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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 05:35 AM Original message |
The Cult of the Magical Teacher: Our National Delusion |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 05:51 AM Response to Original message |
1. Very True,Ma'am:the 'Problem'Of Public Education Is The Problem Of Public Life |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 06:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. Doesn't fit their business model. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 06:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Very True, Ma'am: Their Intent Is To Put the Public School Budget In Their Bank Accounts |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Imagine. We used to study the demise of the American Indian. Now its us. |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. exactly |
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whyverne (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 06:05 AM Response to Original message |
2. Reminds me of any multi-level marketing pitch. |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 07:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Excellent parallel. |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 09:44 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. it is exactly like multi level marketing.....never thought of that |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
29. That Is An Excellent Insight, Sir |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 06:15 AM Response to Original message |
3. how hollywood distorts reality: |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 06:27 AM Response to Original message |
4. Marking to watch later. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 06:48 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. it's worth a watch. there are 7 videos: "the real world of teach for america" |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 06:54 AM Response to Original message |
6. Recommend |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
7. Thank you. |
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Sabriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
8. Here's a very telling tidbit: |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 07:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. and some were never in one at all. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
9. Thanks for the links, |
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Panaconda (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
11. K&R |
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exboyfil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
13. As a first pass how about giving teachers/administrators |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 07:53 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. "rubber room"? |
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exboyfil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 08:43 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Rubber room was an overstatement |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. You think?! |
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exboyfil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. I am not interested in NCLB test scores |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 07:48 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. The best model is not lecture. |
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exboyfil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 08:45 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. It may be a learning style thing |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:42 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. It's partly learning style and partly delivery. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. You left out the word "quality." |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. "Disruptive" students are just a reflection of a tired system that doesn't serve them. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I entirely agree. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 06:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. There are alternative high schools. I teach in one. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. Props to you, that's also my background. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 07:49 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Oh, I agree! |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. rubber room is where they put the disruptive teachers. in real life. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 07:52 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Yup. We alternative ed. teachers are a bit different. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. So, in other words, send them my way. |
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exboyfil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 07:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. I appreciate your service |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 07:58 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. And with a lot of extra help, my students can go far, too. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
27. K&R nt |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
30. "Real teaching": Do you think master teachers get enough opportunities to mentor new teachers? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. regular teacher training includes practicum, teaching in a real classroom under the direction |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Might not part of the difference between effective and ineffective schools be the proportion of 1st-... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. the school deform model is to send tfa teachers with about 1 month's training to teach those |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 07:59 AM Response to Reply #30 |
42. Depending on the state, it's required for certification. |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. But does it happen after certification, frequently, without the threatening atmosphere |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Certification is a process. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
32. This is my observation too |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
35. Good post, and a topic that badly needs addressing. nt |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
41. I knew only one in my nearly 60 years of life! |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
47. excellent. Too late to recommend, here's a kick. |
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