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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:28 AM
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If I were an anti-Democrat strategist looking to 2012 . . . . .
. . . . I would create a structure not unlike the teabagger thing, but for the left. I would order my media to more or less ignore the teabaggers - particularly those just elected to Congress - for a while and cover breathlessly this new organization. Get some meme out there that "the people" are all pissed off for the country going so hard to the right. I'd work to suck in all the far left first, and then start go after those slightly to their right.

Make this a big thing. "The New Place For Hope" if you will. Portray it as all grassrootsie and viable.

The net result will be a split left vote in 2012 and big repubican victories.

The moral: be careful what you wish for. Someone not your friend may give it to you.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:32 AM
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1. Yes. Gop'ers have done that sort of thing all the time. "pot strirring"
Although not on that scale. People are going to call you paranoid, but you're not.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:37 AM
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2. several leftwing causes up for grabs, since dems are no longer supporting the left ideals
they could take up the mantle for marijuana and suck the left dry, very easily right now.

they wouldnt have to pass anything of course just make the noise, look for more of this coming from palin 2011
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:37 AM
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3. Except that there are people here that would LOVE for this to happen.
It would "send a message" and all of that.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:38 AM
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4. Say... Where is Ralph Nader anyway? nt
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Gaedel Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:43 AM
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6. Create a fund for Grayson
So that he and his staffers can live in Iowa from now till the 2012 caucuses.

Get a young leftist groundswell going against Obama and make him burn campaign funds in the primaries.

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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:56 AM
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8. Right here, from yesterday...
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:00 AM
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9. Ralph would know
Ralph, in 2004, was a part of a scheme similar to what I outlined in the OP. I think in 2000 he was more sincere in his intent, albeit misguided.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:42 AM
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5. The GOP spends 99% of their energy
on creating narratives like this.

The Dems need to continue governing but they need to realize that controlling the media narrative is almost as important.

They need to look at Rove's (and before him) Gingrich's techniques but use them to reinforce the facts and the truth
(or at least know how to counteract their techniques).
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:54 AM
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7. Or, an anti-Democratic strategist might try to create doubt by ...
putting out the word that any left leaning grassroots organization are probably controlled by right wingers. This would tend to keep the progressive part of the party with the corporate part of the party in spite of what they may do. It would also thwart any attempts by the left to create a progressive movement.
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