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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 12:04 AM
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Did I get the sub-subtext of "Waiting for Superman" right?
Bill Gates: I want to hire cheap labor, so I'll get engineers from overseas whilst selling you the idea that our education system has left me with no alternative since, as I've been telling you for years now, we have a shortage of engineers and scientists.


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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 12:06 AM
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1. That's the best description I've read yet.
:thumbsup: I might have to steal that, with attribution to you!
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 12:21 AM
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2. Thanks! :) I didn't even see that coming, but...
...as soon as Gates started talking and Guggenheim shot to the young, Indian engineers -- possibly Gates's own employees -- it just smacked me in the face.

I thought... Really, Bill? There aren't any unemployed engineers? Really? My next thought was... Boy, how long will it take to debunk this myth? 2 minutes? 5 minutes max?



Scientist shortage? Maybe not

...Speaking to the National Academy of Sciences in April (2009), Obama announced "a renewed commitment to education in mathematics and science," fulfilling a campaign promise to train 100,000 scientists and engineers during his presidency.

Only problem: We may not have jobs for them all.

As the push to train more young people in STEM — science, technology, engineering and math — careers gains steam, a few prominent skeptics are warning that it may be misguided — and that rhetoric about the USA losing its world pre-eminence in science, math and technology may be a stretch.

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Among the most vocal critics: Michael Teitelbaum of the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation in New York, which funds basic scientific, economic and civic research. He says there are "substantially more scientists and engineers" graduating from the USA's universities than can find attractive jobs.

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Alan Weissberger, a 61-year-old telecommunications engineer in Santa Clara, Calif., admits to being "stumped" when people say there's a shortage of engineers. He has been unemployed since 2005. Unemployment, especially among older Silicon Valley engineers, has been a constant reality for the past 20 years, he says. "But it's certainly gone into 'hyper mode' in the last six."

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Many of his fellow over-40 engineers hear repeatedly that they're actually overqualified for many of the jobs they seek; he recalls that a friend, laid off from Nortel in 2002, couldn't find work for 1½ years, until Santa Clara University hired him — as its dean of engineering.

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Microsoft cofounder Bill Gates told Congress last year U.S. companies "face a severe shortfall of scientists and engineers with expertise to develop the next generation of breakthroughs. … If we don't reverse these trends, our competitive advantage will erode."

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In 2007, amid a renewed push in Congress to get more taxpayer funding for science teachers — and more student aid for science and engineering majors — Teitelbaum told lawmakers that no objective data have found overall shortages of scientists and engineers.

Such warnings, he said, are "simply the expressions of interests by interest groups and their lobbyists." He cited companies that employ scientists and engineers, universities, and even immigration lawyers.

Limited growth possible

Rapid increases in federal funding for research and education, Teitelbaum said, are "more likely than not to further destabilize career paths for junior scientists," as more funding will generate "substantial growth" in slots for graduate students but only limited growth in the number of career scientific positions down the line.


http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2009-07-08-science-engineer-jobs_N.htm


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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 12:31 AM
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3. I've been confounded by his statements too.
I have the dual perspective of being a teacher and also living close to Silicon Valley, watching friends of mine struggle to find work in IT despite being massively qualified. I also read articles from India about education reformers in *their* country, and they use the same lines--we aren't competitive with other countries. I was starting to smell a rat, there. I think you put your finger on exactly why.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 12:33 AM
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4. LOL Awesome!
:thumbsup:

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