Is The R Victory In The House A Pyrrhic Victory?

[stopbush]

The House will be no more effective under R rule than it was under D rule.

The D-controlled Senate can block anything coming out of the House, because the Rs will need to get 14 D Senators to join them to beat any filibuster. And that’s IF Reid even allows any R-written House bill to come up for a vote in the Senate. Don’t count on it as the Senate Rs basically blocked votes on over 400 pieces of legislation that came out of Pelosi’s House. Reid can shut down the R House now simply by returning the favor the Rs handed him in the last session, ie: claim he can't beat a filibuster, so why bother. Hell, Reid could say that the House needed to re-pass those 400 Pelosi House bills to be considered in the Senate before he will even considered bringing any new bills to the floor. Reid could inform the Rs right now that he wants up or down votes on every one of those 400 bills during this lame duck session or he will allow no R House bills to come to the floor in the new session of Congress.

Even if the D-controlled Senate did pass an R House bill, Obama can simply veto everything and send it back to the Congress, where it takes a 2/3 vote in both Houses to override his veto. That means 66 votes in the Senate and 288 votes in the House. Where are the Rs going to line up that kind of support when they have only 238 House seats and 46 Senate seats? By calling the Ds names?

Ain’t gonna happen.

We’re in for two years of gridlock in DC. The House may as well go home as they are a toothless tiger. That might be a better strategy for the Rs than standing around with their thumbs up their asses, crying about the mean Ds and looking as ineffective as boobs on a bull.

Look up the phrase “Pyrrhic victory,” because that’s what the Rs won in the House this week.

[FBaggins]

1. The Senate can't vote on the prior Congress' bills.

You can't go back and vote on "backed up" legislation from the prior House.

The House will be no more effective under R rule than it was under D rule.

You assume that republicans and democrats have the same definition of "effective". If their goal is to block Obama's legislative priorities... they can be incredibly "effective". The Democrats' goal was to enact that legislation.

[texastoast]

2. A nice stalemate

When civility returns (and ALL you trolls need to read your history that Gingrich really is the one who started this whole playground fiasco because the whiny ass Republicans couldn't stand the fact that they lost power after 12 years), maybe we will get something done in Washington.

When all the beltway folks decide to act like grownups, maybe the American people will benefit.

But for now, blinking is not allowed there because of the Republican bullies. Strong-arming never works. Neither does compromising with a bully.

[nradisic]

3. I say absolutely nothing happens for 2 yrs

The Republicans are in lock step. The Democrats left are mostly real Dems - half the Blue Dogs are gone (good!).

I don't see either side letting the other side get away with a legislative victory, hence it is my opinion that absolutely nothing will happen. The GOP will end up taking the brunt of it for a change....the impatient sheeple think they voted for a GOP house for reasons and when absolutely nothing gets done....let's see who gets blamed.