Susan Ralston seeks IMMUNITY (Rove & Abramoff's Ass't)

[AnnInLa]

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/014182.php

[DearAbby]

1. Oh be still my heart

SING BIRDIE SING.....lalalaalalalaaa


this is getting really good...Set that table yet Madame Speaker?

[LonelyLRLiberal]

2. What do you think about this?

"According to her friends, she has nothing to say that would cause problems for Rove."

I'm speechless.

[loudsue]

5. If she doesn't have anything to say, why does she need "immunity"?

:freak: Does that make sense??

:kick:

[LonelyLRLiberal]

27. Nope, not to me.

I can't figure that one out, unless the friends in question are Rover's pals.

[immoderate]

32. Maybe Rove is innocent and Ralston caused all the scandals.

That would explain it. }(

--IMM

[snappyturtle]

33. I think Ralston has something to say:

"They have targeted Rove in investigating the dismissal of U.S. attorneys, and the Waxman committee sought testimony from Ralston about Rove's e-mails. She was deposed behind closed doors last month prior to her request for immunity."

Waxman may have discovered 'enough' in her deposition that Ralston knows she needs immunity.....and probably a personal body guard! I hope. :popcorn:

[Hepburn]

3. Holy shit.....

....did hell freeze over???

K&R

[Patsy Stone]

4. Aw, ya see?

Now THAT is very special.

Off to the Greatest Page!

Thanks!

[malaise]

6. Great news

What a great week.

[Loge23]

7. With this bunch, the Witness Protection program..

would be a better bet.

[AnnInLa]

8. Just my opinion, but she may be taking on the role

of scapegoat for many things. Think about it: why need immunity if she won't expose rover's wrong-doings? Monica Goodling may do the same thing next Wednesday...accept responsiblity for doing incompetent jobs, but not criminal jobs....but in case anyone thinks anything they did is criminal, give them immunity. Blame everything on 2 women who evidently "stand by their men." They will be the scapegoats, but I don't think the public will buy it this time. Well, except for the mouth-breathers.

[Qutzupalotl]

12. That would mean giving false testimony before Congress

and her immunity would not cover that. That is assuming we can prove that Rove was involved--which we probably can, thanks to the emails in Palast's possession.

Her best bet would be to tell the whole truth.

[AnnInLa]

23. Yeah, that would be her best bet, but

like Goodling, does she serve a "higher power" than the earthly, rule of law? Every thing they do here on earth, is excused by their "heavenly father" because the end always justifies the means.

[diane in sf]

31. telling the whole truth would probably get her killed by this bunch. eom

[JerseygirlCT]

24. I tend to agree with you. And hope you're right about the

public not buying it this time.

[slowry]

9. How about no?

If they can provide serious dirt -- FINE. Otherwise, how about stop handing out immunity like fucking candy?

[AnnInLa]

10. The other side of that argument is that the committee

SHOULD not have offered immunity to Goodling or Ralston without a serious offer from their lawyers as to some damaging testimony their client can offer. You don't offer immunity for nothin'.....but, sometimes the Dems are so clueless, I just don't know.

Wednesday's testimony of Goodling will tell you how the testimony of Ralsto will go.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

11. Her former boss, Abramoff has to be literally "squealing like a pig"

to the Feds. Why else would she be looking for immunity?

[deminks]

13. Bingo! I think this person has a lot to say.

I don't know if she should get immunity, I think she probably needs immunity and has enough goods to make it a worthy deal.

I am not sure she alone was KKKarl's gatekeeper. I remember reading that she would tell ole Grover N. who was callin'. and Grover was the decider. About who talked to KKKarl, that is.

[merh]

14. Keep in mind, the DOJ is in cahoots with the admin

remember the immunity given to Ollie North and how that derailed the investigation into the crimes at that time, it allowed for Ollie to fall on his sword and insulate the top dogs who were truly responsible. It allowed for the mess we are in now, the same creeps skated and were never held accountable.

Great Caution and Concern. :scared:

[Stinky The Clown]

16. She's seeking Congressional immunity, not from the DoJ

[merh]

19. Often, congressional attorneys being unfamiliar with "immunity"

turn to the DOJ to assist. Thus the warning

And, FWIW, Ollie North was given congressional immunity which prevented his prosecution by the DOJ in criminal court.

~snip~

North was indicted in March 1988 on 16 Iran/contra charges, along with Poindexter, retired U.S. Air Force Maj. Gen. Richard V. Secord and Albert Hakim in a 23-count indictment. After the cases were severed and the central conspiracy charges were dropped due to classified-information problems, North stood trial beginning in February 1989 on 12 counts. On May 4, 1989, he was found guilty of three counts, including aiding and abetting obstruction of Congress, shredding and altering official documents, and accepting an illegal gratuity from Secord. North's convictions were vacated on July 20, 1990, after the appeals court found that witnesses in his trial might have been impermissibly affected by his immunized congressional testimony.

~snip~

The most serious obstacle to North's prosecution was the immunity grant extended him by the Select Committees that in 1987 investigated the Iran/contra matter. North's nationally televised testimony under that grant of use immunity, which guaranteed that nothing he told Congress could be used against him in a criminal proceeding, greatly complicated Independent Counsel's investigation and raised serious questions as to whether North could ever be tried. A second and equally formidable challenge was whether North would try to ``graymail'' his prosecution by claiming the need for classified information that could not be declassified for trial.

~snip~

http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/walsh/chap_02.htm

[loudsue]

30. Looks like bush #2's administration is following in Iran-Contra's footsteps.

And the fucking dems are falling for it yet again!! This whole "congress" thing is a fucking set up! And WE are the victims!

We need a revolution.....badly. And we need to bring in the guillotines.

:kick:

[progressoid]

21. "Her request for immunity was forwarded to the Justice Dept"

[merh]

28. Damn, just damn

I hope that it makes it to the hands of a true prosecutor and not one of the political hacks.

Damn. x(

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

18. GMTA, merh. I'm highly suspicious of the other Bush bot, Monica as

well. I don't trust any of these snakes in this cabal one iota....

[merh]

20. I don't trust them, any of them,

and immunity would have to be limited, narrowly crafted to be certain that the truth isn't Northed.

[Stinky The Clown]

15. Holy ................. Shit

I better keep my nitro tabs handy.

[Olney Blue]

26. You do that, hubs. This could be a shocker when she hits the Hill!

[Blackhatjack]

17. They need to nail her down good on what she will testify to BEFORE she gets immunity...

She has the potential to open lots of doors --having worked for Abramoff and then going to work for Rove. I would be willing to bet she knows a lot.

What has likely sparked her sudden need for immunity is fear of the emails coming out.

[merh]

22. "They need to nail her down good on what she will testify to BEFORE she gets immunity."

Exactly and no granting of the broad "use" immunity as they did with North.

[Blackhatjack]

25. I would imagine she will find it difficult to tell the truth, the whole truth, even with immunity...

She has been in the middle of so much corruption and lying it may be hard for her to start telling the truth when her future freedom depends upon it.

[alfredo]

29. Drip drip drip.