RED ALERT! HR-3808 Veto Override Attempt

[German]

Source: http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=172452

They really are going to try to override the Presidential Veto tomorrow (11/17/2010)

GET ON THE PHONE TO YOUR REP AND SENATORS RIGHT NOW!

From 4closurefraud.com:

2:15 P.M. -
ONE MINUTE SPEECHES – The House proceeded with one minute speeches.

H.R. 3808:
to require any Federal or State court to recognize any notarization made by a notary public licensed by a State other than the State where the court is located when such notarization occurs in or affects interstate commerce

2:14 P.M. -
VETO MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT – The Chair laid before the House the veto message from the President on H.R. 3808. The objections of the President were spread at large upon the Journal, and the veto message was ordered to be printed as a House Document No. 111-152. Pursuant to the order of the House of earlier today, further consideration of the veto message and the bill are postponed until the legislative day of Wednesday, Nov. 17, 2010, and that on that legislative day, the House shall proceed to the constitutional question of reconsideration and dispose of such question without intervening motion.

2:13 P.M. -
The House received a message from the Clerk. Pursuant to the permission granted in Clause 2(h) of Rule II of the Rules of the U.S. House of Representatives, the Clerk transmitted H.R. 3808, the “Interstate Recognition of Notarization Act of 2010,” and a Memorandum of Disapproval thereon received from the White House on October 8, 2010, at 12:55 p.m.

Mr. Scott (VA) asked unanimous consent That, when the House adjourns on Monday, November 15, 2010, it adjourn to meet at 12:30 p.m. on Tuesday, November 16, 2010, for Morning-Hour Debate. Agreed to without objection.

Mr. Scott (VA) asked unanimous consent That, when a veto message on H.R. 3808 is laid before the House on the legislative day of today, then after the message is read and the objections of the President are spread at large upon the Journal, further consideration of the veto message and the bill shall be postponed until the legislative day of Wednesday, Nov. 17, 2010; and that on that legislative day, the House shall proceed to the constitutional question of reconsideration and dispose of such question without intervening motion. Agreed to without objection.

[redirish28]

1. Which one is this again. cant' get the link to work right.

[Hannah Bell]

4. try this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9571983

[German]

5. you mean the bill?

the link to market ticker works with me. HR 3808 is the bill that allows banks to evade the question of MERS and who actually has the note to a property by substituting a notarized statement in place of the actual mortgage paperwork.

[JDPriestly]

14. It would affect a lot of cases other than foreclosures.

H.R. 3808 is a bad idea. Each state should license its own notary publics.

[Marr]

2. Incredible.

I'll make my calls, but this is going to be very interesting to watch. Isn't it incredible how persistent and responsive the government can be when it's servicing Wall Street, instead of regular people? 'Ship of state turns slowly', my ass.

[laughingliberal]

6. Yes. Would be nice to see this kind of tenacity in passing a bill to help working stiffs. nt

[Hannah Bell]

3. kr

[Marr]

7. I don't know what this site is for if not info like this.

So, bump.

[TheKentuckian]

8. This is the exact kind of crap that calls for a vote of no confidence against the entire system.

[WillyT]

9. HUGE K & R !!!

:patriot:

:kick:

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

10. 2/3rds vote in BOTH chambers. They don't have the votes to succeed. Don't worry! n/t

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

11. 2/3rds vote in BOTH chambers. They don't have the votes to succeed. Don't worry! n/t

[Odin2005]

12. Carlin: "We aren't in the Big Club".

They are. Bastards.

[Tsiyu]

13. Kick

Kick and call


Kick and call...and so on....

[jeff47]

15. A pocket veto can't be overridden

The technical route for a bill to become law: Congress Passes a bill -> President signs bill -> bill goes back to Congress, becomes law. In normal situations, the President has 10 days (excluding Sundays) to sign or veto a bill. If he does not do either, the bill is returned to Congress as if he signed it and the bill becomes law.

Here's how a pocket veto works:
If Congress is not in session at the end of those 10 days, the bill can not be returned to Congress. So the bill can not become law. Nor was the bill vetoed, so there is no veto for Congress to override. The bill enters limbo and has no way to advance to become a law.

Congress can pass a new bill with the same contents as the old bill, but that makes it a new bill - it has to go to the President's desk again.