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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 03:16 PM Original message |
Poll question: According to you, are some cultures ethically superior to other cultures? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. Absolutely. To pretend that all cultures are equal is also to pretend |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I think so. I mean, for instance, I think the culture of Nazi Germany was overall not a very moral |
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WillieW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 09:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
143. and the US is/was? |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #143 |
162. No, ours isn't either. n/t |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. And what would be the "standard" for change? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. To start, cultures that respect women's rights |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. Maybe in this period, however, during past periods it was not the norm. |
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Shankapotomus (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 06:55 AM Response to Reply #5 |
61. cultures that help the weak and vurerable should be the standard of good |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. duplicate |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. It would be arrogant to think that other cultures are better than others. |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 03:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. See, that's where we're going to disagree. |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
37. Really? According to who some cultures are better than others? |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 08:27 AM Response to Reply #37 |
63. Here's several. |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #63 |
77. Only westerners? |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #77 |
91. Well, okay. |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #91 |
99. Really, I was not trying to argue but to point out our bias. |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
114. Presumably according to you. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 08:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
31. Yes, but arrogant does not mean incorrect |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 11:46 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Not at all incorrect. Same as no culture is better or worse than others. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 05:30 AM Response to Reply #38 |
49. "Culture" doesn't stop short of ethics. It isn't merely a question of eating insects or not. |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #49 |
76. No it is not. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #76 |
170. No absolutes? Really? |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yes, particularly as to cultures' treatment of the poor, the elderly, women and children. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 08:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
66. I think you're going the right direction, but I'd drop the effort to enumerate every group... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
7. The belief that some are better makes a helluva good excuse for war and colonialism. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. And the belief that all are equal is an excuse for Nazi Germany. n/t |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 04:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Or the Taliban, or the Confederacy. (nt) |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 08:30 AM Response to Reply #17 |
64. or Khmer Rouge or Burma or Tamil or Jinjaweed. n/t |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. We still have precisely that attitude. |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 11:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
40. Norway is ethically superior to Zimbabwe. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
171. You've just exemplified the danger in these kinds of comparisons. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 05:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
50. Why impute such attitudes to DU'ers? |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 05:47 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. They didn't. No mention of DUers in that post whatsoever |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 05:53 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Who is answering the poll? |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 06:16 AM Response to Reply #50 |
57. As I said, If some DUers read those comments as pertaining to their attitudes that's their problem. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 06:26 AM Response to Reply #7 |
58. Which culture do you think has a healthier view of the family? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
113. Which beliefs can't be abused? nt |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 07:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
118. If no cultures are superior to others... |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. Of course. And if you have any doubt, just remove borders from the equation and |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
9. How many DUers do not think they are better than conservatives at free republic? |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
11. Yep. I know a lot of people like to play the moral relativist on here... |
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Primitive Mind (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I absolutely agree... |
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Lisa0825 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
32. Welcome to DU! |
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Primitive Mind (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
79. Thanks N/T |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
14. Going on record, yes, most definitely. But all ethics are based on social mores and subjective. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
15. cultural relativism |
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uncommon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #15 |
158. It's also ridiculous. |
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The Philosopher (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
16. Superior |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. For you. The poll is about your beliefs. nt |
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The Philosopher (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 01:18 AM Response to Reply #25 |
42. Are you asking then |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #42 |
80. I am asking if any two cultures have unequal ethics, one culture being more or less ethical than |
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flyingfysh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
19. I voted "yes" |
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Yeshuah Ben Joseph (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Oh, tell Me about it! |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
20. No. Some geographic locations have better political systems. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
21. Democratic culture is far superior to Republican culture. |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
22. If we lived in a world where anyone could leave a culture they didn't like |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
23. Those damned horses need to stop standing when they sleep |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
26. What is culture? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. The generally accepted behavior of a group; particularly countries, since I used countries |
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Up Quark (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. You can lead a horticulture, but |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 04:43 AM Response to Reply #26 |
181. +100 |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
29. Other: I understand horse culture better than human on most days. nt |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
30. The "no" voters have fallen into a tragic intellectual trap |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 01:19 AM Response to Reply #30 |
43. or the "yes" |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:17 AM Response to Reply #43 |
73. I know you are straight, white, and fairly well off. |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. I see you know me well. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #75 |
104. Racism is wrong. Female Genital Mutilation are wrong. Slavery is wrong. |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. That's your opinion based on the tradition you were raised. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. Mutiliating little girls' private parts to satisfy a misogynistic society is EVIL. |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. Aren't breast augmentation procedures done to satisfy a misogynistic society? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 10:19 AM Response to Reply #111 |
145. How do bigger breasts enable a woman to cope in a misogynistic society? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 12:54 AM Response to Reply #108 |
126. The culture of raping females after/as part of war is ethically inferior to those that don't. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 07:54 AM Response to Reply #126 |
138. +1,000,000,000,000,000,000 |
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uncommon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 11:06 AM Response to Reply #108 |
159. But there ARE absolutes. They are called human rights, and everyone on this planet |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
34. Certainly. I have no use for cultural relativism. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #34 |
81. I believe cultural relativism is a useful tool which helps anthropologists |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
35. Ethics matter. |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
39. To the DUers who voted "No" |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
41. Yes. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
44. The culture of Democratic Underground is superior to |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 04:52 AM Response to Original message |
45. i don't believe in cultural exceptionalism. i believe in fragile humanity. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 05:17 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Agreed. Cultural exceptionalism leads to cultural imperialism and any real Liberal would know that. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #47 |
82. Actually, this question comes from my anthropology class. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #47 |
106. Saying FGM, misogyny, homophobia, and misogyny is absolutely WRONG is insensitive? |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 12:13 AM Response to Reply #106 |
123. Of course they are WRONG, to us. But that wasn't the question in the OP. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 07:53 AM Response to Reply #123 |
137. They are wrong everywhere. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #137 |
177. I don't disagree. There are obviously some people who do, though. Otherwise they wouldn't exist. |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 03:46 AM Response to Reply #47 |
132. Ah, I think I'm getting some explanations here. |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 04:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
103. +1000 |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 05:05 AM Response to Original message |
46. That's way too simple a question for what is way too complex |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 05:26 AM Response to Original message |
48. As a female, I perforce would say, "Yes." |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 05:32 AM Response to Original message |
51. Agree with post #21, re: Democratic vs. Republican.. |
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melm00se (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 05:42 AM Response to Original message |
52. there is a flaw here |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #52 |
83. "the key is what do you use as your measurement" |
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melm00se (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 06:42 AM Response to Reply #83 |
136. I see |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 05:47 AM Response to Original message |
53. To say yes requires you to accept objective ethics, i.e. things are intrinsically evil or good. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 06:42 AM Response to Reply #53 |
60. And you don't? |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 07:51 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. For the most part, I do. |
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Eryemil (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #60 |
78. Accepting that morality is relative does not mean one is without morality. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:03 AM Response to Reply #53 |
72. I accept objective ethics |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 05:49 AM Response to Original message |
55. Yes. My culture is far superior to that of the US... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #55 |
97. If you make an OP declaring your culture is superior to America's culture, PLEASE send me a link to |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 04:25 AM Response to Reply #97 |
179. I'll leave the threads simplifying culture to you n/t |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 08:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
120. *Checks profile* *Agrees* |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 12:41 AM Response to Reply #55 |
125. How very interesting. A person from a country that shows nothing but American movies |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 04:24 AM Response to Reply #125 |
178. I'm not from a country that does that at all... |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #178 |
190. Agreed. As unfathomable as it may be that there are some playing "my culture's better than yours" |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 06:31 AM Response to Original message |
59. Some ideas and policies are better for the common good |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 08:40 AM Response to Reply #59 |
67. And the "common good" has often been used to rationalize policies that hurt people |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 08:56 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. That's secondary to the main point I was hinting at |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
68. If the implication here is that the U.S. is ethically superior |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:02 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. I believe ZH would be OK with you saying that Icelandic culture is superior to US culture |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #71 |
87. You are correct, thank you. nt |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #68 |
86. I do not personally believe the US is a particularly ethical country. |
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Rebubula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #86 |
160. Off Topic... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #160 |
172. I have Dead Rising 2 on the PS3. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #68 |
100. Why on Earth would that be the implication? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
70. Yes. |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
74. perhaps, but it is not so clear cut or black and white |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:20 PM Response to Reply #74 |
88. Interesting reply, thank you. nt |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
84. I think some are better than others. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
85. isnt it culture that defines ethics? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Many Americans do not believe America is ethically superior to other nations. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Well, even if you consider that perspective, you must go beyond |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Good point. nt |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #85 |
153. To a degree, it's a circular question. |
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Tikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
93. Can a culture where hypocrisy is both... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
94. What an amazingly divisive "poll" question (n/t) |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. How typical of a horse lover. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. "Things are going well so far" |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Almost 100 posts and no deletes. Pretty good for DU. nt |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. You spoke too soon. Check out post #65. nt |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. I just saw that, I have a feeling I just inspired a lot of alerts. |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 06:46 AM Response to Reply #102 |
182. I certainly hope not. |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #94 |
107. So is that a "yes" or a "no"? (nt) |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #94 |
116. Yes. How DARE the OP ignite a debate on an internet discussion board. |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
105. The anthropologist in me says no. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #105 |
112. I voted "yes," but I understand the anthropologist's situation. nt |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #105 |
115. So why does an anthropologist think that a culture in which women are stoned to death |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 08:07 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. Because anthropologists believe that no one culture is superior to another. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #115 |
122. Generally speaking, scientists are supposed to be objective. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 10:35 AM Response to Reply #122 |
148. That wasn't the question asked |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #148 |
161. I agree. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #148 |
168. I agree, but I was referring to your question, |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 10:30 AM Response to Reply #105 |
147. Interesting way of putting it. |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #147 |
169. Apparently DUers don't have an understanding of how anthropology works. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #169 |
173. Anthropology doesn't have anything to do with ethics. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 08:08 AM Response to Reply #173 |
184. The OP isn't based upon |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #105 |
176. At which point how to you justify opposing e.g. female genital mutilation? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
110. White Man's Burden vs. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
117. Standards change with education and equitable wealth distribution. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
121. Yes, and you'll notice the most ethical societies are the most socialistic ones. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
124. Cultures? Yes? Races? No? |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
127. Interesting question. I've tried to get past my heebies (and jeebies) that the question provoked |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 02:12 AM Response to Reply #127 |
129. I agree every culture has its pluses and minuses, but not all pluses and mines are equal. |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 03:43 AM Response to Reply #129 |
131. All pluses and all minuses are subjective. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 03:57 AM Response to Reply #131 |
133. Your last sentence explains my main problem with this false dichotomy of superior vs inferior |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 04:27 AM Response to Reply #133 |
134. In truth, that would have been the only correct answer to such a question. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 08:36 AM Response to Reply #131 |
140. "All pluses and all minuses are subjective." |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #127 |
151. We know about all the minuses, but what were some of the pluses about the Nazis? |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #151 |
174. The Nazis would have never come to power if everything they did was evil |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 07:53 AM Response to Reply #174 |
183. Same with Pol Pot, I trust? And Stalin? Yes, tyrants always have a silver lining! |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #183 |
186. Yup. Say what you want about Idi Amin... |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #183 |
188. You prove that the old adage "ignorance is bliss" is alive and well |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
128. I honestly cannot believe the results of this poll. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 02:19 AM Response to Reply #128 |
130. I was also expecting more horsephobic votes. |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 05:45 AM Response to Original message |
135. Unfortunately, in order to determine superiority of one culture |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 08:20 AM Response to Reply #135 |
139. The poll is not really about other cultures, it is about your perspective on other cultures. |
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Baalath (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
141. Of course some cultures are ethically superior to others |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #141 |
142. Excellent points. nt |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #141 |
150. +1 and welcome to DU. n/t |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
144. Ethics is part of culture. It does not exist independently. Reality has no ethics and no morals. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #144 |
149. Is slavery ethically neutral? n/t |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #149 |
163. I believe it has often been contentious, so no, it would not be neutral. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #163 |
164. The emerging consensus view is that slavery was an ethical negative. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #164 |
166. Hmmmm ... |
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Baalath (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #144 |
154. Ok so it's not objective. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #154 |
167. Your various questions: |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #144 |
155. A color blind person can't make a distinction between red and green. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #155 |
165. Color is something people do, it does not exist independently. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
146. it's more useful to talk about governments |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
152. Well the Aztecs committed human sacrifice of virgins and young people. |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
156. Homo sapiens are basically the same everywhere |
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uncommon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
157. Yes, of course. I don't buy into cultural relativism - right is right and wrong is wrong. |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #157 |
175. So, basically, your moral absolute hangs upon your own |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 04:42 AM Response to Original message |
180. I think this kind of wholesale comparison of "cultures" is invidious bullshit. |
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clyrc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
185. What a can of worms! |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 10:35 AM Response to Reply #185 |
187. You don't agree on what is ultimately important because of programming. |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
189. a BIG f-in LOL to option # 3 nt |
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