The GOP is imploding. The GOP is imploding. The GOP is imploding. Ha hahahaha

[mfcorey1]

Michelle Bachman is being snubbed.
Sarah is being called every name in the book
DeMint is confused about which way he should go.
Rand Paul is flip flopping
Bush is telling all the dirt during his time in office

I love it. I love it. I love it.

[cutlassmama]

1. Good. About time. K & R

[breadandwine]

67. I wouldn't start jumping up and down just yet. Disunity seeks a scapegoat and that scapegoat is us.

The GOP will resolve its internal problems by going after Obama 24/7/365 in endless hearings leading to impeachment.


The "screw d'etat" is just beginning......

[RedCloud]

87. If we blab their talking points for another two years, hell no!

[CUTTIN HEADS]

93. ARREST THAT FUCK, BUSH...

And the rest of the lot that are responsible for the deaths of over 100,000 Iraqis...and nearly 5000 American "Draftees"..(read: Poverty Draft)...plus, the needless deaths and havoc they created "going after" Bin laden...

Prosecute them as it's plainly laid out in Vince Bugliosi's Book "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder"(ANY local prosecutor with a pair of stones can make that indictment)...and try and preserve what little dignity this country has left.

Shit, they're all sipping fucking latte's on our fucking dime, while we stew and try and sort out just what the fuck is going on in the USA...no jobs, no money, no clues...No Class ('cept the class warfare that's unfolding in front of our eyes).

Protest leads to Resistance...

[kctim]

2. Yep, the GOP is irrelevent

it will be generations before they win another election.

[glinda]

25. I am afraid we are..... hope not....

[GSLevel9]

28. I've heard that before...

maybe in November of 2008?

[kctim]

66. Yep

Even all the way up to November 2010.

[SidDithers]

3. K&R...nt

Sid

[AnArmyVeteran]

4. Recced, keeping righties together is like trying to make snakes go in straight lines.

[AlinPA]

5. Right. But they control Congress. The House by majority and the Senate by filibuster. Some

implosion.

[travelingtypist]

7. +1,000,000

Wish I could rec this reply.

[mfcorey1]

8. And? Most people I know are not afraid. Power without common sense is like no power at all.

[jtuck004]

42. Actually , power without common sense is like a 15 year old at the

wheel of an SUV.

Incredibly destructive and can hurt a lot of people.

I wouldn't call that no power.

[txlibdem]

63. Or an 8 year old

in Africa that has been forced to become hooked on drugs and to join a strong man's death squad (or his family will be killed). You can't really blame the little tyke for shooting up a village. He is just as much a victim as the villagers.

Power corrupts. Absolute power such as the rich and the corporations wield in this country --- corrupts absolutely. Let's help the rich and the corporations out of their misery...

[Divernan]

92. Picture this matrix

A square divided into four quadrants, reflecting personal attributes of employees.

Hard working
Lazy
Smart
Stupid



Possible combinations of personal attributes are:

(1) Hard working & smart

(2) Hard working & Stupid

(3) Lazy & smart

(4) Lazy & stupid

The most damage
is done by the Hard-working and stupid.

[lark]

91. If they aren't afraid, they aren't paying attention

Repugs control both houses due to Dem timidity in not actually making them filibuster and MOST of the governorships which control redistricting. They also have the media and almost all the corps on their side too.

Nothing will get done in Congress, and the talking heads and media and Repugs will all blame Dems - have majority in Senate and Presidency. If Obama wins in 2012, it will be a major miracle and I for one am very afraid of what they will do if they have the presidency and even 1 branch of congress.

[Citizen Worker]

43. And the republicans control the white house by default.

[MilesColtrane]

71. The unwillingness to confront reality that is sometimes on display here...

always amazes me.

I guess I should be used to it by now.

Before the election I saw poster after poster declare that not only were Democrats going to keep the House, they were going to gain seats.

[jgraz]

6. Kind of makes you wonder how we manage to lose to these clowns...

:banghead:

[Scuba]

61. Yeah, why is that? Seem very curious.

[yodermon]

9. not if FOX says they aren't.

fox creates its own reality, and the mindless zombie horde votes accordingly.

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[Cid_B]

56. Fer Chrissakes..

... that was snobby and condescending.

[nxylas]

62. But it has worked for the Republicans

Who have somehow managed to paint those who demand healthcare for all and oppose tax cuts for billionaires as "elitists".

[femrap]

10. Unfortunately the

'buyer's remorse' can't result in Recalls everywhere....we have now entered the dumfukistan zone....and it will be very ugly.

[rhett o rick]

11. Be wary. Things aint as they appear. The brown shirt TeaBaggers have done their job

and no it is time for the Karl Rove SS to come in and clean house. This is just part of the plan. in two years the Republican Party will have rid itself of the pestie Palins and convince their base it's time for some sane Republicanism of Jeb Bush.

[Lindsey]

12. Man, I hope you're right but I have my doubts. n/t

[rhett o rick]

22. Holy shit, please re-read my post. You dont hope I am right??? nm

[verges]

35. You want Jeb Bush?!?!? nt

[tavalon]

52. Jeb Bush and sane in the same sentence isn't something to hope for

Yeah, he's the smarter one but he's just as mean.

[rhett o rick]

21. self-delete. wrong place

[Blue_In_AK]

51. No more Bushes

PLEASE.

[LawnKorn]

54. The Tea Baggers have no central leadership

The Tea Baggers won and now find themselves at the top, but there is no central figure to give them a plan or direction.

In their individual victories, they have the "Tiger by the tail". In the general election of 2012, the Tea Party will experience the full force of that angry tiger.

It is going to be a lean two years before the next election, but we have the opportunity to finally bury the conservatives and see Democrats in power for a generation.

[byrok]

69. I've been hearing

this crap for years (the opportunity to finally bury the conservatives and see Democrats in power for a generation).

Look around. We just had everything and still got our asses handed to us by a bunch of anti-intellectual, batshits.

When? When are we going to get our shit together?

:hangover:

[Ted_White]

13. They problem is that their base remains ignorant and resorts to dumbass parroting talking points

despite what evidence tells them. It must be nice to be GOP leader with the base they have.

[dsharp88]

37. Exactly. Bush is still trying to sell the same lies ("no reliable intelligence"),

Sarah still gets them riled up, DeMint has fallen in line, and the Rand Paul supporters love that he thinks restaurant owners should keep from serving anyone he or she wants to.

Not much of an implosion when no one notices how unfair, unequal, disingenuous, and dishonest they are.

[truth2power]

88. Ya' know....about that restaurant thing...

How would that work in the real world?? If I were in a restaurant and I saw the owner/manager denying service to an African American, I'd never eat there again. And if I had already finished my meal, I'd REFUSE to pay.

Wouldn't be good for business, is my take.

Rand Paul's an imbecile.

[bobburgster]

14. K&R nt

[loudsue]

15. The GOP is about to take back every office at every level of government due to corporate cash

This election was just a test run for the 2012 elections. Anyone who is laughing about their total ignorance and incompetence doesn't respect the impact of unlimited corporate cash thrown at elections.

In other words, it doesn't matter what disarray they are in....the powers that be LOVE IT that the GOP are so stupid. THAT is precisely WHY they are buying elections for the GOP. Stupid is easier to write legislation for. Stupid is easier to control.

[Kablooie]

16. and Boehner wants to cut taxes. (surprised?)

[salinen]

17. This'll change tomorrow

We are getting satisfaction the wrong way. Every time a republican slips on a banana peel this place lights up. And I think it's sad that we are reduced to this because as progressives we are the most neglected group of all.

[0rganism]

18. And yet, 1.5 years from now, they'll be marching lockstep again

Bet on it. If there's one thing the GOP knows how to do perfectly, it's keeping high-profile players on message when the big money's at stake.

[KeyserSoze87]

19. The GOP and Tea Party are going to collapse in 2012.

It will be the 1984 for Democrats.

[backtomn]

85. I hope that you are right.......

....but we need to make it happen, not hope it will happen. This could be a loooong 2 years.....and it will hopefully improve our motivation.

[KeyserSoze87]

96. By the way things are going, it probably will happen.

Our economy added over 150,000 jobs last month. If that continues, Obama will win.

[sally cat]

20. We did it! They are finally and utterly destroyed!

[countrydad58]

23. And Obama is

still kow towing to them!

[bdamomma]

32. and we will have to tell him they are not to be trusted

but I think he already knows that.

[Gold Metal Flake]

24. When the Republicans do implode, what comes next might be much worse.

"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery..." — Zappa

[Blue Owl]

26. But in the end the GOP always gets its M$M whitewashing & spitshine

Jeebus there's a lotta rotten wood under that whitewash.

[Mopar151]

30. Our side of the fence ain't so perfect......

I mean to tell ya, that's some powerful whitewash they got.

[Shrader]

27. We'll see.

[Bigmack]

31. Not being hyperbolic here...

but you never count on the rattlesnake being so confused that it doesn't realize that it still has a pointy end.

[Gamey]

33. Okay, that was entertaining...

...but also an example.

[CLANG]

34. I love that Dumbya just gave an open and shut war criminal case against himself

[NNN0LHI]

36. Watch how their supporters all vote for them next election regardless of all this though

Then watch as our voters with all the brains sit another one out.

We will sure show them how smart we are.

Ha hahahaha

Don

[Marie Marie]

38. They've been imploding for 2 years

and yet they still managed to kick our ass in the mid-terms. I just don't get it! BUT, let the imploding continue.

[JTFrog]

57. It was hardly an ass kicking. Ass kicking is what happened in 2006.

If you read a little history, you'll see that folks had predicted these election results before Obama even took office.

[mwooldri]

81. Ass kicking? Democrats got whupped at the NC State level.

Previously both NC houses were Dem controlled, now they are Republican controlled. This also means that the Republican controlled houses get to work on re-districting as it is coming up. Otherwise known as gerrymandering the districts to ensure a better Republican stranglehold on the NC legislature.

From my experience, control grows from the ground up. First it is the small city council, then the small counties and so on and so on and you then have Washington.

[backtomn]

86. Our losses in Washington DC were only part of the problem

We lost a bunch of legislatures, just before re-districting begins. Next election, we have more Senate seats to defend. This was an ass-kicking, plain and simple and we might face more of the same in 2012. We need to quit worrying about Repub self-destruction and start making sure they are destroyed. It needs to start today.

[pezDispenser]

39. Don't worry The dems will pick up the slack for the corporations

[unkachuck]

40. this gives me....

....a warm, happy, fuzzy feeling inside....

[Historic NY]

41. Boner is drinking more, & Cantor is speaking aimlessly, Issa want subpoenas..

things are just going peachy...meanwhile times wasting where. the damn jobs Boner.

[grahamhgreen]

44. Not until we tax the rich.

[WheelWalker]

45. I couldn't agree with you more,

Comrade... :kick:

[The Uncola]

46. In what alternate Universe does this hold true.

Geezuz effen tids...

... and here I thought cognitive dissonance was pretty much a Regressive thing. You blew that right out of the water.

:wtf:

[Scurrilous]

47. K & R

:thumbsup:

[PinkFloyd]

48. I think a part of it is this...

While the re-branding idea energized their constituents, they also nominated a bunch of nutcases that cost them the Senate. Now they don't know what to do with this Frankenstein they've created. I hope the nutcases prevail and nominate Palin/Bachman OR Palin/O'Donnell in 2012.

[eridani]

49. If Obama persists in being wishy-washy with the economy, so are the Dems n/t

[krabigirl]

79. And everything else..

[calimary]

50. A few weeks too late for me.

[Enthusiast]

53. They aren't imploding

enough to suit me. I hope this trend continues.

[LawnKorn]

55. K&R

[zehnkatzen]

58. Now, if only people will stop voting for them. n/t

[Swede Atlanta]

59. Not sure this is "implosion"..........

This is exactly what the talking heads predicted. After the election there would be a fight within the right to define the structure and control of the right-wing in this country.

The competitors would be traditional Republics who are used to exercising seniority and wielding control against the Teabaggers who want in every way to usurp that control and if not take control of the party apparatus at least drive its direction.

So the traditional party is snubbing Michelle Bachmann for a leadership post. They know she may bring out some voters with her fantastic assertions but is a wildcard they cannot control. Sarah may well be a threat to a more traditional presidential candidate in 2012 and has already demonstrated her ability to influence elections, at least Republic primaries.

Demint is confused because he doesn't know which side will win. He wants to be a winner (even if the American people are the losers).

Rand Paul will likely be a firebrand in the House but largely ineffective at accomplishing anything. He is indeed flip-flopping as he did from the primary to the general just like his toupee.

Although I have no plans to read his book we all knew he was being handled and controlled by others. He kept up the face of loyalty during his term but it doesn't surprise me he is revealing some of the truth behind the workings of his White House. There are so many targets for his derision.

But it would be folly to take this as an "implosion". It will be interesting to see how this plays out. There are many scenarios including one that splits the so-called conservative movement in two with two "parties" that caucus together in Congress much as the Democrats and Independents do in the Senate.

They are united in their goals - bringing down Obama, destroying everything he has done for the American middle class including health care and financial reform and serving their corporate masters.

[disndat]

68. The Supreme Court is in their big picture

or their cross hair, if they win in 2012. A real possibility that all good people should mobilize to prevent.

[Myrina]

60. Nice except you gotta know Bush is lying. Its the only thing he knows how to do.

n/t

[Hubert Flottz]

64. I wish they'd all flush themselves and make the world a better place.

I hate to breathe the same air...

[paparush]

65. They're setting up Jeb as the white knight to come riding to the rescue.

[bdamomma]

70. oh yea, he is just waiting in the wings.

no more bushes please.

[Turbineguy]

72. They are not imploding.

They've just won and are not handling it very well.

[pgodbold]

73. It's "Lord Of The Flies" ... real life edition. nt

[Daemonaquila]

74. Oh, horsepuckey. They're WINNING.

Who cares about the high-school antics of the GOP? They just won big, and they're going to spend the next 2 years in Washington being as destructive as (in)humanly possible. If you don't want 2012 to look even worse, don't underestimate them.

[jonthebru]

77. Yup, they are changing in an unpredictable manner.

But don't go to sleep, they are masters at managing the dialog and they work the media very well, The greatest win last week was the elimination of Grayson and Feingold, two really scrappy defenders of the people. It was, in the parlance of knowing your enemy, a marvelous take down.

[orbitalman]

75. GOP is Imploding... to be replaced by WHAT??? n/t

[happygoluckytoyou]

76. sadly i think my life will be turning on the news and hearing another PALIN-DRONE

[blueknight]

80. not trying to be a debbie downer,

but it does'nt matter. people that vote for them are so fucking stupid, they wont pay attention anyhow. they will just turn on fox news and hear how good everything is

[krabigirl]

78. I wouldn't be dancing in the street. The corporatist Democratic party is not in good shape.

[Xenotime]

82. Good.

[MrMickeysMom]

83. I don't know...

There seem to be too many people texting and not reading newspapers or the stuff on the internets to care much.

I'm gonna wait for more hard evidence. Then I'll woop it up with you - promise.

[backtomn]

84. Talk about your small victories........Yikes.

This is pitiful. I guess you need something to sustain yourself for the next 2 years.

This is really not going to help us much for 2012......just a distraction.

[get the red out]

89. Big $$$ will bring them back into line

One thing about Republicans that will always bind them together is their unquestioning religious devotion to $$$$$$$$$$.

[beforeyoureyes]

90. they just took the house...

And gained in the Senate...

I am all a flutter.

[KG]

94. um, no.

[johnlucas]

95. Here's a thought.

Instead of worrying about all this ignorant party business (hint: neither are on your side), get in touch with IDEAS that aim to make the country better.
Quit looking for "leaders" & lead yourself.
That doesn't mean running for office either.

The political system DOES NOT WORK.
It's time to face that.

The promise of this site is the Underground.
The flaw of this site is the Democratic.

People who identify with the Progressive IDEAS and IDEALS come here to champion these things.
But others conflate the Democratic Party with the Progressive Movement which is not necessarily so. They come here to rah-rah for the Democrat team & always miss the point with that conflation.

I recently put up a whole analogy comparing the Progressive Movement with Dr. Pepper & the Democratic Party with the Coca-Cola Company, parent company of Dr. Pepper.
Coca-Cola bought out Dr. Pepper but people buy Dr. Pepper because they like Dr. Pepper not necessarily because they like Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola is just its bottler.

Read it & put it on your favorites. It's Post #33 in a topic called "GOP: We Owe It to People to Repeal Health Care" by Poll_Blind.
"This is what happens when you half-step"

This is BEYOND the Democratic Party. It is about the dignity of all humankind. It is BEYOND the United States of America.
This is the ultimate evolution of Civilization we're fighting for here.
Civilization has never quite worked right because it doesn't protect or provide for each member of that civilization.

We're better than we used to be. We don't throw people into the volcano to satisfy the Rain God & we don't burn people at the stake because they have an odd birthmark on their face.
Humanity HAS improved as slowly as that may be. And we must continue to improve & recognize that until ALL of us are doing good, then really NONE of us are doing good.
We must work for as long as it takes until a Civilization LITERALLY for the good of all is a reality.

The Democratic Party is just one of many many many many many many MANY tools to work toward the ultimate purpose.
Don't get trapped on the wrappings, remember the true present underneath that wrapping.
John Lucas