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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:19 PM
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Wow... Don't Know If You Caught That First Segment Of KO, But...
Edited on Thu Sep-23-10 07:20 PM by WillyT
Jesus... our Dem representatives in Congress, the Senate in particular... SUCK !!!

At least enough of them to screw the pooch.

:wtf:

:banghead:

:beer:

:smoke:
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:21 PM
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1. Whipped spineless wimps.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:29 PM
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2. Yep... Now Michael Moore Is On...
As astonished as the rest of us.

:shrug:
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:33 PM
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3. Here with ya, Willy.
Edited on Thu Sep-23-10 07:36 PM by elleng
Light a FIRE!!!

Keith may have to read an entire Thurber BOOK tomorrow nite!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:45 PM
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9. We All May Be Reading Thurber Come November...
But thanks for being there!

:bounce::hi::bounce:
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 08:48 PM
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24. Never mind. n/t
Edited on Thu Sep-23-10 08:49 PM by GreenArrow
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:33 PM
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4. Michael Moore...KICKING ASS!!!
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:35 PM
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5. what really ticks me off is that those of us in Red areas stick our necks out
What are these guys afraid of?

I don't expect my senators to do otherwise...but Democrats?
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:38 PM
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6. Keith suggested its the Blue Dogs,
and some Dem said they just don't want to vote on ANYTHING before elections.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:42 PM
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8. I Really Don't Know...
I'm at a total loss right now.

But I honor you for fighting the good fight.

:yourock:

Just wish we had some elected officials who would do the same.

:shrug:

:grouphug:
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:41 PM
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7. They've been beaten into submission by the liberal media
For a year all they've heard on TV is how the Dems are going to get their ass kicked in November because the voters don't want anything the Dems are proposing and they actaully believe that crap.

Forget what actual real human beings tell you, if CNN says something it must be true.

I believe every elected Democrat should be forbidden to watch any of the bullshit that appears on cable TV - Fox, CNN or MSNBC. Instead they should listen to their constituents and not allow the media to frame the questions.
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Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:49 PM
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10. They are too scared to fight
What would happen if we were too scared to vote for them anymore?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:57 PM
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13. Well we'd all really be up shit creek without a paddle
way more so than we are right now. Is where we'll be if you must know
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:53 PM
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11. Sweet - enjoying some serious Democrat slamming!
What would this site be like without it!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:58 PM
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14. Oh Don't Worry... I'm Sure They Know What They're Doing !!!
We should be just fine after the elections.

:evilfrown:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 08:12 PM
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19. Hatin' on Democrats helps how?
:shrug:
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:59 PM
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15. The only thing worse...
... than pessimism is denial.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 08:01 PM
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16. So you support the decision
or think it's politically astute?

:shrug:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 08:11 PM
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18. "our Dem representatives in Congress, the Senate in particular... SUCK !!!"
I don't support this - this is all that's in the O/P.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 08:16 PM
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21. You Forgot The "At least enough of them to screw the pooch." Part
Selective editing is sooooo beneath you.

:hi:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 08:33 PM
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22. Why write in second sentence modifier if you weren't trying to be inflammatory?
:shrug:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 08:41 PM
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23. Because It's Not All Of Them...
It's just enough of them.

And I'm not being inflammatory, I'm telling you how I feel, and seeing if others feel the same way.

And apparently many do.

This is an opinion board, is it not?

My question to you is, "Why are you OK with this?"

:shrug:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 08:51 PM
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25. I'm not OK with this
I just don't flip out every time something 'political' happens in Washington. Been around too long to get overly excited over crap like this. The plan will pass later - it has too. Shame they couldn't make it an issue to beat the Republicans with, that's surely something to be annoyed at the Blue Dog types about. Sadly, we'd have no agenda at all without them and the agenda would be "impeach Obama" from the Republican majority.
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cilla4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:57 PM
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12. Fear is a terrible, powerful thing,
well-used to control people. I want FEARLESS leaders. The only one we have left count on for this November now is Pres. Obama himself. Will he have the cojones? What different does it make if you win or lose, if you can't have dignity in how you played the game...
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 08:10 PM
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17. While disheartened by the legislative branch inaction today
I am so happy about the Patients Bill of Rights taking effect today .

:smoke:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 08:14 PM
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20. Hey... Don't Bogart That Joint, My Friend
:evilgrin:

:bounce::hi::bounce:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 09:40 PM
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28. sorry here
:smoke:
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 08:53 PM
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26. Fear. Why does everone seem to assume
that they won't fight because they're afraid? There are other possibilities, you know, though them being merely afraid may be the most comforting of the lot.
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WonderGrunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 09:06 PM
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27. I've been trying to explain that to the professional lefties
ever since they thought Obama gave up on single payer and the public option. Neither of those would EVER get through the senate as it currently stands no matter how much Obama tried to twist arms.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 09:44 AM
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31. Obama never fought for either single payer or the public option
Here's what a SMART politician would have done:

1. Refuse to talk to ANY industry lobbyists without reporters present. If the industry lobbyists insist on speaking off the record, then it's obvious that they're up to no good.

2. Fight for single-payer tooth and nail, including making a televised request to the American people (a la Ronald Reagan asking for tax "reforms") to send their medical horror stories to their Congresscritters and Senators.

3. Have the DNC (or some other advocacy group) fill the airwaves with stories of Canadians and Europeans who are happy with their health care systems.

4. Do a little LBJ style horse trading and arm twisting. "If you don't vote for this, I'll call you out publicly as someone who doesn't care about the health of his constituents."

5. ONLY THEN, after all else failed, would a SMART politician present the public option as a "compromise" position. "OK, if the free market is so wonderful, let's see if our for-profit insurance companies can be made better with a little competition. What? You're against competition?"

But actually, a REALLY smart politician would have postponed health care reform until

1. Telling the Dem Senators to grow some spine, and if the Republicans threaten to filibuster, make them actually stand up there and talk to an empty Senate chamber for hours at a time. Also tell them that anyone who puts the wishes of their corporate contributors ahead of the needs of their constituents will get a well-funded primary challenger.

2. Revising Bush's bank bailout so that the money would go to distressed borrowers, not to the banksters

3. Instituting a WPA jobs program with jobs for every type of worker. (FDR's WPA even put writers and artists to work. Many of the legions of unemployed people over 50 would make excellent administrators for these programs.)

If he had done those things before embarking on health care reform, the public would have been eating out of his hand by that time.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 09:27 AM
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29. We need more Graysons and Howard Deans. nt
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 09:30 AM
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30. People are acting like field mice, rather than proud , capable, and
intelligent humans. Field mice have no choice. People do. nt
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 09:47 AM
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32. I turned it off.
After the day I had, I simply couldn't stomach anymore of this weak-kneed Democratic majority.

:puke:
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