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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:57 PM
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Only 50 UAW members attend JD Norman's "informational" meeting in Indianapolis
Edited on Tue Aug-31-10 12:05 AM by Hannah Bell
Background:

GM is trying to sell its indianapolis stamping plant to JD Norman Industries. The buyer, JD Norman (a 34-year-old former Morgan stockbroker) wants wages cut from $29/hr to $15/hr (for current workers, not new hires -- new hire rate is *already* $14/hr).

The 600-plus members of Local 23 have a contract that guarantees they can keep their current package until 2011 -- even if the plant is sold. Taking a 50% cut affects their retirements, their pay if they transfer to another plant, etc.

The new owner would prefer experienced workers man the plant, at least long enough to train replacements. HE JUST DOESN'T WANT TO PAY.

Accordingly, Local 23 voted overwhelmingly (406 out of 660 members voted, 384 voted "no" = 58% of all members voted "no") not to negotiate with JD Norman. At all.

But the top leadership of UAW International went behind their backs & continued to negotiate with Norman, then scheduled a new meeting/vote on short notice. Unfortunately, the membership showed up in force & booed them off the stage & out of the union hall.

But the International & Norman continued to insist that another vote must happen.

*****article****

The UAW and Norman, backed by the local media, are peddling the claim that only a “vocal minority” opposes the deal. They claim the majority of workers are being “intimidated” by these opponents who are not interested in keeping the plant open, but only in retaining their wages and benefits by transferring to other GM plants...

With the assistance of the UAW, Norman has sought to cultivate support from older workers nearing retirement and from temporary workers for whom a $15.50 wage would actually be a 44-cent raise. Exploiting high levels of unemployment in Indianapolis— where the official jobless rate approaches 10 percent and the real rate is much higher— he has claimed he will convert temporaries into full-time workers and might add jobs in the future.

Sunday’s meeting was an indication of how little support Norman’s wage-cutting plan has. Organizers tried every effort to bribe workers to come. The meeting was held at the Lucas Oil Stadium, the home of the Indianapolis Colts professional football team, and workers and their families were invited to walk on the playing field before and after the meeting. An assortment of free pastries, fruits, chips and other food was on hand. Nevertheless, the vast majority of 1,500 seats set up in a conference room beneath the grandstands remained empty.

Afterwards Norman praised the “large turnout” although only about 50 auto workers showed up. There are 660 active workers at the plant. Despite the small number, Norman told reporters that there was “a resolve in that group to get a vote, a kind of democratic process for their voices to be heard so they could decide on their fate and their future.” He continued, “We are going to persist until a vote happens—out of respect for the employees.” A wage of $15.50 an hour, he said, was “a living wage” and said again, “it’s a great opportunity”—without mentioning for whom. When the World Socialist Web Site asked Norman how much he made last year, he refused to answer and walked away.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/aug2010/norm-a31.shtml


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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 12:02 AM
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1. That last line, keeps people fighting.
I will win what is due to me, and do not need to fight for it :)


Although I do agree people should not give into what they disagree with, that is more about perseverance and passion then fighting.


Even a strike is really 'standing' not fighting, It is not going along with what is not acceptable in some situation.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 12:41 AM
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2. more info on what's going on: GM wants to turn the US into a chinese-style assembly platform,
with walmart-workers manufacturing components & gm only assembling the parts the unbenefited perma-temps make.

http://www.factoryrat.com/factoryrat/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=12811
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 12:43 AM
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3. k & r
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 01:44 AM
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4. k
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 07:08 AM
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5. The Union should be ashamed of themselves. n/t
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Gaedel Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 08:31 AM
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7. Sometimes the "union" position and the workers differ
The union "leaders" are "rewarded" by the number of members and the quantity of dues. They would be motivated by anything that maintains numbers of jobs. The workers are motivated by what the job pays them.

Over time, in the union movement, the union leaders, like politicians, respond to other stimuli than the workers/voters than originally chose them for office.

The machinists union in aerospace is a case in point. The union leaders brought the "baggage smashers" into the union to get their dues. The baggage smashers are now the principal voting bloc in the union and will always sell out the skilled maintenance trades (the real "machinists") to get what they want. The union leaders respond to the baggage smashers because that is where the bulk of the dues money comes from.

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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 08:36 AM
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9. That's not really the situation here; the Obama admin forced GM into BK, now runs the company
You'll notice that the admin did not force these sort of austerity measures on workers in the banking industry. :shrug:
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 07:58 AM
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6. k&r n/t
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 08:34 AM
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8. The Obama administration controls/runs General Motors. OP won't engage that fact. nt
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:04 AM
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10. That's because it is nonsense!
Cheers!
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:20 AM
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11. Pretending away basic facts is ONE strategy (talk with the OP)!
Those of us in the "fact based community", unfortunately, have to deal with the world as it is, not as we would wish it to be. :shrug:

This article sums up the whole thing as well any I've seen:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aQ._YJhEj_Jo

The US gov't owns a controlling 61% stake in GM, and appointed it's CEO and Chairman of the Board, Ed Whitacre, someone who admits that "he doesn't know anything about cars". :hi:

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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 03:47 PM
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12. Oh Vinnie...your crow is ready! nt
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 10:57 AM
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13. I like mine battered and deep fried please!
I wonder which member of the Obama Admin. is in charge of these negotiations. Would you happen to know?
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