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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:01 PM
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Black Hingham Postal Worker Fired, Abusive White Woman Gets Away Scott-Free
Edited on Fri Nov-12-10 02:05 PM by Joanne98

Racism is Still Alive in Hingham, MA

Black USPS Worker Fired for Being Called a Nigger



I am not a socially conscious blogger and I don’t like waking up to things like this, but given the utter failure on the part of both the USPS and the Hingham, MA Police department to address this matter I thought I would. Allegedly Erika A. Winchester of Hingham, MA signed for a certified letter for her husband, Randall Winchester. After realizing the certified letter was a possible collection notice from the Rotary Club of Hingham and Hull, Erika went into a racist and socially misguided frenzy which included her physically slapping him and saying “..you fucking nigger thief.. I’m not bigoted…because you’re acting like a nigger..”, “your IQs are lower and therefore the people who need to help you, you don’t know it…” and, “You killed Martin Luther King you niggers turn on each other, you’re stupid…”.

Racists say the darndest things…

To make matter worse, the USPS worker was apparently fired over the incident and Erika did not even receive a slap on the wrist despite her hate speech, assault, and her threats made against his life.

Below you will find the event in two videos hugsonamic recorded with his mobile phone. This man deserves justice not only because he was fired for the incident but because the government failed to do its job when race was involved

Part one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnm_cSgPzmM

Part two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65aSdUMSJmY

Transcript of Part 1 of Erika Winchester’s Racism Rant:

And give me the fucking things back.

Mam. Mam I can’t

There’s a police officer who lives right there, he’s a friend of mine. Now give me the fucking thing back, I don’t want just the letter.

Please don’t do that mam. Please don’t do that.

I will, I don’t want the letter, give me the cards back.

Mam please don’t do that.

I said I don’t want the letter, give me the cards back.

Mam, you already signed for these.

If I keep it, I sign, I don’t want it.

Mam please.

It’s not for me, this is not for me, this is not for me, it’s the wrong name.

What? How can it be the wrong name?

Because this is. I do not know if it was the rotary club because of my husband this is not for me. People are addressing it to the wrong person, I don’t want it, I don’t want to legally open it, and I want it back. I don’t sign for somebody elses mail.

Mam, can you just bring it back to the office instead?

No, take it back because it’s not mine.

Mam, ah no I cannot give you this back.

Now you want the signature you fucking nigger thief. You want me to lock you up for life you asshole? Give me my shit back.

Mam…

And I’m not prejudice, but right now I’m gettin really pissed off.

Mam, but why are you calling me names? I mean, I’m just delivering your mail.

Because you’re acting like a nigger, now give me the cards back.

Alright mam, I’m gonna have to go mam, I’m sorry.

Give me the cards back.

Mam I’m sorry. Why you call me the N name?

Because you’re acting like a moron. Give me the cards back.

I can’t mam.

Call me a nigger, I don’t care.

Oh?

Give me the cards back.

Mam, I’m not gonna call you names.

Can you just give me the card back.

I can’t mam, I can’t. You verified it, and you verified that was…

If I take it I sign for it, and if I don’t take it, I don’t. And I’m gonna give it back because I don’t want it. There’s no money involved here.

Mam. Mam. Hey.

Give it back to me.

I cannot do this Mam. Mam I’m late for all the mails, I mean for all the customers, I have to deliver their mail. You’re holding me up.

The whites will kill you.

Why you wanna kill me mam?

I don’t, but they do.

Who?

The white people.

The white people?

For not doing what I need you to do right now, now please just give me back my mail.

Mam.
http://afghanant.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/black-hingham-postal-worker-fired-abusive-erika-winchester-gets-away-scott-free/

This is offensive but I'm posting it anyway because....

HE NEEDS TO GET HIS JOB BACK NOW!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:04 PM
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:10 PM
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6. You don't need to equate ignorance and bigotry with mental illness, it won't make this better
The woman's behavior was beyond the pale. She may be mentally ill. She may be intellectually challenged.
But there are many mentally ill who aren't ignorant and who aren't bigots.

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:42 PM
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17. I didn't say that
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:05 PM
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2. Racism is alive and well in MA.
How else would Scotty get elected up here?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:13 PM
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9. I moved from the south to Boston in the late 60s
I hated the racism in the south, but what I found in Boston hit me like a brick wall. The laws weren't there, but the hatred was so thick you could cut it with a knife.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:25 PM
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11. But I thought racism was only alive in the inbred, RW South.
Hm.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:37 PM
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16. Take a walk around South Boston sometime.
This is where (school) busing occurred in the 70s. Twas ugly.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 03:20 PM
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24. Yes it was ugly-----terrible times.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 07:53 PM
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45. That's why I find the comments on youtube that 'it's a liberal haven so she's
a liberal' so crazy.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:33 PM
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14. So is bigotry against the mentally ill. A mod posts just under the above
and doesn't take notice of it at all.

hmph!
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:07 PM
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3. Another example of Post-Racial America, Massachusetts-style.
Edited on Fri Nov-12-10 02:43 PM by AspenRose
People have lost their minds. On what planet is this acceptable?

Smoking Gun is on the case

http://rss.thesmokinggun.com/documents/bizarre/vile-viral-video-stars-raging-past

...as is 4Chan

Oh, and guess what else? She and her aunt are Teabaggers, surprise-surprise

"Dusky Character Attacks my Niece, Good People Get Blamed"

http://grandmagrizzly.blogspot.com/
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:08 PM
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4. What, if anything, can be done to pressure the USPS to give this man his job back?
Is there a more obvious sign that this nation is broken?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:11 PM
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7. I don't know but if you see a petition anywhere post it so we can sign.

:fistbump:
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:10 PM
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5. What was the official reason that the guy got fired?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 07:41 PM
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37. As I read the USPS, he had a temporary seasonal contract
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:13 PM
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8. holy crap
Edited on Fri Nov-12-10 02:16 PM by realisticphish
I had already read about it, but after reading that transcript, why the FUCK was he fired? He was being extremely professional in his responses in a very hostile customer service situation (which, trust me, I've been in before).

I haven't read the transcript for the second half yet, and I can't watch the video, but unless he threatens to blow down her house or something, I don't see how he could get fired

edit: just found the second half on the reddit link. Yeah, this guy should get a goddamn AWARD for maintaining his civility.

edited to add "n't"
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:13 PM
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10. This will not end well....
for Ms. Erika Winchester of Kimball Beach Road in Hingham, MA.

Address and her phone number posted in the responses on the link provided in the OP;

http://afghanant.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/black-hingham-postal-worker-fired-abusive-erika-winchester-gets-away-scott-free/

I'll bet the Postman will have his job back inside a week and she will be pilloried in her town, as she should be.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:27 PM
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12. with reddit on board
it can get loud fast. God help her if 4chan gets a hold
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:30 PM
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13. 4Chan will have her favorite brand of underwear posted.
Those guys don't screw around!
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 03:24 PM
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25. it almost makes you feel bad for her. almost.
those guys do not fuck around
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:37 PM
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15. Apparently, Ms. Winchester has a bat-shit crazy aunt who is defending her all over the internets.
Batty Aunt Bat-shit also revealed that people have been sending pizzas and strippers to her racist niece's home.
http://afghanant.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/racist-erika-winchesters-aunt-get-on-twitter-hilarity-ensues/
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:42 PM
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18. 99% sure it's satire
but maybe not :shrug:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 04:25 PM
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29. It's satire.

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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:53 PM
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21. White privilege, 1. People of color, 0.
Edited on Fri Nov-12-10 02:57 PM by political_Dem
I hope he gets his job back as well. He shouldn't have to put up with this on his job. But unfortunately, this is par for the course because simple respect and equal treatment is a thing of the past.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 03:20 PM
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23. Where class and race intersect...
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 03:50 PM
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27. The story you posted was just as horrible. And yes, you hit the nail on the head.
It further adds to the proof that some folks think they are so entitled that they use white privilege in order to escape from justice. And others, who want to keep the status quo in tact, aid and abet the perpetrators.

Both stories are a travesty and rather sickening. :(
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 08:41 PM
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40. well her words have come back to haunt her. she's all over the internet.
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toddwv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:59 PM
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22. Another article suggests that the lady got off because she was babysitting for a cop:
If this is true, things might get ugly:

http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201045/6413/U-S-postal-worker-verbally-and-physically-abused-by-racist-woman-Update

A certified postal delivery in Hingham, Mass., got ugly when, after signing for a letter, a woman decided she wanted the signature card back because the mail was addressed to her husband. When the USPS employee refused, he was subjected to a racist verbal assault that ended with a physical attack.
And what was the USPS employee's reward for remaining calm during this ordeal? He says he was fired.
All the details related to the story are presently unknown. While there are possible suspects as to the female attacker's identity, the mail carrier behind the clip has not named her. However, YouTube poster 'hugsonamic', who uploaded the two videos of the attack, has revealed he was removed from his position as a postal employee after the incident.
In a comment submitted beneath the first YouTube video, hugsonamic explains how he was waiting for the “US Postal Services to tell me why there has not been an investigation, which was the reason that I was fired.”
Adding to that, his comments attributed to the second video explain there was no trial, and that the U.S. Postal Inspection Service remained inactive. When asked why he did not simply drive away from the woman's vitriol, hugsonamic said it was unsafe to do so because she was too close to the vehicle, and at times held on to it.
He later learned that the woman in the video was the babysitter for one of the police officers who responded to the incident, but that only leaves more questions than answers in our opinion.
“I've just learned both the police department and the court have dropped the case, she is free, and no charges against her. I was never sent a noticed (sic) by the court to appear for hearing nor trial. And a year since that happened, USPS postal inspection service has not investigated this matter,” comments left by the ex-postal employee repeated.
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mailman82 Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 03:43 PM
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26. I am a Letter Carrier
I am not surprised he was fired, Postal Management does not back the carrier.At this point in time they looking to fire us for any reason! I am about to retire on Dec.31 of this year. Because of the way they are treating us, there is a lot of pressure in this job right now and I don't need it! With mi military time and my 30 years of carrying mail. I am done.
As for the carrier in Mass. I understand he has a video of this,and I am sure the Union has it by now. He may have to spend a few day off w/out pay.But he will get it back.What he need to do is get a Lawyer and this womens ass off!!!
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 03:55 PM
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28. As an ex Labor Relations guy in the P.O. I agree with you.
I'm thinking that he was probably fired for the video he took of the woman. The case will probably end up in arbitration and settled in his favor. But....that will occur if the union can, somehow, convince the arbitrator that the circumstances warranted the video.

Enjoy your retirement. I'm certainly enjoying the hell out of mine. And, I couldn't agree more about management's eagerness to get rid of the older workers so they can hire new, and cheaper, peasants. I hope you have CSRS rather than the rip-off they tried to foist on us.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 08:18 PM
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38. I'm a postal worker in a distribution center
and I can corroborate the above two posts.

Postal managers are currently in the process of breaking the American Postal Worker's Union and the other two unions. They are, in my facility, completely disregarding decisions of arbitrators' rulings in our favor. Worse, when presented with those rulings, postal managers are claiming that it's an "ongoing issue", as if that excuses their behavior. One particular situation has a couple hundred grievances attached to it in our facility alone, and those grievances are themselves reliant upon a prior arbitration ruling, unambiguous in nature and wording, which postal managers simply don't like and are therefore ignoring.

The only thing the union can do is file yet another grievance over the violation of the arbitration ruling that was reached by filing a grievance. We are unable to take the issue into court, because we are forbidden by law from doing so. The only answer is to file yet another grievance, which will be ignored if it is won.... years from now.

The process is broken, and it is completely intentional. Postal managers, in general, do not bargain in good faith, and this problem is proof of that.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 07:40 PM
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36. Read the Boston Globe link in #35 below. This happened in November 2009; the letter carrier
refused to press charges; officials who saw the video decided the woman needed to be arrested anyway; the woman threatened to castrate an arresting officer; the letter carrier declined to testify; the court unusually held the case for a year in case there were further developments; the letter carrier only had a temporary contract and has not commented further on the matter
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 05:12 PM
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30. Kicked&Recommended...
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 05:28 PM
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31. Wonder if John Kerry might intervene on this guy's behalf.
This is one of the dumbest firings I've ever heard of. Is there anything he can sue the racist bitch from hell over?
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 05:56 PM
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32. FAUX News says mail carrier refused to testify and charges will be dropped:
http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/local/woman-slaps-postal-worker-amid-racist-rant-20101112

HINGHAM (FOX 25 / MyFoxBoston.com) - A shocking video shows a woman slapping a postal worker during a racist rant outside of her home.

The incident happened nearly one year ago in Hingham.

The scuffle took place over a piece of Certified Mail that the woman had signed for, but then decided she did not want because it was addressed to her husband. The carrier could not take it back and the woman launched into a racist tirade and appeared to slap the mail carrier.

Police were made aware of the tape and charges were levied against the woman. The mail carrier has refused to testify and charges will be dropped in two weeks if he does not.

Sources tell FOX25 that the mail carrier was fired for performance issues.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What gives?
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 07:20 PM
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34. That's curious
Wonder why he won't testify.

Even if he's not totally 100% right in the situation, it doesn't appear at face value that he warranted the treatment he received.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 08:20 PM
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39. Postal managers are probably threatening him with something if he testifies.
It fits the postal manager M.O.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 08:58 PM
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42. USPS says he had a temporary contract Feb-Nov 2009. Incident occurred Oct 2009.
He declined to press charges; officials arrested her anyway; he declined to testify; court held case open a year.
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Dyler Turden Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 06:02 PM
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33. My god. I saw this video earlier and can't believe the mail carrier
was canned. He was a lot more patient than I could have ever been. Something is really wrong here.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 07:35 PM
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35. Mailman who taped Hingham woman making racist comments was not fired, official says
Posted by Metro Desk November 12, 2010 05:48 PM
By Jessica Bartlett, Globe Correspondent, and David Abel, Globe Staff

HINGHAM – A former mailman who was allegedly slapped and subjected to a racist rant by a local resident was not fired as a result of the incident, officials at the US Postal Service said today.

Police said the letter carrier, Hugson Jean, 48, of Roslindale, who apparently posted video clips of the incident on YouTube that have been watched by more than 100,000 people, ultimately decided not to press charges against the woman, whom police identified as 60-year-old Erika Winchester ...

But Christine Dugas, a spokeswoman for the US Postal Service’s Office of the Southeast New England District in Providence, said Jean was a temporary letter carrier who had been hired to work from February through November 2009.

“His length of employment with the Postal Service had absolutely nothing at all to do with this incident,” she said, adding that his supervisor contacted Hingham police after the incident. “It’s not even closely related” ...

http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/hingham/2010/11/mailman_who_taped_hingham_woma.html

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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 08:44 PM
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41. She also threatened to “chop off” the arresting police officer’s genitals
What a nut
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 08:59 PM
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43. self-delete
Edited on Fri Nov-12-10 09:00 PM by Horse with no Name
read this wrong. Apologies.
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chillspike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 07:24 PM
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44. This woman is disgusting.
Scientists will tell you the greatest achievement of mankind, the one that made all other possible, bar none, was the invention of language because it freed the human mind. It enabled humans to carry concepts (symbols) in their minds and led to writing, planning and even technological advances.

Language most certainly was developed in Africa. A development without which this woman would not be able to even speak.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 07:59 PM
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46. Kick
:kick:
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:13 PM
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47. Saw this on Huffington Post...
As someone said, "Batshit crazy".
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