Our worst option is the only one left

[salinen]

The Citizens United decision was the day Democracy died. We are headed toward a system devoid of all humanity in the name of profit. Nevertheless, we'll wait and hope that our elected officials do right by us. What's that definition of insanity again?

[MineralMan]

1. Yet another doom and gloom message, eh?

We just never get enough of those, you know. :sarcasm:

Unrecced out of boredom with content-free posts.

[KittyWampus]

4. curl up in the fetal position and wait for the END, Mineral Man.

or get drunk.

[MineralMan]

6. Well, I got a little tipsy last night, and I'm feeling a little rocky

this morning. Will that do? :rofl:

[Kelvin Mace]

12. The frustration is understandable

as is yours.

I'm voting. I'm sure the poster is as well.

But he outlook is depressing, and I fear that even if we pull this off, things are going to get violent. The Teabaggers don't strike me as gracious losers.

[NoPasaran]

2. What's that definition of insanity again?

Posting the same gloom'n'doom over and over and expecting it to matter?

[Codeine]

3. Every day is the end of the world at DU.

sigh.

[RKP5637]

5. Actually, maybe it already did end ... we'll find out for sure 11/2 and in 2012. n/t

[sufrommich]

7. Yep. nt

[TheKentuckian]

8. Shoot, wait till they get rolling with the sophisticated advocacy pieces and focused fiction

Not for candidates but causes, frames, and issues.

Still, the damn coding for the voting machines and the fundraising remain bigger threats. If those pieces were in the right places then at least if the people saw through the bullshit then their votes could be trusted to be accurate and the people they voted for would be about their business of serving their constituents and nation rather than those with the scratch.

Massive primary reforms would be nice too. When your options are effectively dictated by a few powerful interests democracy is essentially an illusion anyway.

It is a pretty bad mess and Citizens United has no doubt exacerbated it but it's not the terminal factor but rather a notice that resuscitation is out of reach in our current framework, not because of it's direct impact but because of what it so loudly says about what we already had in place.

We love our country too much and hold our essential values too close to have an unbiased perspective but most people with honesty and a little horsepower between the ears would remove the USA label and apply the events of our recent history to any other country besides our own and switch gears real fucking fast on what kind of shape we are in and how secure we are in our freedom and rights.

People are too emotionally invested, too propagandized, and/or too comfortable to really look at the state of our systems and institutions in this country as they would if it was Mexico, Russia, or Eygypt.

Hell, the generational refusal to invest in infrastructure should send shivers down the spine, much less the shenanigans we've dealt with.

[RKP5637]

11. Very good points, especially that it's difficult to realistically see problems from

within, as you said, "People are too emotionally invested, too propagandized, and/or too comfortable to really look at the state of our systems and institutions in this country as they would if it was Mexico, Russia, or Egypt."

Agree with all you said!!!

[salinen]

14. I enjoyed your words

especially "Hell, the generational refusal to invest in infrastructure should send shivers down the spine, much less the shenanigans we've dealt with." No shit!

[Ozymanithrax]

9. Periods like this happen in history...

Things may be bad for a while, but eventually people will be willing to fight to make them better again.

[salinen]

15. You're talking me

off the ledge.

[lpbk2713]

10. I expected this to be another "Vote for Crist" thread.

:eyes:

[Hekate]

13. I have a thistle patch on the other side of the Hundred Acre Wood that I'll share with you

[salinen]

16. You are the most wonderful

person I've ever met. Cheers friend.