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TwixVoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 01:22 PM
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I always posted about the dark side of Target
I always posted about the dark side of Target.... I left my job at Target after I spent years there and ended up in management simply because I was sick of the behind the scenes dirty crap that went on.

Target is just as bad as Wal-mart. In fact it's worse. We started people at lower pay and gave them an annual raise on average of 10 cents. We locked people in the building at night. We had mandatory anti-union videos every new employee (team member) had to watch. I've never worked at Wal-mart, but everything I've ever read of them doing we did or worse. We had people we ended up firing for getting even one minute of overtime. (which, since they were only making about $8/hour resulted in an overtime pay rate of $12/hour.... hope Target didn't break the bank on that one)

Target puts on a pretty face. Likes to make people think it is a progressive company when in fact nothing is further from the truth. I feel somewhat redeemed that people are at least starting to see a LITTLE BIT of what goes on inside that company now....
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 01:28 PM
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1. I stopped going there when that Steinhafel character
cut full time positions, often held by people for years, back to part time positions with no benefits. I'm not going to contribute to the bottom line of any corporation that treats its workers that badly.

Retail sucks, especially at the entry level. People who work in it stick it out for those full time jobs at corporate chains that have benefits. To pull the rug out from under them after years just to parade a few peachy numbers in front of the majority stockholders is just plain evil.

I'll go back when Steinhafel is on the unemployment line and the next guy realizes the employees are the most valuable part of the operation and treats them that way. Until then, I don't care how great their buyers are. I'll go to Kmart, Costco or buy online. Amazon is slightly bluish purple. They'll work.
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 01:29 PM
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2. IIRR target was very pro-life
that's why I stopped shopping there years ago.

I was surprised that any one was surprised they were anti-gay and anti-worker.

ps I read some of your posts about working there - they were good. glad you moved on.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 01:29 PM
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3. I've read many of your postings and appreciate the insight
Where do you feel comfortable shopping, TV? We're not limited here where we live and I'd like hearing your thoughts given how you keep an eye on how these companies operate.

I do my grocery shopping at a union store. But it's the once in a while shopping that we do for clothes and other household goods that I have in mind.

Tia and take care!

K&R
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 01:33 PM
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4. thanks to you and the recent articles, my eyes are open
if people must shop there because of finances or they have no other choice, it's understandable. However if circumstances are that someone can afford to go elsewhere, then I hope they do.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 01:40 PM
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5. I worked for those fuckers part-time about five years ago
this was on top of working a full-time job. I had to quit not because I couldn't do the job, but I was getting shit from this nasty,disgusting supervisor who gave me shit for leaving early...even though this was no problem with management during the interview ( I had to be up by at least 7:00 for my full time job ). It got progressively worse with this b**ch that one day I didn't bother showing up and called telling them I quit ( and the reason being is this piece of shit had absolutely no business being in a managerial position )

I can't even set foot in that fucking place again,oh....and their fucking wages SUCK for the type of work they had me doing
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 01:50 PM
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6. I really expect to hear more stories of job sabotage.
used to be very common when management took away all other options of protest, and workers had so little to lose.
Perhaps it goes on, probably a lot of theft does, but does not get reported widely.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 02:41 PM
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7. I stopped shopping in either now.
The trouble is they both dominate the market so.

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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 03:07 PM
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8. I think you can get the same products cheaper at KMArt and WalMart
and they carry as much "made overseas" as any place else. I never did like their products any better than any place else and passed them up if I could go some place else. Now I don't feel bad for not spending my money there.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 03:15 PM
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9. Never liked Target
Even before I found out what kind of assholes were running the place. That clinched it.

Felt like I got fecked on everything I ever bought there.

I don't go there at all any more.

Don
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 03:23 PM
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10. This is why I don't believe in boycotts
Boycotting Walmart or Target or whoever is the latest corporate miscreant is like squeezing a balloon...the air (in this case corporate malfeasance) just pops out someplace else. It's not going to change until unions push back and compress the balloon on all sides, not just changing its shape, but reducing its volume. And only a union can do that, only a union that is everywhere and can't be avoided by the race-to-the-bottom capitalist.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 03:54 PM
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13. The reason for boycotting walmart is because IT'S BIGGER THAN ALL ITS COMPETITION COMBINED, and then
some.

It's the actor that's largely created the conditions of modern retail.
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 03:28 PM
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11. Daytons was always anti-union.
Grandpa would not let Grandma shop there. I worked at Daytons part-time, (except for management it was all there was)for a year when I graduated from high school in 1969. The year Grandpa died.

They ended Christmas bonuses that year and substituted meeting Donnie Dayton, CEO?. We only had two people who had transferred in from other stores. Women who started working when their kids were grown who's husbands had good jobs. They were true believers and thought that it was OK since it was such a good place to work. They were however having trouble with sku numbers, dept no and class numbers. You had to sign in with your employee ID each time too so it took a while to check people out if they had multiple items. If there was more than one customer at the register they usually asked the younger clerks to check people out and we always had to go get the mdse out of the stockroom for them. But they knew their customers and helped us learn the mdse that Daytons carried. So many people wanted someone to sell them things then rather than picking them out and bringing them to the register.

So things have changed for the worse since it changed hands.

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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 03:49 PM
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12. And nobody knows like one who's been there!
Thank you for your insights. I never shop Target anymore. Those bastards.

Julie
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 04:02 PM
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14. This makes me feel better about working for Wal-mart
The way employees are treated here is awful. I like my job most of the time, but I don't feel appreciated. And the way they treat people is awful, especially older people who have been working for the company a long time. I'm one of the lucky few who is full-time, and I have to watch my time every week so I won't go over 40. I do get a 40 cent raise every year on my anniversary date but that's it. I've been with the company for five years and still don't make $10 an hour. You would think as rich as the Waltons are they could afford to pay their employees better. If Costco can do it why not Wal-mart? And don't get me started on their policy for calling in sick.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 11:20 AM
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15. k&r for the truth. Thank you. n/t
-Laelth
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