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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:06 AM Original message |
Did Scientists CURE CANCER last week and nobody noticed? |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
1. Holy Crap! |
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rubberducky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
2. Is this for real?? |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. my question exactly |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:12 AM Original message |
This was posted last week |
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NV Whino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Bingo! |
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ellie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
42. I have always |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. They only want to treat chronic conditions... |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-01-07 06:21 AM Response to Reply #53 |
82. Then why do they develop so many vaccines? |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-01-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #82 |
91. Because vaccines are the motherload: you treat people |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-01-07 08:32 AM Response to Reply #42 |
88. A belief I share... |
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tanyev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:13 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. The corporate sponsored news? |
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mconvente (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
27. It is for real - actual published paper link here |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-01-07 12:57 AM Response to Reply #27 |
78. The PDF is $30.00 n/t |
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mconvente (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-01-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #78 |
90. Weird - I can click on the pdf and get it fine. |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
4. can we get this on the greatest? |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
7. I'm wondering that too. WHY aren't we hearing about this??? |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
8. PHARMA probably used more money to kill the story as there is |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
9. Saw that too. Been waiting for the big whoop-la. Nothing. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
10. "pharmaceutical companies are unlikely to pay because they can’t make money on unpatented medicines" |
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AllegroRondo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. More likely that they dont want to lose profits on their cancer treatments |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Yep - but as long as the cat's out of the bag |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:26 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. SOMEBODY, will find a way to make money from it |
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John Gauger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
63. They have plenty of pull in the WTO. |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-01-07 12:47 AM Response to Reply #63 |
76. Open-source medicine. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-01-07 01:51 AM Response to Reply #63 |
80. One of the things for which I can not excuse Gore. |
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atommom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #10 |
24. If it's approved for a new use, they CAN get a patent for that use. |
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Epiphany4z (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-01-07 04:20 AM Response to Reply #24 |
81. I thought so |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
57. The drug approval process is paid for by drug mfgrs. They fund the so called 'independent studies' |
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John Gauger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
62. Aprin used to be patented. |
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poverlay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
11. It's likely that anything can be cured, but there's no money to be made in cures... |
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Booster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #11 |
22. Agreed. I've always said if you pay someone to look for |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
43. The old traditional Chinese physicians used to be paid to |
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poverlay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
51. That's a great idea. We should start a "reward fund". n/t |
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Sweet Freedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
12. scientists in Canada find a cure for diabetes too |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
15. That's always the bottom line isn't it? |
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coznfx (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
40. There's nothing inherently wrong with money. |
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Staph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
17. Can we get a couple of gallons of this stuff |
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atommom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
18. It's possible, but many drugs that show hope in initial tests turn out not |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. i realize that BUT... |
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foo_bar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. there's no media coverage because there's no story |
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atommom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Yep. There's nothing sinister going on this time. nt |
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John Gauger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
64. That's what I thought. |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-01-07 08:29 AM Response to Reply #20 |
87. This wouldn't be the first "cure for cancer" that didn't pan out |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
41. even if DCA doesn't work in humans these results suggest... |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. people have been working on that for years |
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eallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
54. How would such a patent prevent off-label purchase? |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-01-07 08:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
83. Please keep in mind what "New Scientist" is |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
19. Perhaps. It must be tested on humans to know for sure. |
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davsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
23. I think the big problem is funding the research, actually. |
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oblivious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
52. Avon alone has raised $450 million in its Breast Cancer Crusade. |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
25. I wonder how long before some Big Pharma sponsored group conducts "studies" |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-01-07 08:15 AM Response to Reply #25 |
84. And single orphan hermits will be conducting that research |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
28. Does Molly know about this? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
59. Unfortunately, once cancer has taken it's toll, it's already damaged the body |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
29. No. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Maybe you should check out the real truth on the fusion story |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Heh. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. I thought so too (the debunking that is) |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Yeah, see... |
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blueDachi (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Not debunked but torpedoed. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
56. Thanks - and gosh I admire your ability to be concise! n/t |
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blueDachi (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-01-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
92. Thanks! I try ... :) |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
50. no, see |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
55. Chemically speaking - if a bottle of RoundUp that |
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Bernardo de La Paz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. If cold fusion was a true wonder then Iran and Korea and Bangladesh would have it. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. My dad worked with one of the scientists who checked their math. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Video on Google (THe link to Cold Fusion Vid) |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
35. I noticed! --Can't get anybody to cover it though. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
36. Keep in mind please |
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mikelgb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
37. FDA will never approve it |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
38. IF they did they need to get it to Molly Ivins - STAT! (n/t) |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
45. I hope big pharmaceuticals doesn't shut this down |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-01-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #45 |
85. Car company execs wouldn't lose loved ones |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-01-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Your perspective is one perspective. |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
48. No clinical trials yet that I can find. That means about 10 yrs before it can be given to patients. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #48 |
61. according to the article it's been in use for years. n/t |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. For metabolic disorders, not cancer. Has to undergo clinical trials |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Ah I see. |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Off label prescriptions for cancer treatment would not be reimbursed |
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Bernardo de La Paz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
49. This dovetails with the role of inflammation and high calorie diets |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. Do you have a link, Bernardo? Having psoriatic arthritis |
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davsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #58 |
73. Read up on the Zone Diet. |
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Bernardo de La Paz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-01-07 12:32 AM Response to Reply #58 |
75. There are many links. Use Google and engage a skeptical mind. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. I've read that. |
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Bernardo de La Paz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #60 |
74. Partly. Part of the reason why low dose aspirin (an anti-inflammatory) is effective |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-01-07 08:26 AM Response to Reply #49 |
86. Inflammation is going to be the key to a lot of disease |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
65. Maybe pharmaceuticals won't pay, but what about hospitals? |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
66. dam near |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
70. no. the pharmas don't stand to make any money off it |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
71. Why d'ya think the NCI just had it's budget slashed? |
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HappyWeasel (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. At least we know what to do in the Black Market if the great pharmacuetical satan smotes this. |
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QMPMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-01-07 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
77. I may be a diehard American from Indiana, but I am so proud to live |
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AverageJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-01-07 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
79. KICK! |
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Alameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-02-07 10:24 PM Response to Reply #79 |
93. donate |
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