Blessed are the conservative in Bible translation

[texastoast]

CHARLESTON, West Virginia — The Gospel of Luke records that, as he was dying on the cross, Jesus showed his boundless mercy by praying for his killers this way: "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."

Not so fast, say contributors to the Conservative Bible Project.

The project, an online effort to create a Bible suitable for contemporary conservative sensibilities, claims Jesus' quote is a disputed addition abetted by liberal biblical scholars, even if it appears in some form in almost every translation of the Bible.

The project's authors argue that contemporary scholars have inserted liberal views and ahistorical passages into the Bible, turning Jesus into little more than a well-meaning social worker with a store of watered-down platitudes.

"Professors are the most liberal group of people in the world, and it's professors who are doing the popular modern translations of the Bible," said Andy Schlafly, founder of Conservapedia.com, the project's online home.

'Reworking scripture'
Experts who have devoted their careers to unraveling the ancient texts of the Scriptures, many in long-extinct languages, are predictably skeptical about a project by amateur translators.

"This is not making scripture understandable to people today, it's reworking scripture to support a particular political or social agenda," said Timothy Paul Jones, a professor at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky, who calls himself a theological conservative.


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[GreenPartyVoter]

1. Oh, please. Like conservatives haven't done their fair share of adding and taking away over the

centuries.

[COLGATE4]

2. Prime mover - Andy Schafly, proud heir to "I'm crazy as a shit house rat"

Phyllis Schafly. It's true - the shit doesn't fall very far from the bat

[Sapphocrat]

13. Her gay son?

Figures, the self-loathing little jerk.

[lumberingbear]

17. Oldest son, John, is gay.

n/t

[Sapphocrat]

23. Oh, OK, thanks.

Hard to keep all the little rotten apples straight. So to speak.

[texastoast]

26. LOL

Stealing the batshit reference.

[Salviati]

3. Making a conservative bible is easy:

you just have to take out all the words in red print...

[JackintheGreen]

4. You weren't far wrong

From the article:

"Take the famous passage from Luke: the Conservative Bible Project omits it not only because it's "a favorite of liberals," but because there's some dispute over its authenticity, based on the manuscripts it appears in.

Jones, the professor, said while some early Greek manuscripts omit Jesus' words, others include them."

[Recursion]

7. Jim Wallis of Sojourners famously did that

He published a bible with every reference to the poor physically cut out of the page.

[Kievan Rus]

5. Luke 23:34 is in the King James, one of the oldest English Bible translations

Then again, don't expect facts to get in the way of Teahadist ideology.

Don't expect Matthew 5:38-42 (turning the other cheek and praying for one's enemies) to make into the wingnut Bible either.

[Recursion]

10. The first half does have some exegetical issues

the casting lots for his clothes is in all Greek and Vulgate sources; some sources omit Jesus's statement. The working hypothesis since at least St. Thomas's time has been that the statement is original and the omission was a scribal error. The discrepancy does exist, though.

[Yeshuah Ben Joseph]

6. Let me clear this up, for the record

When I said "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do." I meant exactly THAT.

There is no "conservative" interpretation. It was the conservatives who were afraid of Me because I denounced their corruption of the Scriptures. Just as the conservatives are doing today, most blatantly with this attempt at a "conservative bible".

Sorry kids. I'm not a right winger. Never was, never will be.

[ZombieHorde]

8. Let me fix your reply for you...

When I said "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do." I meant exactly THAT.

There is no "conservative" interpretation. It was the conservatives who were afraid of Me because I denounced their corruption of the Scriptures. Just as the conservatives are doing today, most blatantly with this attempt at a "conservative bible".

Sorry kids. I'm not a right winger. Never was, never will be.


...there, fixed.

[indy legend]

22. Can I get an AMEN

[SalviaBlue]

14. Thank you Jesus!!

[Fuzz]

9. Their version of Jesus is:

[Generic Other]

11. Conservatives burned people at the stake for translating the Bible

from Latin to vernacular English. These men were rebels, outlaws, liberals. They died for true translations not poppycock.

[arbusto_baboso]

12. Once again they pretend to have a hotline to God and feel they can speak for Him.

Those fuckers better hope the God they believe in DOESN'T exist. They'll all roast for being such huge fucking hypocrites!

[Jim__]

15. Does anyone know what Schlafly is basing his translation on?

He's translating from English to English. Does he have any systematic way to track the words from his base (King James Version?) to the new translation? I'm wondering if there is any attempt at serious scholarship here or if it's just utter and complete nonsense.

[arbusto_baboso]

16. Do you really need anyone to answer your question for you?

You already know it's gotta be a complete fucking self-reacharound...

[Recursion]

18. No, he's basing it on the fact that some early Greek versions don't include the statement

He's talking about which Greek versions get picked to do the translation from more than the particular choice of the translator after that's decided.

[mitchum]

24. He's pulling it out of his mother's ass

[davidwparker]

19. Good thing I study Biblical Greek (koine) so that I don't

have to rely on NT translations.

[theothersnippywshrub]

20. The entire Conservative Bible will consist only of Proverbs 26:11

As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

[Recursion]

27. That's also 2 Peter 2:22

I like that citation better for the multiple 2 numerology coolness.

[jmm]

21. I swear I read this in The Onion a couple of weeks ago. (n/t)

[Permanut]

25. A Do-over on the Bible...

what a great idea! Let's also get rid of that "do unto others" nonsense, the "as you did unto the least of these" jibberish, and the sappy stuff about love in Corinthians. Oh, and the part about camels and the eye of a needle - that's gotta go too.


:sarcasm: