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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:05 PM
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So Prince William is getting married.
Who gives a crap?

I don't get it.

We're Americans. We fought a war, actually two wars, to get rid of this royal bullshit.

Nonstop coverage of the British royals is nauseating, don't you think?

So what?

Meanwhile, back on the farm, Congress can't wait to give the American royalty another huge tax break.

What the hell is wrong with us?

Today my son got laid off. Totally unexpected. Now he and my daughter are unemployed through no fault of their own.

Jobs disappear; the British and American royal families are doing just fine.

Screw royalty. Power to the people.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:08 PM
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1. His parents upstaged my first wedding, and now Bill and Kat will probably upstage my son's
It's just not polite, I tell you!

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:08 PM
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2. I gotta say I fully echo those sentiments. (nt)
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:09 PM
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3. Is it his sister, cousin or niece?
I agree. Fuck royalty.

Divine right, my ass.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:10 PM
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4. I understand your point of view, and I'm sorry about your son.
For me, the interest in royalty is historic only...

I don't want it here, but I respect it and its traditions elsewhere.

I really don't think the wedding of Prince William and his fiancee Kate has anything to do with joblessness...



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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:38 PM
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12. True, Peggy
But taking over the US news cycle for potentially weeks does take the focus off what really matters here at home.

To be fair, football and basketball and stuff like that does the same thing, though.

Whenever millions of Americans are focused on all this extraneous crap, a Republican gets his/her wings.

Peace.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 08:00 AM
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69. No, maybe not, but with the cuts being made in the U.K...
would you like to be a Brit hearing about Waity Katie's partying and wedding dress plans when you are unemployed, under-employed, or bearing the brunt of government cuts? :(

My interest in royalty is historic as well. I just don't take to people being so shiftless and lazy, ALL the time. :)
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:10 PM
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5. Inbred leeches
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:12 PM
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6. It's just another celebrity wedding.
Not really important enough to upstage any other wedding, IMO.

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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:13 PM
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7. Sadly we have royalty here, we just call it different names. Yeah, the coverage
on it got revolting today. Like OK, so they're getting married, that's nice. And end of story, but no, the MSM will try to sensationalize every detail. Some were starting it today, like how quickly will they have a child and all. I get tired of media heads talking to media heads, and many of them thinking "they (MSM)" are the news.

I hope your son and daughter find jobs OK. What an outrageous mess has been given to the next generation.

EXACTLY! Screw royalty. Power to the people.


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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:16 PM
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8. Royals are like celebs.
They get media coverage.

Who cares either way?

People probably gossiped about nobles and temple-priests 5000 years ago too.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:01 AM
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54. tv coverage of celebs wasn't always this way.
Edited on Thu Nov-18-10 12:02 AM by Hannah Bell
particularly news coverage. there used to be a rather solid division.

there was *real* news (TV/radio/print), & there was tabloids, movie magazines, national enquirer, etc.

now there's basically only celebrity gossip with a few news items thrown in.
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EmilyKent Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:17 PM
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9. I've never understood why Americans
feel it necessary to trash the British royal family.

It's not your family, it's not even your country, it's just an item in the news.

Like a Swedish royal wedding, or a Japanese one except nobody calls them names, or makes ridiculous claims about their ancestry.
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:28 PM
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10. I don't either and I'm American.
When was the last time a Swedish or Japanese royal wedding was given this much attention or was even extensively televised about?

I know that the American media, sad and pathetic as they are, are just using this event as another distraction to keep the people from thinking about the more serious issues that will never be addressed...
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EmilyKent Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:36 PM
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11. Well people here certainly complain
about stories on white women being kidnapped, or shark attacks, instead of hard-hitting headlines all the time. I know that's frustrating, but goodness there's no need to go on an entire anti-royalty kick about a wedding. Different country, different culture.

Any day now I'm expecting to see someone complain as though 'off with his head' or 'we are not amused' was true, and happening in present-day America. I saw complaints about the 'divine right of kings' yesterday. :shrug:
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:13 PM
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29. Heh, I'm occasionally told by people here that Canada's an absolute monarchy
Imagine my surprise at learning I'd been living under such a regime all my life and never noticed, or something.
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EmilyKent Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:16 PM
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32. Really?? Even England isn't that!
Goodness you'd think we attended beheadings at the Tower all the time! :rofl:

Other than the occasional portrait in Canada, I haven't seen much 'monarchy' at all.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:24 PM
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34. Yeah, it spiked with the last couple of prorogations
Never mind that, whatever the constitutional mechanisms for those were, it was one hundred percent Harper's doing, but it led to no shortage of mocking news reports and people ranting here about how I'm clearly just a slave and need to go kill the governor-general or something. ;P

It's weird; it's usually a level of black-and-white nonthinking that I only see from libertarians, but this place can get pretty ridiculous about stuff like that as well, as you're also seeing in this thread. ;)
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EmilyKent Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:28 PM
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35. Ahh thank you.
I was wondering whatever was going on! It's like some personal grudge between here and William, and it's really nothing to do with Americans.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:56 PM
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45. I'd say it's that too, really. (nt)
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Zanzobar Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:45 PM
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14. Because Americans like to vote on stuff.
It's in their blood to have an opinion and express it.

Certainly, old world bowing and groveling to an undeserving inbred mentally deficient hick is part of the British Heritage, but Americans would rather bow and grovel to a newmonied simpleton with connections to a Hollywood actor.

It's not trashing. It's...newsy.
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EmilyKent Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:47 PM
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17. LOL hasn't changed much though I see.
World still runs the same old way.

It just astonishs me, so I thought I'd ask.
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Zanzobar Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:52 PM
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20. Yes, it hasn't changed.
It never will. I know this for a fact. You can quote me. I only request a royalty, say...10% if you can sell the idea.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:45 PM
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15. We didn't have to fight wars to gain independence from Sweden or Japan.
Talk about missing the point.

And I did not call them names or make ridiculous claims about their ancestry.

The point is that the American media is dominated by this talk to the detriment of the actual issues that need to be discussed in the media, like jobs, the economy, and the failure of US government and business community to deal with these problems.

If you wish to be entertained by the British Royal Family, go ahead.

This is far more than just a news item.
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EmilyKent Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:02 PM
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22. Well that was 2 centuries ago!
None of you were even born.

Wow, talk about holding a grudge! :rofl:

What about all the other 'distractions' on the news?

The Olympics, football, baseball, beauty pageants, volcanos, earthquakes, cholera etc?

It's all 'news' after all.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:15 PM
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31. This may come as a surprise to you, but the US and UK haven't been enemies for some time. (nt)
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:04 AM
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62. Because it's been dominating the news.
It's not like a Swedish or Japanese royal wedding because we don't hear about those.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:40 PM
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74. It is because they are scum
And they think that God has ordained them to be better than other people.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:39 PM
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13. Uh, apparently you give a crap.
:shrug:
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Zanzobar Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:47 PM
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16. And I just did!
SNL?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:48 PM
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18. To the ridiculous worship of this story by the US media, yeah, I give a crap.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:49 PM
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19. So don't make it worse.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:58 PM
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21. By discussing it?
Huh?
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EmilyKent Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:05 PM
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23. The wedding will get big ratings around the world.
Just like when Charles and Diana got married. People like a happy story now and then, it can't be all gloom and doom.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:07 PM
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24. I agree
I'm a commonwealther and the royals can fuck off.
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EmilyKent Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:09 PM
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25. Well that's pretty silly.
There wouldn't be a Commonwealth without the Royals.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:11 PM
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26. They'd like us to believe that
We can though. I just object to the intended sentiment of the idea of royalty. I'd like us to elect the head of state, or at least have the ruling party appoint one.
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EmilyKent Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:14 PM
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30. You can't elect a Queen.
Then the 'head of state' would be just another politician. The idea is to represent the country as a whole, and be above politics.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:33 PM
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38. Oh, I know, I get that
I just resent the way that person is chosen.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:12 PM
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27. It's THEATER!
nothing more, nothing less. I'm sure given their druthers, the couple would prefer a small ceremony in a small chapel with just friends and family instead of a massive cathedral full of strangers, but creating theater is how they justify their existence.
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EmilyKent Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:20 PM
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33. And it represents the nation. Continuity.
Politicians come and go, but the monarchy is the backbone of the country.

Royals actually work incredibly hard. Not a life I'd care to have, but it's how the British Empire was built.

'For God, Queen and country.'
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:37 PM
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39. You're right about that, they do work very hard
and constantly live under a magnifying glass. There's no way I'd do it, either, not that there was ever the slightest chance for it.
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:13 AM
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58. Not to Montreal
The french killed their Kings :)
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jancantor Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:58 AM
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60. I'll defer to Johnny Rotten
And note... he wasn't an American...

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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:12 PM
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28. We've Got the Circuses, now Where's the Bread?! n/t
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:31 PM
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36. I agree. It's all just bread and circuses
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:33 PM
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37. Yeah
All of the coverage of the British royals just drives me crazy.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:38 PM
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40. I watch and enjoy it

So what? Your right...who cares? I don't... I just like to watch and read the stories. Sorry If i don't live up to your standard in brooding everything.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:59 PM
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46. Me too...I love English History...
and the Monarchy plays a big part in that history.

I guess some of us are just creepy little lowlifes with nothing better to do....


;)

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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 03:38 AM
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66. I do too
I love that kind of thing plus I'm a history buff. :-)
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:40 PM
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41. There is far too much coverage of it, but I do have some interest
in royalty in general. They are fascinating from a sociological and psychological (and historically a political) viewpoint for me.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:46 PM
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42. Why do Americans care so much about the British royalty?
I'm Canadian and we don't even care that much.

The Royal Family is a tourist draw - nothing else. They have negligible political power in Britain and ZILCH in Commonwealth countries like ours.

I really don't know why Americans obsess over them.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:50 PM
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43. I don't know anyone that does, but the news media can't get enough of them
I can only surmise it's been good for ratings in the past
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:54 PM
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44. I think they're trying to capture the past magic of the Chuck-Di wedding
THAT was a spectacle.

But the Royal family really hasn't done much since.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:04 PM
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47. A lot of us really DON'T give a crap
I'm already sick of all the coverage of this non-event.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:54 PM
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49. Perfectly understandable
They're really not that relevant.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:05 AM
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56. The media does
and the wedding of the century was something to behold. Then again the economy was better... world wide and we had time for navel gazing.

These days... not so much.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:10 AM
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57. British royalty is to American foundational ideology as the Tsar was to Soviet foundational ideology
We don't like them.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:30 AM
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59. Of course not
Nor do we in Canada. I just wonder why the American media pays them so much attention.

Trying to manufacture ratings, I guess.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 08:01 AM
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70. We poor Canadians have to call Waity Katie Queen some day...
:(

Help. :)
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CrawlingChaos Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:42 PM
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48. Couldn't agree more
The media coverage of these useless parasites disgusts me. As I was saying on another thread, their very existence as "royalty" is symbolic of a class system that is the very antithesis of social justice.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:56 PM
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50. She's hot. I'd hit it.
Beyond that, I don't have an opinion one way or the other except for this: please get it over with as soon as possible so I don't have to hear about it for very long.
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AmandaMae Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:58 PM
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51. I don't get it either. The coverage is really excessive.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:00 AM
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52. The media will use it as a filler til the pre 2012 election stuff kicks in
I read somewhere yesterday that the reason the couple picked the "spring or summer 2011" timeframe was they wanted to get it done before some other huge UK national events in 2012---I think there is a Queen related celebration in 2012 (sorry UK DUer's, can't remember, think they called it a Jubilee happening in 2012?). So it was spring/summer 2011 or wait til 2013, I guess.
So the US M$M will be happy, they will have a high rating filler with the lead up to the wedding and then the wedding itself.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:10 AM
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67. Yes, the Queen's diamond jubilee (60 years) is in 2012, plus the London Olympics
I haven't heard of any plans for the diamond jubilee yet - I'd guess they'll do something rather like they did in 2002 (a sort of tour around the UK, plus some Commonwealth countries, and a few events like a pop concert at Buckingham Palace). They actually made the 25 year Silver Jubilee in 1977 more of an occasion - a public holiday, and lots of street parties, which I don't think happened much in 2002. They were a bit afraid that in 2002, being the first major royal event after Diana died, that there'd be quite a lot of bad feeling, because they thought some people still saw royalty as a 'Diana vs. Them' fight; but in fact either people ignored it, or enjoyed it, and it ended up feeling just a bit like a 'national day' celebration - which the UK doesn't actually do normally.

Ooh - just checking on that, I see we're going to get an extra holiday for the diamond jubilee. And apparently we got one in 2002, which I had totally forgotten. Ah well then, I've converted to be a fervent monarchist, then :D
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:00 AM
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53. dupe
Edited on Thu Nov-18-10 12:01 AM by rainbow4321
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:03 AM
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55. If I may... the anger at the TSA worker bees
is connected to your question.

While we blame worker bees, the french take to the streets. All this bread and circus is part of the reason... the people will not go to the streets. We are too busy hating each other, instead of developing some class solidarity to use an ancient term...

As to the British Royal Family... one of these days even them will get tired of them... but realize unlike our elites, they actually serve.

When was the last time you saw a child of a very wealthy or influential person ( I will give props to John McCain on this since his son is in the Marines) serving in the armed forces? The Prince insisted on leading his troops...even when he was told no for ahem safety reasons.

But your answer again is... while we point at workers and blame THEM instead of management... the british took to the streets last week. And it was not about the Mother Queen either... they are willing to fight. we are willing to fight each other.

Oh and good luck to your kids. This economy it more than sucks.
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jancantor Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:00 AM
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61. Well I hate to bring up Sarah Palin...
but...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:30 AM
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64. You are aware of why right?
Kid was given a get out of jail card by joining the Army. McCain's son sounds more like fuck it old man, I want to serve, not just in YOUR navy.
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:07 AM
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63. Good points Nadin
It's far too easy to rant about the imagined injustices in another country's social system and ignore the erosion of your own rights.

Not to mention the time and effort taken to post that you couldn't give a fuck. Lol, what a contradiction.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 03:24 AM
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65. Willie boy is fortunate...
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:56 AM
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68. Lots of royals get married all the time....
Edited on Thu Nov-18-10 07:56 AM by Darth_Kitten
except they just try to live like normal, regular working people. Look at the European royals, they keep to themselves.

I'm not a fan of the Windsors; the Queen, I like, because she seems like a hard-working, sincere person, but her kids and grandkids: yikes!

Prince William has always gotten a free pass from the press because he's Diana's son, but from a lot of accounts, he's just a lazy partier.
All he and Kate seemed to do was go on a lot of vacations. Must be nice.
She has yet to hold down an actual job.

Who waits 8 years for a marriage proposal? Get a life, already.


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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 08:06 AM
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71. Just ignore it then. Concentrate on what's important.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:32 PM
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72. Being British, I patriotically support
the imposition of a republic as soon as possible.

Who gives a damn except to wish them - like any other engaged couple - a long and happy life together
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:37 PM
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73. I think many of the elites in this country have always envied aristocracy
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That's why, imo, FDR calling them "economic royalists" was so fitting.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:43 PM
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75. The Lamestream media has determined that sheeple will be fascinated by this-
and they will be.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:45 PM
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76.  Do you not remember how the world "stopped" for Di's funeral?...
It is compelling to many-- public interest stories have their place in moderation (and yes, I realize this will be sensationalized as was everything about Diana when she was alive).... But, the fact is, is that many people do find it compelling for whatever reason. On a personal level, I just think there is something very human about the interest shown for a young person dying well before their time who had been so much in the public eye and going forward, what happened to the (then) young children she left behind. My interest is pretty superficial, but I do believe it is widely held.
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