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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:48 AM
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For those of you speaking nicely of Lisa "Arrogant So-and-So" Murkowski, read this.
it ain't over, and a lot of those votes are gonna get thrown out...she should have stayed out...Miller is toxic...we would have gotten this seat...I hate her.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2013340139_elexalaska04.html

ANCHORAGE — Even as Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski appeared to be ahead by a commanding margin as a write-in candidate for re-election, her leading opponent said he was optimistic he ultimately would win. Amid the mixed signals, elections officials said they would begin manually verifying write-in votes next week, sooner than initially planned.

By Wednesday, with 99 percent of precincts reporting, the "Write-in Votes" category had 41 percent of the vote, compared with 34 percent for Joe Miller, the Republican nominee and tea-party favorite who had been endorsed by former Gov. Sarah Palin. Democrat Scott McAdams had 24 percent.

"Our goal was 40 percent and up, 10,000 votes," said Steve Wackowski, a spokesman for the Murkowski campaign. "We are at 41 percent, and we're up 13,500 votes, so we're feeling very good."

The senator, however, stopped short of declaring victory. In addition to the pending write-in count, as many as 30,000 absentee ballots remained to be counted.



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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:50 AM
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1. Murkowski has the same extreme views as Miller.
She's just smart enough to not trumpet them loudly in the media.

I have family in Alaska; I know the skeletons in her closet.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:00 PM
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2. If we had a 50-state strategy like we did in 2006, then we would have
challenged more, would have probably gotten those skeletons out.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:01 PM
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3. WRONG: If either Murkowski or Miller had run without the other one in the race,
they would have won handily. McAdams only had lukewarm support from the State Dem's until late in the year. The only dem who could have had a shot at winning against either was for McAdams to get out of the race and for Tony Knowles to jump into the race as the Democratic nominee. But Tony Knowles had no desire to get into the race.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:05 PM
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6. WRONG! Miller was toxic by the end...his 34% would have been all
he'd gotten.
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MattyGroves Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:11 PM
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19. Republicans would have voted for Miller in the end.
Murkowski gave people an option to vote Republican (which is what Murkowski will vote as) w/out having to support Miller.

If Murkowski hadn't been in the race I see no evidence that indicates that enough Republicans would have stayed home to swing the vote to McAdams.

McAdams only hope from the beginning was to have the R vote split enough that he could slip ahead.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:29 PM
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24. You are right Matty. McAdams had no chance other than for Murkowski and Miller
to perfectly split their vote in the low 30's and then miraculously pick up all the democratic vote and pick off a few independents. Considering the Alaska Dems were lukewarm to him, he really had no chance.

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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:12 PM
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22. No quite, joey. Miller would have had is 34% and would have pulled at least half of
Murkowski's votes. McAdams would still have been lucky to pull 35-40%. Alaska is only about 25% democratic. The balance are republicans and right leaning libertarians. Only a few Dem's have been able to overcome that.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:03 PM
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4. It ain't over, but it looks good for her.
A very small number of those write ins will be for other candidates and I mean less than .5%.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:05 PM
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5. But note that the trend is to throw out about 6% of write-ins...nt.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:06 PM
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8. That's 6% of 40%, not 6% of 100%. I don't think it would be enough to matter. n/t
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:07 PM
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10. She's at 41%, bringing her down to 35, and he's at 34...
depending on the actual numbers, he could challenge a lot of what were considered valid write-ins.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:09 PM
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13. You're saying that 14% of write in votes will be thrown out?
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:09 PM
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17. What i'm saying is I bet every single one will be challenged by Miller...
I doubt she'll get sworn in until before June.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:10 PM
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18. They think they it will be done within a couple weeks.
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 12:13 PM by Renew Deal
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:12 PM
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21. It's 6% OF HER 41%
In other words, about 2.5% of the total votes, bringing her down to 38.5%.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:07 PM
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9. What trend?
In this type of election or all elections?
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:08 PM
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11. In past elections, they said, usually 6% get thrown out...n/t
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:09 PM
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15. 6% of all votes or 6% of write-ins? n/t
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:09 PM
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16. That sounds like 6% of 41%. Not 6% of the total vote (100%)
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:11 PM
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20. So she'd only come down to 37.6%, I'm thinking. n/t
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Gaedel Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:06 PM
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7. Problem is
The machines can count 41,000 write-in votes, but the votes have to be manually counted to see how many wrote in Lisa M. and how many wrote in someone else. They also have to write her name in properly. Look for a lot of lawyers at the hand count.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:08 PM
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12. It was decided a couple of weeks back, though, that "clear voter intent" would
be enough. "Lisa M" or a mangled version of "Murkowski" would suffice. I'm not saying she'll definitely win, but it's not the hurdle many write-in candidates face.
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Gaedel Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:15 PM
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23. The operative word is "clear" nt
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:09 PM
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14. That's the thing...it ain't over...it will drag on forever, even if she eventually wins...nt
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:30 PM
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25. Our only hope is that Miller pulls a "Norm Coleman" and drags this out endlessly
for months.

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