Isn't the argument, "How many jobs did Bush create with the tax cut for the wealthy?"

[Frustratedlady]

a good argument to throw up to my Congresscritter? He had an article in this morning's paper about supporting the extension of the tax cut for the wealthy and I am going to send a protest this morning. Being a millionaire, himself, I feel this is self-interest as much as following his party's wishes.

If my comment is correct, perhaps we should all write our Pug Congresscritters and ask them for an answer?

Just sayin'.

[HughBeaumont]

1. You could show him these charts while presenting . . .

Speaks VOLUMES for the success of "Let Do", don't it? Note the two grey recessions during the Failure Fratster's "presidency". Note in chart #4, the three worst periods of job growth percentage were low-taxes-on-the-rich Laissez-fail economies. Hmmmmmmmm, which party was predominantly in control then?

Trickle down? More like Trickle ON . . .

[Frustratedlady]

9. Thank you! I will definitely include the charts. eom

[Frustratedlady]

19. I tried, but they don't accept attachments and I didn't think I could copy/paste.

I mentioned them and said I was sure he'd seen them...not pretty.

I also pointed out that my 10 grandchildren are asking a lot of questions about what is going on in Congress, as they see all the childish games being played, but are too busy to follow the news. They know I do, so they use me as their crib. The Repugs wouldn't be happy about my version of today's events.

He always answers my emails, although it often takes 3 months and I forget what I asked, but I will be watching for this answer...and I'll remember.

[HughBeaumont]

20. Try copying and pasting the individual links instead.

If attachments won't go, they should have nothing against plain ol' linking.

[Frustratedlady]

25. I copied the properties for one, but it didn't go through...bad link.

If you had the links for all those charts, it wouldn't hurt for DUrs to circulate them around the right side of the aisles, would it? Could you post them in a new post and make that suggestion...kind of a reminder to the Repugs of days gone by?

Just sayin'.

[Poboy]

2. Not only is it a good argument, it should be HAMMERED by

our side. Who the fuck is in charge of our messaging? Whoever it is, THEY SUCK ASS!

[veganlush]

3. exactly. how frustrating.

[tibbiit]

10. I am frustrated by the lack of this message

Why they arent hammering this every chance they get is a puzzler.
This IS the argument.
tib

[Dr.Phool]

12. You mistakenly think they don't know this.

They know it. They don't care.

They want to protect the rich people's portion of the pie. That's all they care about.

No logical argument will dissuade them. They're playing excuses and PR. Nothing else.

Protecting their masters.

[treestar]

22. Of course they ARE doing that

And the media pays not attention.

this messaging thing is the latest - no sale, because the M$M does all it can to crowd out that message.

So help, instead of hindering, by spreading that news.

[Poboy]

27. They aren't. Look at how the R's apply their talking points, then compare.

There is a world of difference in both style and tactic.

I should also note, one is effective, the other is a complete and devistating FAILURE.

[leveymg]

4. Millions. But, they're all in China.

The primary result of Bush Administration tax policy was to facilitate and publicly finance the offshoring (and demolition) of American industry, and to bankrupt the United States.

Mission Accomplished.

[veganlush]

5. remember, the repugnants alway say that the stimulus

which included 282 billion in tax CUTS, created NO JOBS. They say it all the time. So they're saying that the biggest tax CUT in American history created ZERO jobs. I'd like to hear their answer for THAT one. Ain't gonna happen though because no one with a camera and a microphone is gonna ask them...

[Poboy]

7. Se, there is ANOTHER catastrophic messaging FAILURE...

Noboby knows/realizes that there was a tax cut at all, let alone 'the biggest cut in Amer. history'...so now it is impossible to respond with your simple logical retort without having to combat/debunk the opposite conventional wisdom that has been allowed to become common thought.
We have allowed that lie to take root, and the damage is done. They, once again, fail on the messaging.

[treestar]

23. Quit blaming the messaging, the post you responded to pointed

out that the M$M will not help.

WE have to do it ourselves. Not sit there and do nothing and make it worse by blaming the side the media does not favor.

[Tippy]

6. K&R....we should all write our Pug Congresscritters and ask them for an answer?

Ge6t it in writing GREAT idea

[moondust]

8. Absolutely. n/t

[raccoon]

11. Great post! And it's a good argument when Right Wingers say, "what poor person ever created a job"

or something similar.

[HughBeaumont]

17. What they don't get is if it weren't for poor people and the money they spend, there'd BE no jobs.

The poor/working/middle create jobs by buying things. All the ads/influence in the world aren't going to amount to much if they have no disposable income to spend.

Like most right-weiner statements, it's a part without a whole.

[Poboy]

24. Yes, demand creates jobs! And demand depends on consumer income.

'Job creators', what a con.

[Scuba]

13. The left is not permitted to frame the argument. n/t

[Poboy]

21. The 'left' is not 'permitted'? Or is it, they REFUSE?

Its fucking basic shit here. What gives????

[KharmaTrain]

14. It's All A Fraud...

If the past 7 years aren't proof enough, nothing is. Taxes were cut in 2003...and how many jobs have been added to the economy since? But the corporate media blames it all on President Obama and Democrats as the GOTB once again gets to revise history.

What did this tax "cut" bring? Most states to bankruptcy since their revenues decreased as well. The "savings" didn't go back into the economy but into an overinflated stock market that kept soaring as more jobs were cut and outsourced. It was all out there for all to see, but as long as people were making money the blinders were firmly in place. When the market went bust that resulted in even more job cuts and a decrease in both retail and property taxes that made problems even worse.

The government isn't a business...it's a service agency. It provides stability that allows all to prosper and when its out of balance we see the results. Increasing taxes on those who feel it the least, can afford to pay more and use the most expensive services creates the revenue that ripples through all parts of the economy. Governments spend on their own...billions of those tax dollars end up in local pockets and the more that money circulates the more jobs its bound to create. Rushpublicans know this...why they love subsidies and have their own corporate welfare system firmly established. The sheeple don't have a clue.

[spanone]

15. that should be the argument, but reality rarely intrudes into politics

[madmom]

16. One argument I've been using is the wealthy are getting the same tax cuts everyone else gets...

up to $250,000, but they want more, why should they get more than everyone else. Most people think the wealthy get nothing, or don't make the connection that they (the wealthy) are already getting just as much as we are. Some one had a tax rate scale here a few days ago that showed the difference, I wish I had kept it.

[Frustratedlady]

18. So do I. I tried to send the charts from above, but they wouldn't let me.

Attachments have to be faxed and I don't have my printer hooked up to fax.

At least I got the email sent. We'll see what happens.

[laughingliberal]

26. While you're at it, you might mention the entire history of cutting taxes on the top.

There is no disputing we had a growing middle class pre-Reagan which has been losing ground and disappearing since we started cutting taxes for the rich. Clinton raised taxes on the rich and had more robust job growth during his 8 years. Results speak for themselves. Somehow, nobody tells the American people, though.

[Poboy]

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