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jonathan_seer Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 12:43 AM
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More of the change President Obama promised AND DELIVERED
http://www.salon.com/technology/how_the_world_works/index.html?story=/tech/htww/2010/10/11/bush_epa_versus_obama_epa&source=newsletter&utm_source=contactology&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Salon_Daily%2520Newsletter%2520%2528Not%2520Premium%2529_7_30_110">Obama's EPA riles Bush's industry hacks

Something to think about for those of us who are NOT blinded by his failure to pursue our own pet issue of greatest importance...

Also since President Obama took office, our food supply has become dramatically safer for the same reasons, he has delivered a lot of the change he promised.

Too bad neither of these have the emotional appeal of a personal single issue like gay marriage or ending the war.

As important as they may be, cleaner air, and food safe to eat are just as important, and affect everyone, not just a segment of the population.

Too bad for President Obama so few people, even liberals and progressives are aware of just how bad things were getting under President Bush.

I guess the lack of "safety recalls" and the lack of case filed against polluters under the Bush Admin. = "success" in controlling it.

No matter what I feel he has fallen short of this November, I will support him.

Not supporting him is the stupidest, most self-defeating thing any true liberal or progressive can do.

Not because the other side is worse, but because he actually is getting things done.



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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 12:46 AM
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1. K&U for no information, but I feel well chastised. n/t
:rofl:

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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 12:46 AM
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2. LOL n/t
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 12:51 AM
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3. Those other issues are important too.
But thanks for the article. Actions like this that help all Americans don't get the attention they deserve.
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 12:53 AM
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4. YOU USED CAPS...
THIS MUST BE IMPORTANT!!1!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 02:33 AM
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5. WTF??
"a personal single issue like gay marriage or ending the war" - W.T.F. :thumbsdown:
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 02:33 AM
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6. Pet issues?
That's a really good way to demean people. :eyes:

By which I mean, of course, that it's a fucking horrible thing to say to fellow democrats just because you apparently don't really have any issues you believe in very strongly.

Maybe this is a game to you, and winning the election is all that matters to you. "Yay Team! The people wearing our colors are winning! Woo Hoo!" But a lot of us actually care about issue, and judge candidates based on their stance on issues, and how well they represent those issues.

Issues are what matter in people's lives. Issues are what improve or destroy the quality of people's lives when they become policy. The name on the desk in Washington doesn't, except in as far as it affects those issues.
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Smashcut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 02:38 AM
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7. fail
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 02:50 AM
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8. I'm sorry but you must be new here, most of us knew how bad
Edited on Wed Oct-13-10 02:51 AM by Rex
things were under George and complained about it loudly for years and years. Got us nowhere so we all voted for Obama.

"Too bad for President Obama so few people, even liberals and progressives are aware of just how bad things were getting under President Bush."

Sorry but that part is pure bunk - to bad some Dems are willing to play along and LET things get bad under a warmongering, mental midget. For 8 years.

And to think I've been accused of being an Obamabot just because I've agreed in a few posts about something good he did! It seems you can't win either way so screw it. We all knew and the people in charge just kept on playing the game. Of course things are getting better, didn't you notice how bad it got under GWB? We couldn't afford to pay illegal immigrants money to mow our military installations and now even idiots like Glenn Beck call for defense cutbacks!


My disclaimer from now on will be this;

"I support Obama and I am a DFH"

Just so people don't get to confused.

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 03:04 AM
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9. The rest of the story
Turns out there's a difference between enforcing the rules and doing your best to gut them
By Andrew Leonard

Obama's EPA riles Bush's industry hacks
AP
The Four Corners Power Plant in northwest New Mexico.

On Oct. 6 the EPA made a formal proposal for new pollution controls at the coal-fired Four Corners Power Plant near Farmington, N.M. The new rules, requiring the installation of catalytic reduction technology, would, said the EPA, result in an 80 percent reduction in nitrogen oxide emissions, and simultaneously "achieve cleaner, healthier air while improving the visibility at sixteen of our most pristine national parks and wilderness areas."

Environmentalists cheered the move, while the operators of the plant complained about the cost and warned that electricity prices would rise. Film at 11.

Let's put the climate change bill debacle to the side. There really can't be any argument, from an environmentalist's perspective, about the fact that Obama's EPA is a completely different beast from George W. Bush's EPA. As E&E's Robin Bravender reported in September:

The Obama administration is in the midst of a landmark series of Clean Air Act rulemakings.

In 18 months, U.S. EPA has -- among other things -- stiffened standards for sulfur dioxide and nitrogen dioxide for the first time in decades, revamped the George W. Bush administration's smog regulations and issued the first climate rules under the Clean Air Act.

Industry is in an uproar. "The aggressiveness of the rules has taken people by surprise," Jeff Holmstead, "former Bush EPA air chief and now industry attorney" told E&E.

That would be funny if it didn't bring back such sharp memories of how Bush's EPA appointees worked consistently to undermine everything the EPA stood for. Holmstead and his successor as director of the Office of Air and Radiation, William Wehrum, were lawyers who represented industrial clients in their struggles against environmental regulations before they joined the EPA. After years spent attempting to gut the Clean Air Act, they went right back to their old jobs.

If (or when) the Republicans retake the House of Representatives, they've already made it clear that one of their priorities will be to roll back the EPA's efforts to carry out exactly what the agency is mandated to do. As liberals sift through their various disappointments as to what the Obama administration has failed to achieve in its first two years, it might be worth noting that there are nonetheless some very real and important differences between this White House and its predecessor. An EPA that hasn't been handed over to industry, gift-wrapped, is one of them.


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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 03:24 AM
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10. "Unaware of just how bad things were getting under President Bush"
Um, I don't think so.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 04:12 AM
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12. Here are some pet issues, you selfish, tone-deaf @%$!


Do you think the war has no effect on the environment? Get a fucking clue.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 04:19 AM
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13. !
:rofl:
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