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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 09:33 PM
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So, who/what currently operates inside the 2.5 block radius of “sacred ground” of the WTC?
Edited on Sun Aug-15-10 09:43 PM by Bozita
And do any of them need to go in order to maintain the sanctity of that area?

I'm not very familiar with NYC, but I'm sure that there are some pretty objectionable things going on there on a daily basis. Which one(s) need(s) to go?
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 09:34 PM
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1. a strip club, for one
Edited on Sun Aug-15-10 10:01 PM by steve2470
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 09:43 PM
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3. Yeah, I noticed that "Gentlemen's Club" on the awning
of the place next door. I guess tittie bars are just fine for Christian soldiers but worshiping the same god of Abraham in a slightly different way is not.

The hypocrisy of these people is stunning.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 09:50 PM
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5. WOW! I didn't know that. That deserves a thread of it's own.
Someone needs to tell...someone! :D
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 11:04 PM
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15. Yep, a strip club, and a bar, so I've heard -- and if ever the Muslims take over,
Edited on Sun Aug-15-10 11:06 PM by smalll
that'll be the end of both of them. :shrug:

Allahu Akbar!
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 09:40 PM
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2. I object to the financial stuff more, but that's religion too.....
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 09:49 PM
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4. That's only if we buy into the notion that proximity to "sacred ground"...
...means fuck-all.

I'm till waiting for for one of our NYC members to post how many ACTUAL steps there are in Sarah Palin's assertion that the Cordoba Center site is mere "steps away" from Ground Zero.

My patience (like yours I suspect, Bozita) is wearing thin. I'm afraid if I see any more of those RW anti-mosque talking points regurgitated here, I may get myself in big trouble with our rules...
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 10:01 PM
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7. I left NYC about a year ago...
but I lived there for a while and spent enough time down there to be able to guesstimate. If you did it in the middle of the night when you don't have to bob and weave around tourists and other people probably about 800. Midday, twice that at least.

It's far enough that my former roommate, Crys, a RW Wall St. banker would have taken a cab. Can't be scuffing the Choos or getting street-dirt on the Versace, you know. (God, I hated her...it's pretty abysmal when someone that awful trots into your life and starts f*cking your best friend, then moves in with the two of you.)
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 10:42 PM
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12. 0.4 miles. About 1700 steps.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 10:57 PM
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13. Thankyou. Perhaps you should tweet that to Palin...
...as if that would make a difference. :(
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 11:01 PM
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14. I mean, it's not THAT far...but so what anyway?
Just because people died doesn't mean the whole area becomes a shrine where people have no rights.

I made the point in another thread, but it's like ... should cops be banned near places where innocent people were shot up for no reason by police? The sight of cops walking around there might be very emotional for people living there... :shrug:
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 11:50 PM
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17. The protesters bristle at being called 'bigots'
But how else to describe those who make such tenuous connections, as well as the fallacious assumption that Muslim=terrorist (or at least, potential terrorist).

Some may have a genuine emotional reaction that has nothing to do with bigotry, but they still rely on false assumptions.

My biggest disappointment is seeing bigoted views expressed even HERE.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 09:55 PM
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6. Recommend
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 10:05 PM
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8. I think it should be a more specific question
How many religious buildings have been allowed to build in the WTC area since 9/11?

What is the religious breakdown?

The builders of the mosque could have a serious lawsuit on their hands.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 10:06 PM
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9. Didn't someone say there was a strip club there? I though I had read that here at the DU.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 10:14 PM
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10. Let's have a look...
Edited on Sun Aug-15-10 10:14 PM by Ian David
Ground zero‎- more info »
26 Church St, New York‎
2 reviews
"you can still see the footprints of the two towers Never Forget 9/11/01 ..
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=12068112022315078276&q=ground+zero&hl=en&cd=4&cad=src:pplink&ei=a6xoTM_fAabwyAXGw_C7CA

Then search nearby for anything with a letter "e" in its name:



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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 10:39 PM
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11. Dunno where they are now, but I do know where there were several whorehouses...
in the area. It's Wall Street, and you can't have that much money around without whores.

And, yes, there were always strip clubs down there.

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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 11:15 PM
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16. OK, since Strip clubs and gay bars inhabit that GOPer "sacred ground," that means God approves?

Otherwise they couldn't be there, could they?
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 11:53 PM
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18. There's a church that they're trying to rebuild.
It got smashed by one of the buildings when it fell.

St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church. http://www.goarch.org/special/september11/stnicholaschurch/stnicholas/
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 08:56 AM
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19. Here's the list from ABC News. Last night, they had a map showing strip clubs and gambling parlors
as already there.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/gop-jumps-president-obamas-ground-mosque-comments/story?id=11406584&page=2

In fact, within four blocks of Ground Zero there are two strip clubs, an adult and lingerie shop and an Off-Track Betting parlor.

Here's another, longer list of businesses at 'ground zero'.


http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/name-that-mosque-ground-zeros-other-neighbors/19590651
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 08:57 AM
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20. Strip club, OBT, porn shop, fast food
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