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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:02 PM
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Biden To Democratic Base: 'Stop Whining'
Biden To Democratic Base: 'Stop Whining'



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/27/joe-biden-stop-whining-democratic-base_n_741160.html

MANCHESTER, N.H. — Campaigning for Democratic candidates in New Hampshire, Vice President Joe Biden said Monday the party's base should "stop whining."

Biden attended a fundraiser for Rep. Paul Hodes, who is running for the Senate; Rep. Carol Shea-Porter, who is seeking re-election to a third term; and the state Democratic Party. He said Democrats can win both races if they draw clear distinctions between themselves and their Republican opponents, and he urged Democrats to "remind our base constituency to stop whining and get out there and look at the alternatives. This president has done an incredible job. He's kept his promises."

The event was hosted by yogurt manufacturer Stonyfield Farm, whose president, Gary Hirshberg, is a longtime Democratic activist and fundraiser.

Speaking to voters at a Manchester home earlier in the day, Biden said the "Pledge to America" House Republicans are promoting would do nothing but increase the national debt and eliminate government services critical to the nation's health and prosperity.

Republicans last week unveiled their plan to cut taxes and spending, repeal President Barack Obama's health care law and end his stimulus program if the GOP retakes the House in November. Biden criticized its lack of specifics and offered his opinion on what would happen if the plan was implemented.

"If they did everything the pledge calls for, it will add a trillion dollars to the debt and that would require them under their program to eliminate every program in the government from the FBI to highways and a whole bunch of other things to meet the goals they state," he said.

Biden spoke about the economy to about a dozen voters at a home in Manchester, where he was joined by New Hampshire's three Democrats in Congress: Hodes, Shea-Porter and Sen. Jeanne Shaheen.

Biden said Democrats will lose if the November election is a referendum on how people feel about the economy, but they'll win if they emphasize the progress they've made and plans to build on it. He said he understands that someone looking for a job doesn't have time to track the details of the new health care law or stimulus program, but he said Democrats should remind those voters that many of the benefits haven't kicked in yet.

"We've made great progress, but to the guy or the woman sitting at their kitchen table without a job it doesn't matter – they're in trouble. We owe them an answer as to how we're going to ... now that the economy's been stabilized, build it again," Biden said.
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That answer includes increasing tax credits for small business, giving companies incentives to manufacture their products in the United States instead of overseas and focusing on creating jobs in renewable energy and other green technologies, Biden said. Republicans, meanwhile, have become the "party of repeal and repeat," he said.

"What they're offering is not only going to keep us in the ditch, it's going to drive us back down further into the ditch," he said.

Parish Braden, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, said Biden's trip to New Hampshire should remind voters that Hodes and Shea-Porter "are in lockstep with the Obama administration's failed economic policies that have hurt small businesses, raised taxes and put our country further into debt."
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:05 PM
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1. ... and get to work."
KnR
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 09:15 PM
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19. +1
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:07 PM
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2. The tongue lashings will continue until morale improves..
Now, get out there and vote for us, you owe it to us.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:08 PM
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3. if you do`t we will send the fbi after you....
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:17 PM
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5. ...And we will listen into your private conversations without warrant, shut down the internet
Edited on Mon Sep-27-10 08:18 PM by avaistheone1
at will, and of course the president can name you a terrorist and kill you without trial.

But look on the sunny side and "consider the alternatives".








:sarcasm:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:52 PM
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11. and maybe bring back the Rave Act
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 01:33 AM
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24. Joe has a tendency
Edited on Tue Sep-28-10 01:33 AM by avaistheone1
to say some pretty dumb stuff, and to attach himself to some pretty dumb stuff imo

Your link is a good example
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:10 PM
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4. Biden said a lot of good, true stuff there.
The article title uses the one sentence that will piss people off. Good job.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:58 PM
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17. Biden did say a lot of good, true stuff
One wonders why he had to divert himself to indulge in a little hippie punching.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 09:35 PM
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23. and ever since Reagan started it
it has been an affront.

But I remember watching Biden throw softballs at the Iran/Contra hearings.
He's just a politician.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:28 PM
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6. Joe, you've abandoned your base for a shift to the right and a lost war.
Thanks, anyway. But floating the "not as bad" threat is a no sale.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:42 PM
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7. Speaker Boehner thanks you for your non-vote.
Edited on Mon Sep-27-10 08:45 PM by Arkana
You may think the "not as bad" thing is a "no-sale" but the fact is you should pay attention. The GOP has gone so fucking batshit insane lately that ANYTHING is better than putting them back into power.

Was Biden inarticulate? Yes. Is his message about Republicans wanting to drag us back to the Bush years still valid? Yes.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:49 PM
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8. Oh, it will be a sale. It's just a question of when.
Edited on Mon Sep-27-10 08:49 PM by BzaDem
You might not vote Dem this election, but there's only so much right-wing policy that can get enacted before you start singing a different tune (see 2006, 2008 etc). Reality can't just be wished away like you think it can.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 09:27 PM
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21. Its a sale for many of us. I just look at the alternative and that ought to scare a true Democrat.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:51 PM
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9. Good. n/t
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:52 PM
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10. LMAO.. when Biden starts attacking REPUBLICANS
more I'll start "whining" less. Democrats are angry about stupid moves, bad appointments and continuations of shitty Bush policies, and we get berated for it. Republicans vote against things like oh say, health care for 9/11 responders, pay raises for soldiers, etc etc, and you don't hear shit from Biden.

If the Democratic leaders don't stop WHINING and start campaigning they are going to fucking lose. And it will be the most embarrassing loss ever considering the Republicans gave them enough ammo with their votes against America to ensure victory even for the Dems.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:54 PM
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12. Actually, Biden attacked Republicans in that VERY CONVERSATION. You should read before you accuse.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:54 PM
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13. DLC is going all out to see that republicans regain control of Congress.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:56 PM
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15. +1
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:55 PM
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 09:14 PM
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18. +10
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 09:16 PM
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20. I'm sure the entire registration of this site joins you,
bobbolink, in wishing that Joe Biden's family dies on the streets, capped off with a resilient "Fuck you."

Beautifully stated, masterfully perceived.

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:58 PM
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16. Base To Biden Et. Al... Start Pounding The Republicans And The DINO Dems...
and we might just do something more than mail in our vote.

Quit playing patty-cakes!

:evilfrown:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 09:31 PM
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22. I have nothing positive to comment.
So I'll just shut up. At least I'm not "whining"

Happy, Biden?
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