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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:21 PM
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San Diego Has Hottest November day in at least 138 years
It is 93 right now (in Balboa Park). Its HOT!

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/04/temperatures-heading-back-90s/?sciquest

This has been the hottest November day in San Diego since temperature record keeping began in 1872, back when Ulysses S. Grant was president.

The temperature hit 100 degrees at Lindbergh Field -- 28 degrees higher than normal and 3 degrees above the previous record high for Nov. 4th, a reading of 97 in 1976.

Lindbergh last hit 100 degrees on Sept. 25, 1989.

The extraordinary heat was the result of a meteorological chain reaction.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:23 PM
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1. Oh com'on there is NO Global Weather change
by the way, high neighbor...

:hi:

Wait, they will settle that soon during them hearings, Really.

And we are the laughin' stock of the world.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:25 PM
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3. Hi back neighbor...
Hopefully I can sleep tonight... last night was miserable - between my dog and my partner I could not fall asleep. I hate it when it gets this hot!)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:27 PM
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4. I know the feeling
you know it is bad when the parrots don't want to be covered...
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:25 PM
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2. Wow..
Recently, over four weeks ago, San Francisco (city and county) had the highest temperatures ever experienced in its entire history of weather. Temperature reached nearly 100 degrees.. and for a city that is normally clouded in fog, and moisture.. there was not one cloud.. for at least 24 hours..when the temperature dipped down to 93.

Indeed, something is going on.

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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:53 PM
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9. Wrong about SF Weather and that September was the warmest ever
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 09:01 PM by CreekDog
San Francisco averages hot days every year --just not that many of them, but days over 90 degrees are NORMAL a couple or few times per year.

September 1984 (average 81/62) was a 30 day period that was as warm as September 2010 (in fact in 1984 had a marginally hotter day).

And in 2000 and in 1988, we had hotter days.

We've reached 100 multiple times going back decades.

Top 20 Max Temperatures

Rank Date Max Temperature
1 7/17/1988 103
2 6/14/2000 103
3 10/5/1987 102
4 9/8/1904 101
5 9/16/1913 101
6 6/14/1961 101
7 9/14/1971 101
8 5/30/2001 101
9 9/7/1904 100
10 9/9/1932 100

http://ggweather.com/sf/top%2020%20temp.html

Do I believe in global warming? Of course. But that doesn't mean SF suddenly has hot days and didn't before. We had the same number of 90 degree days this year as in 1976.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:55 PM
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14. It was hot - records fall all over the Bay Area
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 09:57 PM by AsahinaKimi
August 25, 2010|By Peter Fimrite, Chronicle Staff Writer



The sun came out with a vengeance Tuesday, pushing the thermometer into triple digits and setting records for this date at every weather station in the Bay Area.

Fires, power failures, transit delays and more than a few sunburns were being attributed to the heat, which was caused by a high pressure area over the West Coast that created what meteorologists call compressional heating.

Coastal fog was absent, which created temperatures along the coast rivaling those in the Central Valley.


"It was really a strange day," said Mike Pechner, a private meteorologist who has been forecasting weather in Northern California for 30 years.

It was the warmest August date ever in San Francisco, which topped out at 98 degrees, smashing the previous high for Aug. 24 by 9 degrees. It tied the all-time record for the month set on Aug. 1, 2003, according to the National Weather Service.

Pechner said several private weather networks in San Francisco had unofficial readings as high as 106 degrees, which would be three degrees above the official all-time high for the city set on July 17, 1988.

It was 90 degrees by 11 a.m. at San Francisco's Fort Funston, a sometimes frigid place where biting winds and heavy fog often sweep in off the ocean. It was hotter there than some places inland, Pechner said.

"That's really amazing, I think, because that is right on the water," he said.


http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-08-25/bay-area/22233569_1_heat-related-train-operators-three-degrees
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 10:42 PM
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17. I agreed it was hot, I disagreed it was unprecedented --I've lived here a long time too!
San Franciscans frequently think its abnormal for it to be over 90 degrees, but every year it does happen a few or more times.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:15 PM
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21. so you are calling BS
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 03:16 PM by AsahinaKimi
on the SFGATE article, fine...
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:33 PM
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23. not exactly...the Gate article was more circumspect than the post I was critical of
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 03:37 PM by CreekDog
we've had periods of weather like this before. that post made it sound like we have always been foggy and damp until this year. that post said that almost 100 was unheard of until this year --also wrong.

San Francisco does get hot from time to time, we have our own version of Santa Ana winds and when high pressure systems park over us in late summer, or early summer, it can get nearly as warm by the water as it does in the Central Valley.

and earlier this summer we had the coldest July since 1971 --so the cold we had this summer was more noteworthy than the heat we had during the late summer and fall. because that level of cold during summer wasn't experienced in almost 40 years...whereas this level of heat has been reached multiple times in the past 30 years.

and while I love when SFGate does weather articles because i love the attention to Bay Area weather and especially microclimates (something i studied in grad school...focused specifically on the dynamics of our summertime weather).

so i'm not talking about this subject out of hand.

hope you can appreciate my interest in the details here. :hi:
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:15 PM
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22. dupe
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 03:16 PM by AsahinaKimi
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:29 PM
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5. Come on, this is over, we all know Climate Change is a hoax
Nothing to see here, folks.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:36 PM
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6. All of coastal California has been unseasonably hot
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:39 PM
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7. are you getting any rain at all?
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:47 PM
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8. San Diego had a week of rain two weeks ago
they said it was going to be a raining fall here and a dry spring. I don't think they know one way or the other - so far its been a mix of bot, but our summer was the coldest since 1933.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:53 AM
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18. Wine Country received a little over 2 inches in October
It played havoc with crush -- fruit was still hanging because of the mild summer.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:10 PM
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11. And it is not cooling off at night,
which for beach towns is just unheard of.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:04 PM
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10. This will be the third night in a row where I have needed AC all night long
to be comfortable. Not that I used it, of course - I try to conserve energy and tough it out at times. But it has been warranted, just like a 3 day stretch way back in APRIL of this year. Of course the rest of the summer was pretty tame, and then Sept was hellish, but Oct was very weirdly cool, cloudy, and RAINY.

No, there is no such thing as climate change due to global warming. No sirree.
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paulflorez Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:43 PM
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12. We've already blown past October and no Santa Ana Winds this year either...
not that I miss them.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:48 PM
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13. it was really really hot today.
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 10:16 PM
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15. Where I live,
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 11:10 PM by necso
we had unusually wet weather for October, primarily in the form of winterish lows (I seem to remember some monsoonal moisture early on) alternating with highs, some strong (although because of topography, we often don't get the fullness of effects from these highs that occur elsewhere). (This isn't an unusual winter weather pattern, except that it's earlier than usual, and the weather "waves" seem (I've made no scientific study*) sharper, higher, more clustered.)

Yesterday, my neighbor remarked on how quickly the oak leaves seemed to change color in recent days (this is also my impression... again, I've made no scientific study). There were times in the last weeks when it was cold enough (near freezing) for snow to settle, but fortunately at those times we didn't have any precipitation, because the oak leaves hadn't (haven't) fallen.

And the forecast calls for more chances of rain.

*: But over the years, I've come up with some fairly reliable guidelines for what's to be expected from the weather, because this is important input to making decisions about whether it's worth shoveling, when to make shopping trips and be done with winterizing, processing firewood, etc. (I could go on...)

Of course, I constantly try to refine these guidelines, note when they fail, and attempt to figure out why. And I'm always looking for signs that something unusual is going to happen (which increasingly seems to be the case in recent years). This year, for instance, "ocean weather" seemed to be of stronger influence in the summer than it's been, and I had a wood-fire (not just paper) in August for the first time in 18 summers.

So I figured that this pattern might mean "winter" weather moving in earlier than normal (although I was thinking middle of October, not beginning).

...

What no subtitles? Well, then I'll get to watch "Road No. 1" from the start.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 10:34 PM
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16. All this "extraordinary" weather...
:wtf:

These fossil fuel burning monkeys have really screwed things up.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 10:02 AM
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19. It's Cyclical. Every 138 years.
That was simple.



















:sarcasm:
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 10:44 AM
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20. Wow, we're not even close to that hot here in Vegas...
...although we are setting records.

The weatherman on Monday was crowing about the heat, saying "Isn't it great, why it's 6pm and it's still 83 degrees!"

This is a weatherman. You would think he might have some information concerning global climate change, aka global warming.

Nope, he thinks it's just great that we're setting records this week. Gotta love the sunshine and heat, as if we don't get enough of that here.

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