all, Obama DID win the Nobel Prize(!!!!?????)

[Shining Jack]

291. Yeah.

He accomplished so much great things to deserve it. :(

[jaxx]

5. Congratulations to the recipients to be.

Life isn't lived as red or blue, it's lived as people. This is a well rounded group.

[wtmusic]

9. Well-rounded it is: a sports hero, a billionaire philanthropist, a war criminal.

Life isn't lived at all if you're one of the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed by W's murderous, unnecessary campaign. W should be rotting in prison, much less receiving an award.

:eyes:

[jaxx]

10. W isn't getting the award, his father GHWB is.

Lots of different people do lots of good things in their lives. Far be it from me to begrudge someone being recognized for doing something good.

[hatrack]

14. Google "Orlando Letelier" sometime, OK?

nt

[jaxx]

22. That name isn't on the recipient list.

[Kalyke]

95. The poster is referring to this:

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/apr2010/lete-a20.shtml

[jaxx]

210. A socialist website?

I'm a Democrat, not a socialist.

[DireStrike]

272. How mean spirited.

Why don't you just come out and say that you don't think George the Older is a war criminal? Why beat around the bush?

Also, please just come out and say that you think socialists are so crazy that you won't trust any news article from any of their sites, instead of just implying it.

[XemaSab]

51. May as well just cut out the middle man and give the thing to Kissinger

x(

[Shining Jack]

294. Why not?

After all that scumbag received the Nobel peace prize in 1973. :puke:

[Demoiselle]

19. Oh, dear. I got the wrong Bush.

Now, tell me about all the good George H.W. Bush has done for us.
I can come up with a long list of more deserving recipients. And yes, I begrudge this one, even if it is Poppy.

[TheWatcher]

26. Poppy is a Monster.

I wonder when he's going to give one to Prescott?

[ProSense]

29. He's the monster Clinton has been running around with. n/t

[Name removed]

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[ProSense]

44. Right,

the Clinton fans who spend most of their time slamming Obama don't seem to make the same distinctions.

In fact, some of the anti-Obama crowd have taken to the claiming "at least Bush" did this or that.

Yes, I'll point to hypocrisy.

[TheWatcher]

47. You're counting me among the Clinton fans?

Clinton lost me long ago.

His special friendship with Poppy says more about him, than it does Poppy, to say the VERY least.

Still you have to give o'l Bubba credit where Credit is due.

One of the Best Republican Presidents we ever had.

[AndrewP]

127. Some of us "Clinton Fans" like the current President as well....

but that probably doesn't matter to the anti-Clinton crowd.

[KoKo]

220. ProSense...I applaude you for being TRUE to Your Candidate..but PLEASE LISTEN!

There are OTHERS WHO HAVE COME BEFORE YOU...who might have SOME INSIGHT!

AND...None of us work harder for Democrats to be Elected than YOU DO! Just think about us Dems who worked so hard for DECADES and have some SYMPATHY with us? Can you do this?

[niceypoo]

260. "Clinton fans who spend most of their time slamming Obama"

Drama queen

:rofl:

[neverforget]

115. Iran Contra was cool! Totally deserves a Medal for that!

:sarcasm:

[TheWatcher]

119. Don't forget Panama and That Robust Economy he presided over.

He's So DREAMY!

He deserved to get his Machismo on!

:sarcasm:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Panama_Deception

[neverforget]

123. Totally awesome! Bush Senior is so much better than Junior.

[TheWatcher]

143. I KNOW! Just goes to show you can't judge an entire Crime Family because of the actions

of one nutty Black Sheep.

:rofl:

[neverforget]

148. The problem with Junior is that he's dumb but Senior was smart enough to

get away with his crimes. Totally deserves a Medal of Freedom for that!

[Hell Hath No Fury]

150. And that says a whole lot about Mr.Bil Clinton.

[TheWatcher]

163. None Of It Good.

[superduperfarleft]

201. There's that red herring again.

What the hell does Bill Clinton have to do with anything remotely related to the topic at hand?

[wtmusic]

23. Ah, my bad.

:thumbsup:

[madmax]

24. I owe G.H.W. Bush

He passed mandatory CC included in the ADA Act which he signed during his 1 term. So for millions of us who are either deaf or hearing impaired, that was/is a BFD! Thanks G.W.H.

[jaxx]

53. That was very important for a great many people.

Definitely a BFD.

[RaleighNCDUer]

54. You do understand he signed that legislation - he didn't write it, he

didn't lobby for it, he had NOTHING to do with it. All he did was not veto it. And it would have passed over his veto if he had been opposed to it.

Sure, it was great legislation - to which he was a bystander.

[madmax]

78. Correct me if I'm wrong but, if he didn't sign it -

it wouldn't have come to pass and I and millions of others would not enjoy the benefits of JS, KO, Rachel, BIG Ed, movies, documentaries, etc....

Whatever, he signed it.

[RaleighNCDUer]

82. It was given to him by the Senate. He HAD to either sign it or veto it.

If he had, for any bizarre reason, vetoed it, it would have passed over his veto.

Once it came out of the Senate it was a done deal. He gets no credit for it.

[StevieM]

219. Actually, the president can allow a bill to become law without his or her signature.

If a bill is not signed or vetoed within 10 days then it automatically becomes law.

[BlueIris]

71. Credit where it is due.

I have also been thankful for the precedent set by the ADA, even if the ADA itself...let's just say it could be in better shape.

[madmax]

81. It amazes me that just because we disagreed with any

elected officials - one can not praise or be grateful for something right they did.

Thanks for joining me on this particular 'good thing' G.H.W signed. :toast:

[Hannah Bell]

140. bush senior is a war criminal too.

[Dr.Phool]

167. Remember Panama?

Just to prove he wasn't a wimp?

Turns out he was a cold-blooded wimp.

[Chulanowa]

185. Poppy's a war criminal too

In fact he's a bigger war criminal than the spawn of his loins could ever hope to be.

[piratefish08]

214. Good? like Iran Contra good?

[TBF]

248. And you believe GHW Bush does not deserve the title "war criminal"?

Another view: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/American_Empire/BushI_Iraq_LFE.html

[Demoiselle]

11. Well rounded indeed...

Star athletes and musicians,a prominent civic minded tycoon, leading European politician and, and...a man responsible for the deaths of thousands of his own countrymen and women (to say nothing of other people in the world.) Oh yeah and throw in the final stripping of middle class ecomomic well-being in his own country as well.

Gosh, to get any more well-rounded than that, you'd have to add Sadam Hussein himself.

[jaxx]

15. LOL don't any of them meet expectations?

[Poll_Blind]

20. Next year, maybe Andy Kaufman, Elie Wiesel, Genevieve Clark and....Stalin?

:rofl:

I'm laughing at the absurdity of it all but the hitching laughter isn't so far away from hitching sobs. Your point about HW Bush was, of course, spot on.

:thumbsup:

PB

[AndrewP]

131. I love Andy Kaufman! I'd go to that ceremony....

if he weren't dead and all. :)

[madmax]

42. Not W....

It's the old man not the DimSon. I read it quickly and thought the same thing. Too many damn Bush's! If Jeb should ever run and win, we'll look like England. One family Monarchy.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

156. Daddy was just as bad as W. --

when it came to killing brown people.

[DutchLiberal]

309. Poppy Bush was much worse than W.

He was the brain behind Reagan, the true worst president ever.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

147. "...it's lived as people."

Unless you were a victim of GHWB's policies in the Latin American, then there was a fucking good chance you didn't get the chance to continue living as anything.

How old are you? I sincerely hope the problem is that you are just to young to have memories of all the damage done by this "honoree".

[donco6]

178. Wow.

If nothing else, DU is always a source of surprise and amazement.

[Bluebear]

226. Now you're a fan of Poppy Bush? Wow.

[TBF]

249. A portion of our party has been taken over by some extremely conservative

Obama supporters. When Bush was in office everyone was anti-war, but now that it is a democrat suddenly war is fashionable. It is beyond repulsive.

[YOY]

264. and of course they are "the real Democrats"

n/t

[Bluebear]

283. You said it. nt

[YOY]

262. Well rounded treasonous fuckwads!

Psst...Google "Iran Contra Scandal".

[yurbud]

6. ...and Jeffrey Dahmer the Presidential Medal of Vegetarianism

[hedgehog]

7. I think a lot of Americans (a majority?) really don't follow politics,

describe themselves as "moderates " (translation - I don't have an opinion) and never get past catch phrases such as "I'm against negative advertising", "I believe the parties should work together", "I believe the government should balance the budget just like my family does."

By visibly reaching out to Republicans, Obama will either

1. actually get the Republicans to the table to work together ( stop laughing!)

or

2. finally get through to the blockheads that the Republicans will never work together with Democratic officials for the good of the country.

[Poll_Blind]

12. Ok, I'm hearing you out on this one. We both know your first point is a no-go. But...

...if you're proposing that your second point has a chance of coming to fruition (even if the first doesn't), I think you also know deep-down (and maybe not so deep-down) this also doesn't stand much of a chance of actually coming to pass.

They're called "blockheads" for a reason.

PB

[hedgehog]

55. Actually, I'm looking forward to the new House of Representatives

beginning impeachment proceedings against Obama. People were pretty disgusted with Clinton when he was impeached. Granted, having office sex with a young woman may not be an impeachable offense, but it's not the most attractive activity, nor is twisting the language to attempt to deny it. However, most people are either neutral about Obama or respect him very much. I think when the Republicans attempt to impeach him, they will finally reach their bridge too far.

[Poll_Blind]

72. The question here is "What will shake Obama out of this bullshit pattern of behavior?"

I don't know what the answer is.

Someone once was very, very honest and raw about the Iraq War on DU. They took an unimaginable kind of heat for their statement. The statement went something like this:

Sometimes I feel like nothing is ever going to end this bullshit war. And so sometimes I hope that we do incur high casualties because that seems to be the only thing that's going to make people wake up to how pointless it is. I know that's wrong and I don't want anyone to die but sometimes this is what I think is the only way to wake people up.

And I could attempt to rebut your statement by either jumping on you like they did that poster, or by siding with you and thinking that's the only thing that's going to wake him up- an actual impeachment proceeding.

But neither of those sentiments would be genuine. The point here is we really don't know why the President is making the moves that he is. We don't know what his real goals are. They would certainly appear to be strongly at odds with ours.

I think the best thing we can do is start applying the same sort of pressure to Obama that the Republicans have been applying. If he responds to them, he'll likely respond to us using the same tactics.

Although I understand the sentiment behind hoping it gets worse to teach him a lesson, don't count that he'll learn that lesson.

PB

[pokercat999]

282. maybe not an attractive activity but I'll bet an enjoyable one..

nothing like a little office sex to smooth over the stress of the easiest job in the world.

I'll bet they all or almost every, modern day politician was a good person...when they were in elementary school

[jaxx]

38. I don't think the President is doing this for the republicans.

He is doing it for the country, to recognize people in all walks of life who have made a difference. The President isn't a small minded individual.

[Fumesucker]

108. Yeah, Poppy sure "made a difference" when he implemented what he once called..

"Voodoo Economics".. :eyes:

[TBF]

250. The president may not be small-minded, but he is showing us what he values by his selections.

In this case a known war criminal made the cut. "Made a difference" - is that a euphemism for "killed many brown people"?

[ixion]

56. LOL @ "getting republicans to work with dems"

Some people never learn.

[CLANG]

268. Then by that definition BO's a blockhead too!

How can a blockhead correct another blockhead when he obviously believes the same thing!!

[fascisthunter]

13. I Guess it is Fair to Say that Obama Condone's Bush's Actions

disgusting even if this is some formal political bs.

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[jaksavage]

17. Change indeed. nt

[madmax]

18. Could there be a method to this madness?

Although, the media does not portray the Prez as a reasonable man. This medal thing is no big deal, imo.


On Edit: This medal is for the old man, Poppy Bush - not DimSon.

[TBF]

252. The "medal thing is no big deal"? Poppy Bush as recipient does not disgust you?

Is today backwards day?

[ProSense]

21. Wow, people don't know the difference between "ex-President George H.W. Bush."

and George W. Bush.

Fascinating.

[madmax]

27. Louder ProSense. They can't hear you. nt

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[jonnyblitz]

32. so George H.W. Bush is a good guy now?

even more FASCINATING. :crazy:

[ProSense]

Is he George W. Bush? n/t

[TheWatcher]

43. No, he's a monster all his own.

What's next ProSense?

"Well, Stalin wasn't so bad. He's not Hitler!"

:rofl:

[The Northerner]

49. +1

[Hell Hath No Fury]

164. I would ask the peoples of Latin America --

about that one. I live in a City full of people who were victims (the lucky ones who made it out alive) of GHWB and the insane anti-left policies of that time.

[jonnyblitz]

215. you are unbelievable.

i don't know how anybody takes you seriously.

[Yeahyeah]

289. Weak.Maybe you should give it a rest.

[WinkyDink]

107. Really? Some do, and think this is crap for the birds.

[Brickbat]

113. Are you truly unaware of the terrible legacy of GHW Bush?

[Hell Hath No Fury]

165. I really wonder if we have a lot of younger people here --

wo have no memories of that time, and sure as hell don't find out about it in our history books. I hope that's what the problem is. :( :scared:

[XemaSab]

186. I was a kid during the 80's

but my family raised me to hate and fear the BFEE.

Latin America is poor today not through any natural accident but because the jackboots of the BFEE have kept them down.

[superduperfarleft]

203. I was a teenager for Bush I. Even I remember what a shithead he was. n/t

[glitch]

207. No excuse for not reading books after they leave school, especially in the Internet Age. :( nt

[jonnyblitz]

216. no, we have willfully IGNORANT loyalists who will make excuses

for any and EVERYTHING when it comes to this administration.

[EFerrari]

153. Tuesday was the 21 year anniversary of the murder of the Jesuit priests

and their housekeeper and her daughter in San Salvador. My best friend was their student at the University.

Do you seriously believe we've forgotten who George H. W. Bush is?

[donco6]

177. Uh, yeah, I do.

He is so utterly unworthy of any award of this nature as to render the entire award meaningless.

[Smashcut]

181. Wow, you really do have absolutely zero principles whatsoever.

Fascinating.

[treestar]

190. They are just assuming all Bushes must be equally guilty

A strange thing coming from so called liberals.

[superduperfarleft]

204. How old are you? Do you not remember how horrible Bush I was?

Jesus, people, politics existed before the Iraq War, you know.

[TheWatcher]

212. It appears some liberals are very, very uninformed about history.

Start with the Panama Deception.

Then study Iran Contra.

LEARN something.

[Joe Fields]

247. You really should know your history before you speak.

[walldude]

270. It is better to be thought of

a fool than to open your mouth and prove it.


You really have no clue about Poppy do you? Head of the CIA? Iran Contra? Reagan assassination attempt? Secret wars? Any of this ringing a bell?

[Lucky 13]

275. Do you have any fucking idea what you're talking about? Do you care?

GHW Bush is a monstrous criminal. Educate yourself.

[jeanpalmer]

235. There wasn't a lot of difference

maybe a matter of degree.

[Overseas]

251. Deleted. Too sad. //nt

[YOY]

263. There's something "fascinating" here all right.

n/t

[Odin2005]

293. Poppy is just as evil as his son.

[DutchLiberal]

310. We do. You just don't seem to know what an evil bastard he was...

Your fault, not ours...

[de novo]

317. I know the difference. Neither are deserving of that award.

[KoKo]

25. LOL's ....maybe this is a "coded message" to alert us Dems..

he's been taken hostage...he's down and he can't get up!

:eyes:

On second thought: Obama has an incredible sense of "Gallows Humor." (Assuming he's read "American Dynasty" by Kevin Philips)

[Poll_Blind]

31. Last press conference, I could have sworn I saw him blink out E-A-R-M-A-R-K-S in Morse code. n/t

PB

[Crowman1979]

30. Gee, I bet everyone who lived in central america during the 80's are happy with H.W.'s award.

Lest we forget his and Reagan's support for the Contras, along with other right-wing paramilitary groups.

[KoKo]

34. And that was that little bombing of Iraq displayed in full glory on CNN

that made Wolf Blitzer a STAR!

[Crowman1979]

39. You're talking about Desert Storm right?

I ask that so we don't confuse people on which Bush we're talking about.

[KoKo]

94. Absolutely..! Desert Storm where Viewers were treated to Bomb Fireworks for their Entertainment...

as the carnage was glorified by Blitzer and another reporter reporting from a hotel room in Baghdad...

It was really cool... First time we'd ever seen LIVE BOMBING on TeeVEE... Made Blitzer a star! The other reporter died before he could take advantage of his fame..

[Crowman1979]

112. Not to mention "Gulf War Syndrome" which we all know was caused by those burning oil fields.

Only our government was lobbied by the oil industry into saying that this ailment was caused by stress. BS!

[donheld]

240. And the other DU - Depleted Uranium.

[Horse with no Name]

302. It was reallllly dreamy watching the missile porn

and erotica on CNN.

[XemaSab]

64. Not to mention South America

x(

[Crowman1979]

92. +1

Thanks for that addition.

[DutchLiberal]

311. Obama is aiding and supporting the dictatorial coup government in Honduras...

So this medal comes as no surprise. I'm sure President Zelaya, living in exile in the Dominican Republic, will not be surprised to hear this.

[jaxx]

33. The following individuals will receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom:

President George H. W. Bush

Chancellor Angela Merkel

Congressman John Lewis

John H. Adams

Maya Angelou

Warren Buffett

Jasper Johns

Gerda Weissmann Klein

Dr. Tom Little (Posthumous)

Yo-Yo Ma

Sylvia Mendez

Stan Musial

Bill Russell

Jean Kennedy Smith

John J. Sweeney


Descriptive paragraphs at the link for each recipient. Some very good things done.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/11/17/president-obama-names-presidential-medal-freedom-recipients

[KoKo]

35. Warren Buffett? Warren Buffett? ...Medal of Freedom???

[jaxx]

48. Yes, he is.

Warren Buffett
Warren Buffett is an American investor, industrialist, and philanthropist. He is one of the most successful investors in the world. Often called the “legendary investor Warren Buffett,” he is the primary shareholder, Chairman and CEO of Berkshire Hathaway. Mr. Buffett has pledged that all of his shares in Berkshire Hathaway – about 99 percent of his net worth – will be given to philanthropic endeavors. He is a co-founder of The Giving Pledge, an organization that encourages wealthy Americans to devote at least 50 percent of their net worth to philanthropy.

[ProSense]

52. Obvious error

the medal should go to George Soros, who supports the President and tried to send a message to progressives to organize only to have it interpreted as "he should resign" or a call for a primary challenge.

[jaxx]

57. Maybe next time for Soros.

That will make people mad if he gets one.

[displacedvermoter]

137. Do you ever get sick of yourself?

Snarking constantly and living in an echo chamber is no way to live!

[Smashcut]

182. But it is a way to make a living

:think:

[Dr.Phool]

198. All of them.

If I'm guessing correctly who ignored is.

[durkermaker]

122. It should be automatic for anyone accumulating over 20 billion

is the spirit of the courty's true values

[XemaSab]

68. Here's what it says:

President George H. W. Bush

George Herbert Walker Bush was the 41st President of the United States. Prior to that, he was Vice President in the Reagan Administration, Director of Central Intelligence, Chief of the U.S. Liaison’s Office to the People’s Republic of China, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, and a Member of the House of Representatives from the 7th District of Texas. He served in the Navy during World War II. President Bush and President Clinton worked together to encourage aid for victims of Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and the Indian Ocean tsunami in 2004.



Somehow they leave out all the corrupt and sleazy things he did as head of the CIA.

[Historic NY]

40. Just wait until President Palin starts handing them out.!!.....

not

[slackmaster]

41. HERBERT!

[Jakes Progress]

45. For God's sake. Will the republicans love us now?

We are so worried that billo, rush, or beck might disapprove of us.

[jaxx]

50. Some might be worried, but the President isn't one of them who is.

Once again, this isn't for the pubs, it's for the country. We all need to have a little pride in the good things people do instead of putting everything down. It's easy to be negative, harder to admit not everything is wrong.

[TheWatcher]

63. What is so RIGHT about GHW Bush?

How does fellating and fawning over him help the country?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Panama_Deception


The man was a fucking monster, and that is but a small part of it.

Oh, but we just need to ignore everything, and "move on". "For The Good Of the Country."

Hell, maybe we should give one to Charles Manson eventually.

He wasn't such a bad guy after all.

I mean he MEANT well, and had strong convictions, even if his actions WERE a little misguided.

Let's not be so negative.

I have no doubt W's little trinket will be along sometime soon.

:crazy:

[Dr.Phool]

200. Manson was loved by all of his followers.

[Jakes Progress]

69. We do not agree.

I see this kind of behavior as exactly why we got "shellacked" in the last election. Courting favor with republicans is a futile and counter-producitve measure. The country isn't run like the Senate.

[RaleighNCDUer]

70. Please, tell us all what good that proto-fascist war criminal did.

Other than sign (not write, not create, not fight for) ADA legislation.

Do you not remember the 80s at all?

[Name removed]

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[The Northerner]

91. Same here

although I'm so certain it'll be good... :eyes:

[TheWatcher]

97. Even if he CAN come up with an example, no matter how laughable and irrelevant

One would think that someone would want to avoid the embarrassment and shame of actually WANTING to back up a defense of GHWB.

This should be FASCINATING.

[Poboy]

96. Ted Knight, lmao....yes, we're WAITING....

[superduperfarleft]

273. Read this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9587084

And quit embarrassing yourself.

[on point]

58. Totally Obama discretion to award a war criminal this honor - disgusting

George Bush, admitted war criminal and torturer, will receive this honor which is totally at the discretion of Obama. If true, then Obama deserves never to be elected again. This is not something he can claim he was forced to do by the repukes, there is no cover story for this other than Obama has no regard for what is right, just and legal.

Absolutely and completely disgusting.

[countingbluecars]

61. Wrong Bush. n/t

[jaxx]

65. One more time. This is GHWB....not GWB.

Father, not son.

[XemaSab]

77. Like GHW isn't a war criminal

x(

[jaxx]

85. Everybody has an opinion.

I've yet to hear about the perfect war.

[XemaSab]

89. Operation Condor was far from a perfect war

:(

[Individualist]

84. Pappy is as much of a war criminal as his deviant son.

[The Northerner]

93. Exactly!

I think more people need to read more about the atrocious foreign policies which GHWB pursued during his presidency.

[jeanpalmer]

238. And Pappy only had four years

to inflict the damage. He could have exceeded W if given another four.

[TheWatcher]

110. Makes you wonder if he really Wanted to give it to W, but decided this was the "safer" move.

But then again, we must follow and honor the order of seniority.

After all, we wouldn't have had the Monster of 43, if not for the Abomination that was 41.

[Safetykitten]

59. Great move by our President. It shows that he will go the extra mile and it will help us...

in the long run, He knows exactly what he is doing to succeed.

[TheWatcher]

104. How is this going the extra mile, and how EXACTLY will it help the country?

Please tell me this is sarcasm.

[donco6]

176. *snorting milk through nose*

You almost had me there.

[Dr.Phool]

202. Next on the list, Jeffrey Dahmer, for Culinary Innovation.

He killed fewer innocent people than Poppy.

[Binka]

266. SafetyKitten Is Concerned

Very. Very. Concerned.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

60. excuse me, but...... I need to throwup...

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[Democat]

62. I thought Obama was busy promoting his childrens book?

Looks like he took time out of his busy schedule to kiss more Republican ass.

[jaxx]

67. LOL can't say anything good about any of the recipients?

[Poll_Blind]

76. What a falsehood you push. As though this outrage was over Yo-Yo Ma.

That's just a crock.

PB

[Dinger]

66. Obama/bu$h 2012

WTF?

[Richard D]

73. While I'm disgusted by the idea . . .

. . . I sort of can't wait to see the reperv heads exploding at having to praise Obama for something.

[Poll_Blind]

80. When was the last time they ever did that, though? I mean, the closest I've....

...ever seen them get is "He was forced into it."

PB

[BlueIris]

75. Of course.

They're brothers in arms (in more ways than one.)

[leeroysphitz]

83. so does this mean that an independant war crimes tribunal is off the table?

[Safetykitten]

86. We can't focus on the past. That's over. We have the future to take care of.

[Individualist]

109. Tell that to the victims' families.

[EFerrari]

118. By the same logic, we should shut down every court in the country. n/t

[spanone]

126. i wonder why germany didn't think of that after ww2 ?

america is plenty capable of multi-tasking

[TheWatcher]

144. You know, you're right. That's why Nuremberg was SO misguided and inconvenient.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

170. Obama, is that you???

Goo d lord, not "focusing on the past" is how we fucking got in this mess. If we had prosecuted the damned criminals when it happened, we would not have had a GWB or a VP Dick Cheney. :crazy:

[Bluebear]

229. ++++++++++

[superduperfarleft]

205. You're not nearly as clever as you think you are. n/t

[leeroysphitz]

208. When I read your reply I assumed you were being sarcastic. Is that not the case?

[YOY]

265. I'm capable of considering on the past, present, and future simultaneously.

Dunno about your personal capabilities and shortcomings.

[deaniac21]

87. The BFEE has far reaching power. Octafish, please chime in!

[Octafish]

259. America's Caligula doesn't deserve anything more than life imprisonment at hard labor.

The guy's a traitor, warmonger, mass-murderer, gangster, thief and liar. And that's the short version.

Thank you for remembering my interest in the truth about this fellah, deaniac21. Now who won World War II, again?

[deaniac21]

278. China

[NoodleyAppendage]

88. HOPE. CHANGE. Remember the Populist Progressive LIE we were sold in 2008?

I suspect this is why many are disillusioned with Obama. He ran on a platform that suggested that he would be transformational and FDResque, but many (me included) feel robbed of this vision. The 2008 election populist progressive rhetoric was a LIE. Giving "Poppy" Bush a medal is just another nail in the coffin of Obama's shadow of his 2008 election self.

J

[Poll_Blind]

90. Use the Left to win the Presidency, surf the Center into a second term.

If anyone can come up with a better explanation for his behavior so far, I'd love to hear it.

The problem is, somewhere between hopping from the lily pad of the Left to the lily pad of the Center, he fell in the muck and now both sides are suspicious of his motives.

PB

[Safetykitten]

101. That's hardly the case. He was a pragmatic centrist from the get go. You just are projecting.

[TheWatcher]

103. And Don't forget, "You never loved him to begin with."

:rofl:

[EFerrari]

171. It's just one Medal of Freedom!

lol

[NoodleyAppendage]

276. It may be he is a pragmatic centrist, but that's NOT what the public was sold in 2008

I'm not arguing that he's a centrist at heart; only that the 2008 populist message is in discordance with his true self and now that discrepancy has come to bite them on the electorial ass.

J

[readmoreoften]

194. Use the Left to win the Presidency, surf the Right into a second term.

Reaganomics aren't exactly the center.

[DutchLiberal]

312. He ran as a moderate. The lefties just projected 'change' onto him...

[theHandpuppet]

99. Please tell me this is a joke

Because the Medal of Freedom has become one.

:puke:

[Poll_Blind]

100. Sadly, here is a link to the official White House press release.

Here.

:cry:

So fucked up.

PB

[WinkyDink]

102. Head of the CIA. Sired Dubya. Friend to Hinckleys and binLadens. Have a Medal! The Republicans will

just laugh.

[durkermaker]

135. it's amazing what you can do in plain sight

in a brainwashed population

[MadHound]

105. And the souls of thousands of murder victims wail and moan as their executioner is honored

Let's not forget what this man did during his presidency, but what he did before he reached there as well. Iran-Contra, Nicaragua, Eastern Europe, the US, the man left a trail of blood and tears wherever he went. And now Bush is honored for his crimes. :puke:

[mindfulNJ]

106. wow

seriously????:puke:

[TheWatcher]

111. “The decisions of governing are on another President’s desk, and he deserves to make them without

criticism from me.”

Well, since he continued your Wars (and has designs on expanding one of them), your Fake War On Terror, and kept all of your legislation, foundation, and structure of The Orwellian Police State you and your criminal cabal worked so hard to put in place, and completely let you get off scot free with War Crimes, as well as all the other crimes you committed, what's not to like, O' Giggling Murderer?

[durkermaker]

114. is it racist to criticize this?

or will it be accepted that this is actually a bad idea?

[countingbluecars]

116. Say what??

[nc4bo]

120. I'm so done. Done. nt

[durkermaker]

121. Bush Sr Initiates Obama as first African American Skull and Bones Member

it's a big honor, and an important milestone

[durkermaker]

124. After 3 years of blaming everything on 'George Bush', this is a real hoot

hope he remembers not to blame george bush for everything in the ceremony speech

[countingbluecars]

130. Wrong Bush.

And George W. Bush deserves the blame and much more.

[durkermaker]

132. oh right....totally different family!

LOL

even Reagan is turning over in his grave today

[countingbluecars]

134. So what has Obama

blamed Bush senior for over these past three years?

[durkermaker]

141. Bush Sr is the lynchpin of the 1980-2008 Bush/Reagan era

an era that hauled our national balance sheet, the middle and working classes, our credibility and our economy to the dumpster

you either get that

or you dont

[countingbluecars]

I was simply questioning

your statement about Obama blaming everything on Bush over the past three years. That's what you wrote. Also could you please provide links for the quotes you keep posting.

[durkermaker]

151. Obama has constantly referenced 'what I inherited', when he gets blamed

and as far as the quotes I have made, I think it's pretty obvious which ones are a JOKE

[countingbluecars]

161. I guess I don't find making up

ugly quotes very funny. Your post asking if it is racist to question Obama on this is not very amusing either.

[durkermaker]

168. if now isnt a time for 'gallows humor', when would it be?

it's a coping mechanism

[StevieM]

218. I disagree. Ronald Reagan is the one who established the policies of 81-93 and then Bush Jr.

returned us to those policies in 2001. Reagan was the one who defined those eras IMO.

[neverforget]

237. Bush Sr was President from 89-93

[DutchLiberal]

313. Reagan was just a strawman. (Like Junior was Cheney's puppet)

Poppy Bush made the policies.

[librechik]

125. Oh, and while you're at it, can you arrest him for war crimes in Iran Contra?

just asking.

[durkermaker]

129. shhhhhh, you're not suppossed to talk about that

and you're suppossed to have forgotten it

sleep!

Q: you know how W knew Iran had WMD?

A: his dad had the receipts

[KoKo]

297. Yes...Poppy often get's a pass in the MSM... I guess because he was between EVILS.

lol's

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

128. How....sweet. A nice bipartisan hug for a hardworking ...thug.

[durkermaker]

133. Obama: "Bush Sr is 1001th point of light" LOL!!! nt

[KoKo]

142. Between that and giving medal to Buffett..maybe Obama just doesn't know that

much about either of them or their history. I guess it's possible that he never was that interested in the Bush family growing up and maybe didn't know anything more about Buffett than when he got handed the financial crisis on a dirty platter to fix and Warren showed up. Maybe he relies on other people to recommend to him those he should award or put into positions power. That's kind of scary in a way. That he leaves it to others to make choices and that his own Party doesn't steer him in a better direction.

It's hard to know what to make of this.

[nc4bo]

145. It's either that or we've been hoodwinked/bamboozled by a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Time will tell, it always does.

The alternative to ignorance is equally horrifying.

[durkermaker]

149. you know, it's kind of expected that you check someone's history, before you give them a medal of

freedom

'is he a good guy?' should be on the checklist

[KoKo]

159. Here's some on Buffett and the medal...

(BTW: Buffet's "Bershire Hathaway" was heavily involved in companies that got the Bailouts.)

---------------


* imperative AP

– Wed Nov 17, 3:22 pm ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Barack Obama will name billionaire Warren Buffett one of fifteen winners of the 2010 Medal of Freedom, a White House official said on Wednesday.

Buffett, one of the world's most successful investors who has donated a vast chunk of his fortune to charity, will receive the medal at a White House ceremony early next year. The award is the highest U.S. civilian honor.

Chairman and chief executive of Berkshire Hathaway Inc, Buffett unexpectedly announced in 2006 that he would give away the bulk of his fortune, worth about $40 billion, mostly to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

Buffett is one of Obama's closest defenders in the business community and the president has sought his counsel dating back to the 2008 presidential campaign and since.

In a letter published on Wednesday by the New York Times, Buffett praised Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, former President George W. Bush and other government officials for leading efforts to bail out the economy during the financial crisis two years ago.

He said the government's decision to buy up assets many investors considered to be toxic had helped pull back the economy from the brink of collapse.

Buffett said that all corporate America's dominoes were lined up and were ready to topple in the aftermath of Lehman Brothers bankruptcy in September 2008.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101117/us_nm/us_obama_buffet

[asdjrocky]

136. Fuck this fucking shit.

I have nothing left but contempt.

[durkermaker]

138. Bush Sr "Obama is a breakthrough for MK-ULTRA program"

"i always had faith in that program'

[truebrit71]

139. Iran Contra/October Surprise/ First gulf war...

...and he gets a FUCKING MEDAL????

Howard Dean 2012

[durkermaker]

146. ever wonder if the last 30 years is a diabolocal plan by Nixon, to make himself look good

in history?

[leftstreet]

152. LOL

good question!

[EFerrari]

157. Nixon was bankrolled by Prescott Bush.

[durkermaker]

166. the body language in that pic says it all

looks like a young 'wiseguy' getting 'made'

[EFerrari]

173. Yup. It looks like an outtake from The Godfather. n/t

[ruggerson]

221. rofl

n/t

[durkermaker]

222. the most important lesson Nixon ever learned was

be carefull what you ask for

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFEhmF-cSi8&feature=related

[grahamhgreen]

154. Now, he's a Bushie!

[nc4bo]

160. In all truth and honesty, aren't they all related any way? nt

[durkermaker]

162. now he's in the club

nixon and prescott bush



nixon and geroge bush



bush father and son



http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Obama+Holds+Forum+Community+Service+Hosted+nT9ls9ncF-Dl.jpg

[DainBramaged]

155. And people wonder why we think he's detached from reality

Now I am concerned.

[Owl]

244. +1

[Owl]

158. WTF?! Why?????

[librechik]

169. Everybody should read "Family of Secrets" by Russ Baker, the true story of the Bushes

http://www.familyofsecrets.com/

To find out how unearned this award is and how evil the Bush family truly is



now out in paperback

[KoKo]

196. And..Kevin Philips "American Dynasty"..here's Bill Moyers Interview with him re book..

Bill Moyers Interviews Kevin Phillips. - PBS
Apr 9, 2004 ... KEVIN PHILLIPS: All the examples of the Bush family's role in the ... but a dynasty is a dynasty is a dynasty and these problems are there ...
www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_phillips.html

[Tatiana]

174. Ask any latin american whether the director of "El CIA" deserves a medal of "freedom."

UGH.

This makes me ill. There is no way to justify a DEMOCRAT who should KNOW BETTER awarding the Presidential Medal of Freedom to a war criminal like H.W. "Pappy" Bush.

Revolting.

And will this garner Republican or even independent support or praise? HELL NO! Because they hate this President, they will always hate this President, and clearly this President would rather spend his time begging for the support of morons than to embrace those who got him to where he is.

[durkermaker]

175. Maybe Obama can get an honerary doctorate from the School of the Americas

if bush sr puts in the good word

reciprocity is the key to every relationship

[jonnyblitz]

211. Wes Clark has some pull at his beloved "school of the americas"

perhaps he can help hook Obama up with that as well.

[truedelphi]

288. But a great many in the "Democratic Party"

Are only pretending to be that. They'd never pass the FDR test.

In a Banana Republic, there is only the Money Party.

[timtom]

179. Now, that! That is one helluva game of chess.

Very multi-dimensional, indeed.

[lumberjack_jeff]

184. It only seems puzzling to outsiders.

Once you realize that he didn't understand which side he was supposed to be playing, the world makes more sense.

[Orsino]

183. Thanking the man for not having any more children for several decades now.

Such discipline ought to be rewarded.

[mike_c]

187. the "medal of freedom" means absolutely nothing now....

Poppy bush is the architect of Iran/Contra. He is the butcher of Panama. The REAL butcher of Panama. The ex-director of el CIA, the most corrupt and dirty bunch of shadow operators and bottom feeders to kill brown people by the hundreds of thousands to make the world safe for American corporate profits.

Medal of Freedom? Pfft. It means nothing now. Not if criminals like Poppy Bush get one for their crimes.

[durkermaker]

189. they both probably think the other cheapens it - LOL

and to a certain extent, they're both right

[lovuian]

188. Obama is a New World Order man all the way

I would worry if Bush kisses Obama at ceremony

[girl gone mad]

306. Exactly.

[diane in sf]

191. sick!

[durkermaker]

192. Any time someone sells you lofty generalities, but is vague on specifics

they're conning you

always

[Beacool]

193. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.................

"President Obama said, “These outstanding honorees come from a broad range of backgrounds and they’ve excelled in a broad range of fields, but all of them have lived extraordinary lives that have inspired us, enriched our culture, and made our country and our world a better place. I look forward to awarding them this honor.”

The following individuals will receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom:

President George H. W. Bush
George Herbert Walker Bush was the 41st President of the United States. Prior to that, he was Vice President in the Reagan Administration, Director of Central Intelligence, Chief of the U.S. Liaison’s Office to the People’s Republic of China, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, and a Member of the House of Representatives from the 7th District of Texas. He served in the Navy during World War II. President Bush and President Clinton worked together to encourage aid for victims of Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and the Indian Ocean tsunami in 2004."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/11/17/president-obama-names-presidential-medal-freedom-recipients


He mentions Bill Clinton, who has worked tirelessly throughout the globe with his foundation, and he gives the award to Poppy Bush????? Just as undeserved as the Nobel Peace Prize that Obama received weeks after being inaugurated.

I give up...........

:wow:

[Ramulux]

195. Obama is a fucking shill

Obama never meant the things he said during the campaign. Someone who could decide to give an award like this to George Bush was never on our side to begin with. People on this site need to open their fucking eyes, he is selling us out and destroying the democratic brand. Seriously, Obama is supposed to be a "democratic" president, awarding republican pieces of shit who empirically committed war crimes is fucking sick and an embarrassment to every democrat in this country. Can you imagine George W. Bush giving Jimmy Carter this award, the republicans would lose their shit, but Obama gives one to Bush and democrats are just expected to shut up and take it.

Obama might as well be giving a speech where he tells his base that we need to be more demoralized and need to be less active in the political process.

[jaxx]

209. Oh that would be wrong too.

Face it, some people just plain hate President Obama. He doesn't read the speeches they write for him and he doesn't kick people in the teeth like he's supposed to. He's just not going to play the games and after 8 years of dubya people only respond to games. This is change....I like it.

[Bluebear]

227. 'Face it, some people just plain hate President Obama.' - lol

[Lucky 13]

277. Change we can believe in: Honoring war criminals.

I don't hate Obama. I voted for the man. I campaigned for him. I gave him my money.

But to give this murderer a medal of freedom is DISGUSTING. And the fact that you will defend that choice shows who you really are. And it's sickening and pathetic

Go educate yourself on what Poppy did in El Salvador. And the rest of Latin America. And Iraq. And Iran.

[girl gone mad]

307. He does kick people in the teeth.

This award is a perfect example of that.

GHWB represents everything that is wrong with the right wing of this country. Awarding him the Medal of Freedom is nothing if not a kick in the teeth to our countrymen who really work for freedom with dignity and courage.

[AmandaMae]

197. this is outrageous! he should be going to prison, not getting awards!

[xiamiam]

199. this is a joke, right?

[glitch]

206. Unfuckingbelievable. Maybe he should go piss on JFK's grave while he's at it.

Read Russ Baker's "Family of Secrets" if you don't get why I said that.
:thumbsdown:

[Bucky]

213. "Maybe NOW they'll like me!"

"I surrender!"                                                                     "All I said was 'good morning,' sir."

[KoKo]

223. How do we understand that both Ted Kennedy and Caroline Kennedy (her JFK Legacy) Supported Him

which caused folks like ME to Support him?

Were we SUCKERED? were the KENNEDY'S SUCKERED? How could any of us have been SOoooo SUCKERED?

Or, was this just something that HAD TO BE so that we could FINALLY RENEW DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA?

You have to be a "bit spiritual" to understand what I'm saying.

But, Pump it Up and then CRASH IT DOWN...and REBUILD AND NEW AND BETTER SYSTEM?

OR....ANARCHY/FASCISM RULE...for a TIME...Until a NEW GROUP COMES IN?

It's been the way of HISTORY. I'm very sorry to live in "Interesting TIMES." I didn't think I signed up for this stuff when I was born! I was so WRONG.. :-( SO WRONG.. One isn't ALLOWED TO CHOSE ONE'S DESTINY... One is CHOSEN.... It's a terrible responsibility...it is heartbreaking.

[Beacool]

231. You may have been suckered, not me.

As for Teddy, he used the endorsement as an opportunity to stick it to the Clintons. Caroline was probably sincere, though.

:shrug:

[KoKo]

232. Caroline would have been a true believer, but Teddy figured

"crash and burn it?" That's a little OTT. What if both of them were naive?

Or if what you say is true then we are in some big problems. Actually, both ways.

[Beacool]

234. Teddy did it on purpose.

He not only endorsed Obama and criticized Bill while doing it, but he also announced it on the morning of Bush's last State of the Union. He had full knowledge that it is the one day when the entire Congress convenes and when millions of people are watching it on TV. He wanted to further twist the knife and humiliate Hillary, but she wore bright red and held her head high. Biden was great to her that night, he sat next to her and made her laugh. So, may Teddy rest in peace, but he too can go screw himself.

x(

[Bucky]

246. Your bitterness is silly.

Politicians fight & squabble & maneuver around each other all the time. Kennedy & Clinton respected each other as allies & adversaries in the game. Hanging onto grudges isn't the right way to play it... and that's why Clinton is happily & successfully staying on as an indispensable player in the Obama administration. When the game is over, they're still there to serve the country.

My gripe is with Obama being too conciliatory. But I don't want him or her being so competitive & contentious that they can't get over past competitions. That would help the Republicans even more than trying to compromise with those closet royalists.

[Beacool]

258. The anger is that the PTB behind the scenes did enough arm twisting to get him the nomination.

Ironic, considering that the one star in Obama's administration proved to be Hillary. Ask around, what she has done at State and the level of respect that most world leaders have for her knowledge of the issues. Hillary not being president is our loss far more than hers.

;-)

[Liquorice]

284. I see things the same way. nt

[1monster]

217. That is THE example of the decade (century?) of IRONY.

On Edit: Just realized that it is George Herbert Walker Bush. Not quite as much irony as it would have been if it had been George Walker Bush, but still really up there in the ironic department.

[KoKo]

224. That is THE example of the decade ...KARMIC?

Kind of a "Spiritual View...Philosophical View" there?

Yeah...I agree..

[Raine]

225. Well he gave one to Sandra Day O'Connor too

so this should come as no suprise but still :puke:

[TBF]

254. Sandra Day O'Connor was the first female justice of the Supreme Court -

and quite moderate in hindsite. She also is NOT responsible for the death of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of people.

There is no comparison.

[Horse with no Name]

303. She was my hero when I graduated from High School

But her vote helped screw this country into oblivion when the SCOTUS stole the presidency and gave it to dubya.
She is responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands and instrumental in starting an illegal war or two...Al Gore would have NEVER illegally attacked Iraq.
I abhor her. I hope she rots in hell for her part in this charade.

[asdjrocky]

228. Lol! This is like someone giving Obama the Nobel Peace Prize-

Oh, never mind.

[jonnyblitz]

236. that was truly SICKENING. nt

[asdjrocky]

280. The prize or my comment? nt

[somone]

230. Hey, anything to ride with Papa Bush

[KoKo]

233. That was quite a view..when it was posted here the first time.

I wonder how much of a difference they've made in Haiti with all that money folks gave?

Now, it's Cholera...but I don't see photos of them down there walking amongst the throngs of homeless, suffering and sick.

I don't see that those people even have enough tents to cover themselves for months now. And, what about that effort to give them the "shipping crates" that we no longer need to ship goods from China to here now that the "deleveraging" in our American Economy is going on.

There was much news about us giving the Haitians the "shipping crates" to turn into shelter awhile back.

:shrug: Where are Poppy and Clinton?

[EFerrari]

239. Haiti hasn't gotten a dime but Monsanto was down there pretty quick

trying to rope them into buying their cr@p. Even with everything else they were dealing with, the people took to the streets.

[burrowowl]

241. Oh!

:puke: :puke: :puke:

When is Obama going to get backbone instead of being a wishy-washy jelly fish.
Does the Man have any idea fo history!?

[jeanpalmer]

242. He never stops thinking

of ways to piss off his base.

[Renew Deal]

243. Maybe "his base" is permanently pissed off no matter what he does?

Actually, no. 13% of Democrats that hate Obama are not "his base."

[TBF]

255. Are you actually justifying this repulsive award? nt

[Renew Deal]

257. I honestly don't care.

It's become a tradition. Every president from JFK to Reagan has gotten it except Nixon. It didn't make sense for Clinton to give it to Bush 1. It would have been inappropriate for Bush 2 to do it. Bush 1 is an old man now. It's better to give it to him while he's alive. I also think it's part of a plan for Obama to give it to Clinton. Obama has to take care of Bush first.

I just wonder if a president will be willing to give it to Bush 2. I'm sure some republican will do it some day.

[Lucky 13]

279. Progressives are not his base.

This is not what you do to please your base. That's what you do to tell a group of suckers to fuck off.

Message received.
Loud and clear.

[Bluebear]

300. +

[MrScorpio]

245. GHWB's lies and war crimes promoted and confirmed my unabashed liberalism twenty years ago

Without him, none of us would be on this site.

Besides, he gave us the gift that kept on giving, in Junior.


I guess that's something to be thankful for.

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

253. That's what it is to be "One of the boys".

[TBF]

256. Is this a story from the Onion? nt

[YOY]

261. Well that is TOTALLY why I elected Obama: I really loved the Iran Contra Scandal!

Like a good Reagan Democrat...emulating RW policies...and getting called a 'socialist' for it!

[earth mom]

267. Disgusting!

:puke:

[CLANG]

269. This stinks.

[DireStrike]

271. LOL

It's like he's TRYING to get people to realize how ridiculous this all is.

[Lucky 13]

274. The people defending this choice are almost as monstrous as the monster receiving the award

If you can't recognize this as, AT BEST, a mistake by Obama then you have proven that no matter what happens, you will never find fault with him.

[Independem]

281. $6.2 Billion USS George H.W. Bush (CVN-77)

$6.2 Billion USS George H.W. Bush (CVN-77)

USS George H.W. Bush (CVN-77) is the tenth and final Nimitz-class supercarrier of the United States Navy.<1> She is named for the 41st President of the United States George H. W. Bush, who was a naval aviator during World War II. Bush's callsign is Avenger, after the TBM Avenger aircraft flown by then-Lieutenant George Bush in WWII. Construction began in 2001 by the Northrop Grumman Newport News shipyard, at a cost of $6.2 billion<2> and was completed in 2009. She is homeported at Naval Station Norfolk, Virginia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_George_H.W._Bush_(CVN-77)

Contracts for ships to toothbrushes for the military, that’s how you get $500 Million in donations for a library. I have been looking for years to find out how much the old man is worth but no luck. The inheritance tax cuts was worth billions for the Wal-Mart family, I wonder how much JR. will get?

[Jamastiene]

285. Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

:puke:

[truedelphi]

286. The feeling has become less over the last few weeks, as I have given up even thinking

About the larger political picture. So believe me, I hear you.

It's just too difficult to realize what this nation is going to face, on account of so many people electing a poltician when we needed a truly great statesman.

[Horse with no Name]

304. Truer words never spoken.n/t

[truedelphi]

305. Hi there. Horse with no name.

Long time, no see.

Here is a toast to you

:toast:

[Horse with no Name]

315. Hi true.

Thanks for that.
I come in, but the problem is, generally the first post I read makes me so ill that I log out again.
I'm not believing the mess we are in and do realize that it will get worse. Much worse.
Not really sure that this train going over the cliff can be stopped.
I do know that Obama had a historical opportunity to help the working class and poor.
He chose not to...but instead attempted to be "bipartisan".
I will reiterate what I have said from the beginning.
Obama would have made a FABULOUS Indy candidate. He would have won as an Indy.
As a Democrat, he has compromised our entire platform of social responsibility and shifted the entire party to republican-lite.
I'm not liking that. At all.
Toast backatcha.
:toast:

[Lucian]

287. Obama went down a lot now in my book.

Why would anyone give GHWB a Presidential Medal of Freedom???

[Ichingcarpenter]

290. This is a major sellout/copout... the award is already compromised

after Bush juniors handing it out to war criminals.

THE POWERS THAT BE.....

[Odin2005]

292. It's official: OBAMA SUPPORTS FASCIST WAR CRIMINALS.

That's it, I'm finished with him. Obama will never get my vote again.

[Shining Jack]

295. Meanwhile in Poppy Bush's basement:

"Huh huh huh hey Beavis, that medal prank is like so cool!"

[Horse with no Name]

301. Can we quit pretending he is a Democrat now? n/t

[DutchLiberal]

308. People are really surprised by this? They all cover up for each other...

Obama has already professed his great admiration for Reagan, remember? They're all friends, people. Just look how the Clintons and the Bushes always get cozy. Ford pardoned Nixon; Clinton refused to investigate Reagan and Papa Bush; Obama won't investigate Bush Junior. You've seen that hug between Bush and Obama before W. left with is helicopter on Inauguration Day? That's not politeness. They're all part of the same circle. They cover each other up. They are not interested in doing good; they're all in it for the power.

[DutchLiberal]

314. "We got a kinder, gentler machine gun hand"

Neil Young, Rockin' in the free world

[mdmc]

316. ..