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howaboutme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 07:22 PM Original message |
Chilean Miners - better off in Chile or USA? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. There have been some pretty dramatic mine rescues here, too. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. Good point, recced.. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 07:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Actually, it's a very poor point, and poorly researched. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. The point is that large corporations such as BP and Massey don't give a damn about safety.. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
46. That is why they are subject to regulation |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
3. See the website of the US Mine Rescue Association |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
26. OP touched a nerve and you over reacted. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
41. Where was the overreaction? MM linked to a website on mine rescues, and links to other factual info |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:38 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. His replies accuses OP of "hating all things American" & being nasty. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. "According to your logic"-- I think not. Your line about BP et al. reeks of an organic... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 08:29 AM Response to Reply #26 |
44. You are incorrect. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
4. The technology used in the Quecreek Mine Rescue in |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
30. What good is technology if it is not timely required at ALL mines? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
5. Here's an interesting story on that mine in Chile and the lack of safety |
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howaboutme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. You made your point |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
6. Those ugly Americans......... |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:41 AM Response to Reply #6 |
43. So it was a US private contractor who drills for wells in Afghanistan |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
7. They worked for a small, private mining company |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. another ref says it's a "multi-billion dollar company". |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. In either case, a private company with a poor safety record |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Like Massey Energy! Or Consolidated Coal! |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. The OP thought that the Chilean miners worked for a government owned mining corporation |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. You made a valid point, upon which I elaborated. |
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howaboutme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. You are correct |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
8. The mine that collapsed has a poor safety record in |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
10. Are you disappointed more miners don't die in the US to rescue dead miners? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Excellent point. It is, in fact, one of those Americans who flew |
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howaboutme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. I agree |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
29. OP never said anything of the kind;his concerns were with mining Corporations |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
31. as of july, 31 us miners have died this year in mines owned by massey energy alone. |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Exactly! It needs to be timely available at all mining operations. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
11. Its really not suppose to be a progressive value to insult everything in America contrary to facts |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. +100! |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
35. But it IS a progressive value to point out how corporations blow off worker safety. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
14. Upon reflection |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. "May the fail be with you" |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
18. Even if there's no long term evidence to support it, I admit, that was my first thought. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
20. What a stupid OP. |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
21. US mine owners have refused to invest in state of the art rescue robots. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
28. The miners are sueing the mine company, btw nt |
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Freetradesucks (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
33. You have got to be kidding me... |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. You have no real world experience with the bottom-line importance to corporations |
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Freetradesucks (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Every mining accident has vastly different |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Since we've never had a mining disaster like Chile's, where |
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howaboutme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. I wish I was as confident in the belief |
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Panaconda (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
40. Neither |
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