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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 04:14 PM
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Did you know there are two sides to Gay suicide?
At least that's the opinion of the Washington Post.------Fuckers!

Via Pam's House Blend, I learn that the Washington Post's remarkably poor decision to post Tony Perkins's falsehood laden, anti-gay screed on their On Faith blog (on National Coming Out Day nonetheless) was because they felt they needed to "cover both sides" of "bullying and gay suicide." No, really, they're serious. Apparently they hosted a Live Q & A chat with Dan Savage to discuss "bullying and gay suicide" and his "It Gets Better Project," which is a You Tube channel Savage created in order to reach out to gay youths to prevent suicide. So, to balance Savage, the Post turned to Perkins to respond. Apparently to the Post, gay suicide is a two-sided issue.

GLAAD and the Washington Post had an exchange over Twitter, in which the Post responded to criticism over publishing Perkins' column, by saying, "e're working to cover both sides. Earlier, we hosted Dan Savage of It Gets Better in a live chat." GLAAD rightly replied, "There are not 'both sides' to this issue. Teen suicide isn't a debate-it's a tragedy."
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201010130014
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 04:17 PM
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1. That's crazy - and the latest example of "covering both sides"...
...when the corporations behind the media are trying to shield the side that's WRONG.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 04:17 PM
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2. If the current editorial policies had been applied 70 years ago -
we would have had the articles covering the other side of Kristallnacht - why they had it coming!
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 04:33 PM
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"Some people say"
that the Jews have been keeping the Germans under their iron boots for thousands of years. :eyes:
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 05:42 PM
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12. Funny you should use that example. Several years ago,
Deborah Lipstadt, a prominent Holocaust historian who was sued for libel under the horrendously lax British libel law by the British Holocaust denier (and so-called "historian"-but any "historian" who denies the Holocaust has absolutely NO right whatseover to call themselves or be considered a historian by any means) David something-or-other (can't recall his name now, 'cause he ain't worth it), said that several times when she was asked to be a guest on a program (news, talk, etc.), she was told that Holocaust deniers would also be a part of the program. When she rightly and vigorously protested, she was floored when she was told variations of "the OTHER SIDE should be represented as well". "Other side"?, she'd ask? There IS NO OTHER SIDE WHEN IT COMES TO THE HOLOCAUST. She was shocked that she couldn't get some producers to understand that.

There are, indeed, usually two sides to every story. But there are some events and stories, such as the Holocaust and teen gay suicide, for which there simply is no such thing as an "other side" and it's beyond insulting, despicable and disgraceful to even consider such a thing.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 05:50 PM
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15. And this little gem: "Lynchings: Strange Fruit that builds a community"
Edited on Wed Oct-13-10 05:50 PM by Toucano
I swear, they're idiots.
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 04:19 PM
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3. Horses shit when are we going to put an end to these monsters?
im sick to f king death of fairly unhinged assholes getting equal air time.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 04:23 PM
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4. Ew. Ewewew.
My God. Suicide is bad. So are the psychopaths who push people to it.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 04:27 PM
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5. They're fucking scared of getting beat up by right wing nuts
I think they are actually physically afraid of these crazies.

They're aware of the nut that got all worked up by listening to Glenn Beck and drove to SF to shoot some "liberals".

They know they're constantly being labelled as "liberals" by the Becks and Limbaughs of the world.

I don't get the impression that journalists are the type of people that would be very skilled at defending themselves in a physical confrontation.

They definitely do not personify "courage".
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 04:29 PM
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6. And DU is filled with people calling Dan Savage a criminal
with a shady past and trying to hinder the good work he is doing.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 04:44 PM
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8. Jeeezz... who says * that*? nt
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 05:45 PM
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13. I think that's largely due to his blatant cheerleading for
and support of the Iraq war for several years. While one is justified in being angry with him for that absurdity, it has nothing to do with the good work he's doing in the area of prevention of gay suicides.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:11 AM
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18. No, it's not even that intelligent.
It has to do with a prank he pulled in 2000, when he licked the doorknobs at the local Bush headquarters.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 04:33 PM
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7. K&R n/t
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 05:34 PM
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9. This is the same Washington Post looking for balance on torture
Sure, most folks agree that torture's bad, but let's look at all the facts first, before we willy-nilly go around with blanket condemnations of torture. I mean, what if the guy was really asking for it? It's the same rationale trotted out by serial killers, wife beaters and baby shakers. Why not for torturers, too? We have to see it from their point of view, says the oh-so-sensible Washington Post.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 05:39 PM
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10. Dear m$m; there is a HUGE difference between objectivity and being "fair,"
If you do your jobs right, there's no need to "present both sides."

Ah, the good ol' days...
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 05:40 PM
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11. Journalism went right downhill when they decided they had to present "both sides" as if they both
had equal merit. Disgusting.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 05:49 PM
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14. Exactly. I long for the days of objectivity.
As they say, truth has a liberal bias.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 05:52 PM
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16. Absolutely.
I know counterpunch is pretty persona non grata around here, but Alexander Cockburn wrote a 75% good book on this very subject, called End Times: The Death of the Fourth Estate.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:07 AM
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17. It get's worse ...
Valerie Jarret thinks that suicide is a "lifestyle choice".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9310882
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 10:15 AM
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19. WaPo on gay suicides: "we're working to cover both sides"
What. The. Fuck. :wtf:

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