I unsubscribed to all of my Obama emails today and

[kohodog]

in each case a box popped up asking me why.

My answer: "Gibbs and Emanuel, because as a liberal progressive I am tired of being marginalized."

How do they expect me to care in November? Yes I will vote, but how can I have any passion after they threw me under the bus?

Sorry for being negative but this is so depressing.

[Dinger]

1. A Sad Kick & Rec (nt)

[flpab]

120. survey that came in the mail yesterday

I not only marked the boxes but gave examples and said NO I would not send money till they got rid of Gibbs, said I couldn't afford to buy drugs so they could pee test me anytime.

[BootinUp]

2. "Hate him back, it works for me"

my recollection of a line from Lethal Weapon.

[pleah]

3. They sent me an email wanting me to commit to voting in 2010 this is

what I said to them:

Stop selling out to banks and corporations and maybe I'll commit to vote in 2010. And stop having your mouthpiece call the left, your base, crazy and that they need to be drug tested. Just who do you think got you where you are?

[Cal33]

78. It's not a bad idea to let them know that you refuse to be taken

for granted, and to keep them guessing. It could help to change them a little.

I would like to see Geithner & Co. as well as some of Obama's right-wing-slanted
advisers replaced. The chances are close to zero, though.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. Yours is anecdotal

but I fear the FIRED UP, READY TO GO... is well gone...


I'd love to see a really well done SCIENTIFIC poll on this. I figure the promise us you will vote stunt today was their internals are not good.

[flyarm]

6. I would bet they are dismal! Maybe the CIC should abide by his own Oath! The Oath of office!

that would be a great concept!

[Kweli4Real]

79. What an ignorant response!

President Obama IS abiding by his Oath of Office.

And for those that were paying attention , he is doing exactly what he promised. <http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/> And for the majority of democrats, that is good enough ESPECIALLY when considering the republican alternatives.

[TheKentuckian]

144. He is in violation of the Constitution with his extra-judicial murder policy as well as maintaining

Bush's private Army of the Executive.

[Lost4words]

148. who cares, why bother, what difference does it make

my new mantra courtesy of the DLC

[Tesha]

150. There's something in that oath about "uphold the Constitution" and try as a I may, ...

I can't find anything in the Constitution about
the Executive Branch being allowed to order the
summary execution of an American citizen.

Everything I read seems to talk about "due process
of law"...

Tesha

[LoZoccolo]

5. FELLOW WOODCHUCKS! Your challenge this week is to get a new person on the Obama mailing list.

Thanks for all your help.

[lame54]

59. that's quite the challenge

[derby378]

86. Okay, I'll bite - why are you called woodchucks?

Did I miss a meeting? Thanks.

[Dr.Phool]

97. Because they're not smart enough to know they're being laughed out of town.

[pecwae]

115. LOL!!

Er, I guess I should say <chuckle>!

[TK421]

134. Not meetings....these days, I believe they refer to them as "covens"

and the meetings are more like seances

[sabrina 1]

135. Pssst, a few of your fellow woodchucks seem to be

doing the opposite. I don't know if they're doing it on purpose, or if they just can't help themselves, but could you whisper in their furry little ears that 'you catch more flies with honey'? Cause some of us are worried that they are driving people away.

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[HipChick]

8. Because McPalin would have been so much better..

:sarcasm:

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[Steely_Dan]

18. So...I'm Not A Real Liberal...

I see. I had no idea. Thank you.

[daleanime]

71. Uh, you got me...

"tell Ma I died with my boots and 'Professional Left' t-shirt on" :sarcasm:

[SlimJimmy]

83. No, but I can damn sure think of

any number of Democrats who would have been much better. And I voted for them in the primaries.

[bread_and_roses]

93. Welllllll ...

....when it comes to money and to militarism and to civil liberties.....the difference ain't much.

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[sabrina 1]

24. Do you want Palin for president? Because as long as Gibbs,

Rahm, and all the rest of the divisive DLCers continue to slam the base of this party, that is a very good prospect.

I am hoping Obama will do the right thing and replace these negative, amateurs and dirty tricksters with some decent Democrats so we can stop Republicans from taking over in Novmenber. He should listen to Grayson, who realizes, smart man that he is, that he must distance himself from Gibbs et al in order to win in November.

[HipChick]

25. and it doesn't matter if he replaces them..

It will be the same gnashing of teeth from the left, so hand the keys back to the Republicans..they are banking on Dems staying home..

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. And the WH is not helping

I am not going to say this was on purpose, but the end result is that ...

Teachers
Unions
LGBT
Progressives

Are not happy.

What happened the last time the base lost their will and drive?

Jeesus age, while you go for the irrational, emotion laden fear card, combined with the rational argument, if you don't vote for them you will be voting against yourself, the base is trying to tell you something

Is extremely basic you do not piss off your base political science not that basic anymore? It seems such.

[HipChick]

34. and will never be happy..

how do you push through a progressive agenda with no progressive majority?

[nadinbrzezinski]

35. Fear card...

when over 70% want a CANADIAN style heath care system and that is off the table from word go... how do you expect people to react?

Never happy... is that you Mr. Gibbs?

[HipChick]

37. Actually asking a question, as to how it needs to function to enact legislation..

see no-one seems able to provide the answer...just the gnashing of teeth... BTW...I had the reality of a Canadian style health care system all my life, its not the day dream people think it is..it has it's flaws..it certainly didn't help my SIL..she died of cancer at the age of 35yr,leaving behind a 9yr..she didn't get treatment in time, and at the end she was left to die. A hybrid system might work..just might

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. Well it is still a fact, and I am sorry for your SIL

that while there they have about a 5% of patients falling through them cracks. we are up to 40% who have NO access. What 'bout them apples?

And I know how the system works. When the President gets involved and uses that political capital, he can get things done... see LBJ, and 1965 Civil Rights Act

When POTUS pretty much says, you guys get it done... don't care how... we get very weak bills. They are better than nothing, but we could have had much more.

By the way, my brother practiced medicine at Toronto General, so I am somewhat familiar with the system. I did my EMS in Mexico, and THAT is a failed hybrid system. Want to compare notes?

[liberation]

87. Yeah, lord knows no one ever died of cancer in the USA...

And all those Canadians sure can't wait to reform their health care system to look like ours.

[saracat]

47. Really? So none of those people EVER were happy? Ever?

What about when we took back both Houses of Congress due to their efforts? Were they happy then? What about when They won the Presidency for Obama? Were they happy? Yes THEY won the election., They are the teachers and Union workers and Social workers and nurses and all those "Professional Leftists " who knocked on doors made phone calls , stuffed envelopes and voted. Some of them did it despite Obama not being their Primary choice but they did it because they had "hope" and they were happy to see a Dem in office.
Unfortunately, no one does that for nothing.Their bill is past due and the WH is running out of credit. These people want to see a return on their investment and so far the dividends have been much smaller than anticipated.
And if there is no progressive Majority who the hell did we vote for in 2006 and 2008? And why were we supposed to vote for them?

[Carolina]

58. Bush sure pushed through everything he wanted!

he wasn't elected and didn't have super majorities.

[liberation]

91. Everything changed after 9/11, even basic math...

... or so it seems. Or was it in 08 when the laws of math changed? It is hard to keep up with all these excuses.

[county worker]

74. The problem with that is most of what is called progressive today was main stream before.

We use to love and admire teachers.

It was easy to join a union.

Almost everyone had health care and decent paying job.

Education was affordable.

You could afford a home of your own.

What we use to take for granted we now call progressive!

We've gone so far to the right normal seems like left!

[Roland99]

75. +eleventy!

[lunasun]

112. We've gone so far to the right normal seems like left!

.....allegedly RADICAL left needing drug tests at that! :crazy:

[Kweli4Real]

81. For accuracy's sake, please let me finish your thought ...

"how do you push through a progressive agenda with no progressive majority" IN THE HOUSE AND/OR SENATE to propose and pass the legislation.

There fixed it.

[liberation]

84. What progressive majority?

Most of the Dems in the senate are center-right, and the situation is not much better in the house.

Maybe progressives should start voting for another party which may actually be progressive. Because the Dems sure as fuck ain't interested in any progressive platform except for some exceptions. But you can use the exception to justify the rule for so long.

The prospect of a GOP victory is not what scares the lot of you as much as it is the prospect of the Dems actually having to get votes by actually earning them. That is "hard work" isn't it?

[GOTV]

96. I don't really think the problem is the lack of progressive successes ...

... I think the problem is there's a perceived lack of progressive effort.

If it seemed the Obama admin/Dem leadership wanted progressive results, fought for them and ended up being beaten back to exactly where we are now due to political realities there would be much more progressive enthusiasm.

While you can keep making the argument that republicans would be worse, it's feeble negative message that doesn't really motivate. Unfortunately it's the only real argument left.

[lame54]

111. nailed it.

If they would have at least tried when they had a clear mandate, we would have understood. We were told from day one ain't gonna happen.

[sabrina 1]

41. Explain what you mean by 'gnashing of teeth'. There is no

substance to that comment. Three members of Congress so far have explained to the WH Press Sec why his whining is so off base.

Who is 'gnashing teeth' just for the sake of it and give an example of what that means. I AM familiar with some of the legitimate criticism which could hardly be called teeth gnashing, unless you believe that allowing Republicans to privatize SS by eroniously tying it to the deficit is something we should just sit quietly by like good little soldiers and do nothing about about because NOW it is being done by a Democratic Administration.

Was it teeth gnashing when we loudly protested the attempts by Bush to it?

I don't know what these kind of comments are supposed to mean, they say absolutely nothing so I would appreciate an explanation.

If the keys are being handed to Republicans it certainly is not the fault of all those of us who took them away, is it? That is a ridiculous statement.

[liberation]

88. At this point it is clear they are in "see which talking point sticks" autopilot mode.

The similarities with the MO of the average GOP operative are just astounding. Heck, the person you're replying to is even using the same FUD talking points regarding the "awfulness" of the Canadian health care system.

If this is the change they were peddling a couple of years ago, they can't keep it. I most definitively am starting to get the impression the definition of change was in part regarding liberals "being abused by the GOP to be abused by the Dem leadership."

[sabrina 1]

110. Yes, I recognize the talking points from the GOP, and it's becoming more

than an impression. You'd think at least they would get some different talking points to go after progressives. It didn't work when the GOP did it.

[indepat]

65. Sadly, that ain't gonna' happen 'cause the people wanted are in place

and that includes Gibbs, Emanuel, Holder, Gates, et al ad infinity. :P

[humbled_opinion]

105. Yeah Palin as President

but wait lets give the government complete control over our lives so Palin can use that power to destroy Liberals and help Conservatives.

I am just sick over all of this.

[EFerrari]

10. Sorry, kohodog.

All relationships have ups and downs. Maybe this is just a low point.

[Whisp]

11. this bus throwing has got to stop

is it one huge bus or a bunch of regular sized buses?

when are they going to start throwing you under a semi-truck? wouldn't that even be worse?

[roguevalley]

14. not if its optimus prime :)

[kohodog]

92. Ok, then how about this:

They threw me in front of the rich man's locomotive, or more simply, they obviously don't give a rats ass about their base.

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[roguevalley]

13. I have to laugh when people go from the point he made to yours.

it so totally logical that if you are mad at Obama you will vote for her. Do I need to add a sarcasm smilie?

[gkhouston]

16. I really can't.

Cthulhu would be so pissed.

[L0oniX]

15. What took you so long?

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. Hey I still get them

for the same reason I get crap from other Interest Groups... the entertainment value mostly.

:-)

[Divine Discontent]

29. ha! I think I'll go ahead & stop mine though, I don't want them thinking I buy the BS.

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. I get them from the AFA too

so you don't have too. This week they have been down right comedic!

Between Prop 8 and that famous mosque...

[Divine Discontent]

143. oh, I bet.. now those would be hysterical! LOL...

[csziggy]

17. Did the same yesterday. I still like Obama but not the people in his administration

That are speaking crap about the left.

I worked my ass off for Obama in 2008, ending up leading a team that raised the Democratic voter turnout 5% in our part of the county. I have no energy to do that again after getting shit on by a*holes like Gibbs and Rahm.

I'll vote, but I will not work on a campaign this year. I thought about working on a local or state campaign, but they do not want my time and I have no money to give. :shrug:

[Carolina]

60. Obama CHOSE all those people who

are crapping on the left. They reflect him and reveal his true persona!

[csziggy]

109. Yeah, I know and that is one of the reasons I will not work

If it were Congress Critters that rode Obama's shirt tails into office, I would work my ass off again to get better Congress Critters. Since I currently have Rep. Allen Boyd (FL-Blue Dog) and Sen. Bill Nelson (FL-DINO) representing me, that would be a good way for me to go. I did contact Kendrick Meek and Alex Sinks's campaigns to offer my time, but all they want from me so far is money and I have none I can donate this year. (Speaking of which, I just got a robo-call from Nancy Pelosi asking me to vote for and to donate to Kendrick Meek!)

But Obama has surrounded himself with the kind of people I would never have voted for, so I am disgusted.

[asdjrocky]

19. Simple, straight forward and to the point. nt

[jefferson_dem]

20. Buh-bye.

Guess the rest of us will have to battle the teabaggers without you since you're feelings go hurt. Shame.

[Dr.Phool]

98. I'm sure they're trembling at your every keystroke on DU!

[PhilosopherKing]

22. Republicans are counting on your attitude

We need a bigger progressive majority if we are to get more progressive legislation. The likes of Lieberman and Nelson hurt us in a big way.

FDR had much larger majorities than Obama did.

[donheld]

23. Obama supported Lieberman and Blanche Lincoln

two of his biggest obsticles. How can we get more progressives if Obama is fighting for less progressives?

[PhilosopherKing]

40. He supports them because he needs their votes

If we had, let's say, 64 senators in the democratic caucus, then we wouldn't need leiberman, Lincoln and Nelson.

[Raineyb]

42. And with 64 there'd be yet another excuse. 51 is a majority out of 100.

This bullshit about a super majority is an excuse.

And it's a damn tired excuse at that.

[BzaDem]

56. Using your logic, a 51 majority is an excuse. We should just pass legislation with 35. Or better yet

Obama should just disolve Congress. The idea that Congress could be an impediment to total presidential control is just an "excuse."

[Wednesdays]

66. 35 is a majority?

Who knew? :shrug:

[nadinbrzezinski]

139. It IS the new math

pushed by NCLB... I knew it was bad, but goodness gracious... no wonder kids ain't gonna get into no engineering school. Them fancy learnin' shcools actually use the old math.

[laughingliberal]

69. That makes no sense. 51 is a majority out of 100. See how that works? 35 is not. nt

[frylock]

82. apparently not in the "real world"

[BzaDem]

147. So what? The Senate has a super majority requirement to move a bill to a vote.

A majority has nothing to do with it.

If you are going to pretend the Senate's rules don't exist, why stop at 51? Why not go to 35 or 20?

I am just pointing out the absurdity of your fantasy world, where supermajority rules that have existed for over two hundred years suddenly don't exist anymore.

[Carolina]

63. exactly

[AllTooEasy]

106. Ever heard of a filibuster? Read the rules of the Senate

...you'll cry. Trust me.

[donheld]

44. He rarily gets their votes and when he does it's like pulling teeth.

[NorthCarolina]

67. Yes, if he supported a Liberal Progressive over a

a DLC'er like Lincoln or Lieberman, he could not count on Liberals to support the DLC agenda.

[AllTooEasy]

107. That's not true. The constituents in the those districts

have large conservative and or independent bases. A solid progressive will not win. America is diverse in it's political demographic. There are places where a Kucinich can win as a demo and there are places were only a Nelson can win as Dem. Kucinich, Grayson, Shumer, all would be unemployed in Nebraska. That's just a fact.

[NorthCarolina]

132. I think that is the conventional wisdom, but don't believe it is necessarily a "fact". eom

[GOTV]

104. he wouldn't need Lincoln's vote if he went all out for her progressive challenger ...

... instead he supported Lincoln and Rahm said it was "retarded" to oppose her.

If Obama doesn't want more progressives in congress why should we think he'd use them if we sent him some?

[AllTooEasy]

108. and the Republican would have won that race.

The people in that district are not as liberal as us.

[NorthCarolina]

141. That's what the DLC wants us to believe anyway. eom

[Carolina]

61. Touche!

Just as he CHOSE Gibbs, Rahm, Geithner and others. They reflect him and reveal his true presona!

[MsPithy]

77. Pithy, very, very pithy.

And, in case you hadn't noticed, I like pithy.

[girl gone mad]

26. Tell it to Obama.

Why does he consistently campaign against true progressives?

[kohodog]

54. MY Attitude?

Did I say I wasn't going to vote? Did I say I'm quitting the Democratic Party? No, I unsubscribed from a lame list-serve while barking at the moon.

I said I feel marginalized. I am not alone. They (Emanuel, Gibbs, Obama et al) need to wake up though and begin to have a clue that if they continue to cater to the monied and powerful they will lose the passion of the ground troops. At some point in the presidential race the money shifted from the $50 donations to bump up the thermometer to the big corporate bucks, large expensive fundraisers etc. Those folks now have their ear, not me.

I have been marginalized and the support I give in the upcoming cycle will be motivated more by the necessity to keep the Republican disastrous agenda at bay and to try to help true progressives get elected.

[liberation]

90. It is funny how some of you die hard Dems know exactly what the GOP wants/needs/requires

and yet the Dems seem to be outmaneuvered by the GOP EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME.

Me thinks chances are you have no clue what you guys are talking about, because all these type of arguments reek of desperate fear mongering. Probably in order to extend the electoral blackmail which has been the only Dem electoral value proposition regarding liberals for ages now.

By the 100th time you guys cry wolf, don't throw a temper tantrum if you start noticing people are catching up to the hubris.

[inna]

137. bullshit and a fucking projection

:puke:

[harun]

30. I'll do the same.

[mitchtv]

32. I shitcanned mine

why take the effort to reply? all they want is money ( I did not feel inclined to commit anything to that crowd.) Now Boxer and Brown that's different, I vote for Democrats

[Carolina]

64. why reply?

Cause it feels so good to let them know -- on their dime -- how they are pissing on the base and it puts to rest bogus polls that progressives are still behind them no matter what.

[DFLforever]

33. Let me hold your hand

:cry: you poor, disillusioned professional leftist :cry:

[Solomon]

52. LOL

:rofl:

[Matariki]

36. You can have passion for progressive candidates. Apathy isn't the only other option.

And we work to move politics to the left and work to get progressive candidates elected. Do you know how the extreme right took over the republican party? By getting candidates at all levels of government. By running for school boards, etc, etc.

[lefairhill06]

46. Progressive Candidates

This is a good point -- the R's have been doing this for 30+ years, definitely not so much for Democrats. When people talk about the "huge" majority this Administration has in Congress -- while generally adequate on the House side, folks seem to forget that 13 of the Democratic Senators are from States that voted for McCain in 2008, and 4 more represent States that went for President Obama by fewer than 2-percentage points. That's not really much of a "progressive" presence -- and several of them have been around much longer than a Rahm Emanuel, who seems to get the lion's share of blame for DLC or DINO-types. While working to elect more progressives, I hope the Democratic base does not do a Republican-style purge of anyone not "pure" enough to be in the Party.

[kohodog]

116. Good Point

I do have more interest in local politics at this time. But I do feel that the administration has lost touch and that is dangerous. It will only be worse if Republicans take over the House and Gibbs et al are not helping with their cavalier attitude towards many of the people who voted them in. Yes they need independents, but if they take the base for granted and they don't come out to vote it could get ugly.

[DimplesinMI]

39. This is important.....WHY?

Guess that one less, like the administration cares........

[EFerrari]

43. Well, what a charming addition to our community.

Welcome to DU.

[QC]

55. She'll fit right in. n/t

[sufrommich]

62. Judging from her blog in her sig line, she will indeed be a

fine addition to DU.

[liberation]

94. With these New Democrats, who needs Old Republicans?

Funny, they loved the big tent when it was to get their foot in it. Now they want to kick out the people who were there before them. You can take the conservative out of the GOP, but you certainly can't take the GOP out of the conservative.

[pecwae]

117. What if someone

didn't pay their cell phone bill one month? Would you care? Not that it has anything to do with it, but I'm just curious.

[lfairban]

45. K, R & U

Kicked, Recommended and Unsubscribed.

[nightrain]

48. It's tempting to unsub. I have been considering that as well, but

there's also something for me about knowing firsthand what the bs is, and responding to them.

[old mark]

49. I plan on doing this myself this morning. Didn't expect them to even ask why, though...

I hope they read their email.


Fired Up?:eyes:

mark

[John Agar]

50. I haven't gone that far.

I still receive the e-mails.

But I don't feel as connected as I used to.

They never respond to anything I write to them, I have noticed that.

[ThomWV]

51. Excellent - Obama said to put pressure on him, and you've done exactly that.

[jimlup]

53. Yeah, I'm pissed too

We need to get the message to the president that we support him but he must not take us for granted.

[Carolina]

57. K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R!

Totally agree and have said as much on all those crappy DNC, DCCC, DSCC, Obama and Bill Clinton solicitations

[Wednesdays]

68. I understand how you feel...perfectly

However, if all the liberals remove themselves from the mailing list, then what's left? :shrug:

If you think the administration is obdurate now, just imagine what it'd be like if all the email they get is from wingnuts and neoliberals. ("Hey, we'll push the DLC agenda...after all, the overwhelming majority of our correspondence backs it up!")

[laughingliberal]

76. Removing yourself from their email list does not mean you can't send them emails. nt

[another saigon]

102. oh for god's sakes

he will remain obdurate towards leftists regardless of what we do or do not do. I believe Gibbs and Rahm have made that crystal clear.

[county worker]

70. I did that two weeks ago and me with an invitation to the inauguration and part of OFA.

For the why I said " I want a public option to HCR, I want the wars ended, I want DADT ended. I want the Bush tax cuts ended, I do not want social security privatized or cut. I do not want medicare cut, I want card check enacted. I want Gitmo closed, I want a real job creation bill, I want climate change legislation passed. All these things were promised since January 20, 2009.

Get to work on the above and I'll be back. Don't call me I'll call you.

[zipplewrath]

72. I had an idea one time alot of us should do it all at once.

All pick the same day, even better the same hour, and unsubscribe in huge numbers. Anyone who wanted to of course could resubscribe in a couple of days. It would just be that we "hit" them all at once right in their organizational gut.

[old mark]

73. Seems like that may have happened this week....I'm getting back in my pajamas now,

and doing my drugs to escape from reality.

After I just signed Obama's electric birthday card,too...

Fired up?
No, taking a nap...
so I can stay up
and watch football tonight

mark

[mckara]

80. I Did the Same Last Spring!

The lack of leadership coming from the White House bothers me greatly!

[savalez]

85. hmmm.

Read this, it might make sense. I dunno. I liked it. Whatever. I don't give a rat's behind anymore.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/08/obamas-problems-with-left.html

[laughingliberal]

95. I won't be happy to see the House in the hands of Republicans but I'm starting to think Gibbs would

In what upside down world is it smart, or even 'pragmatic' to insult any part of your party's base with a tight midterm election on the horizon?

Coming on the heels of him, in essence, conceding the House a couple of weeks ago, I'm really starting to wonder. And I have to ask, does Speaker Boehner sound good to Gibbs? This is like bizarro world or something.

[savalez]

101. Bizarro indeed.

[laughingliberal]

103. I could have sworn I responded to a different post. Oh, well. Sorry to bother you what with your...

lack of interest in rodents' behinds and all.

[savalez]

128. LOL. Yeah, I hit post when I should have clicked

preview. I felt my original post was a bit too antagonistic and that's not my aim here. My apologies for the switch-a-roo.

[crim son]

89. I don't blame you one bit.

It's all going to happen without our input, apparently, so why would we be interested in receiving the self-congratulatory newletters and requests for donations? I'm sorry for being negative too but since Gibbs' remark I can find nothing concerning Obama to be positive about.

[Dr.Phool]

99. I changed my e-mail address, and didn't bother to re-subscribe.

[davidlynch]

100. Did the same myself just now maybe they'll get the message n/t

[jwirr]

113. My whole family did not vote in our primary this year for the first time

ever. For one thing we were pretty safe here in MN - I do not vote in bachman's district. And as far as the governor is concerned as long as it is a democrat I will be satisfied.

[lunasun]

114. The best we can hope for

is that we are being used as bait to bring in conservative 'independents' who are done with the current pukes and don't dig tea,for the Nov election. So they don't have to think they need to get uder the same umbrella as 'progressives'.

Even if this long stretch were true, I don't like it under the bus OR being a shill or pawn!!! The comments went too far and this is not the end I betcha.

[mstinamotorcity]

118. Don't worry

if you stay at du you will still know what is going on. And as soon as one of those repugs says something on tv you will get over this. Because they will eventually say something that is going to piss you off. And this rant will be forgotten. Happens all the time. Sometimes you fell like its all for nothing,but there is no way in hell you can go back wards.And yes you do know what the alternatives are. We are all holding on,and trying to keep it together. And even though we are progressive in thought, are congress is not in deed.Don't worry I believe in November the repugs will have a rude awakening. I don't believe polls that have not asked my opinion.

[Jakes Progress]

119. I called the local headquarters and asked

if they wanted a tired old liberal to do the hundreds of hours that I did during the election. They seem to want me, but my president does not. I'm left with a quandary.

I've done some work with battered women shelters. Loving the one who slaps you around is not healthy.

[fascisthunter]

121. fight for those you feel deserve your support

[trekbiker]

122. did the same... let the house burn down and start over

Palin for preznit... she would destroy the GOP and bring a quick end to our misery. It would be painful but better than this "death by a thousand cuts". Dems and Pugs are owned by the corporations and nothing is going to change that except for a complete meltdown under batshit crazy preznit palin. Country is pretty much destroyed, then we rebuild. The GOP splinters into a fringe neo-facist minority party (republican) and the moderate pugs join with the conservative Dems to form a new conservative party... lets call it the Democratic party... very similar to what the Republican party was prior to Reagan. The majority of the former Democratic party forms a new party, lets call it the Progressive party. Then maybe we can find the "change we can believe in" and in two or three generations America rises from the ashes and becomes the great country we once knew

[EvolveOrConvolve]

123. That's a good idea, so I just did the same. Here's what I wrote:

"As a liberal, I don't feel that the Obama administration takes me seriously or cares about progressive issues. Unless that changes, I will be choosing to cast my vote for another candidate in the next presidential election.

Goodbye and good luck..."

[nilram]

124. d-mn, good line. I just wish I still had an Obama email to unsubscribe to.

[CBR]

125. ...

[Duval]

126. I really do understand how you feel..

but my husband and I have decided we HAVE to support the Dems, because of the alternative. Yes, I've voiced my displeasure and cut down on donating, but we are donating to progressive candidates and we will help get out the vote. I really cannot imagine how fast we'd go down the toilet (yeah, we're on the way now!) if the Republicans regain power. Yes, I am and have been angry and at times, I've considered becoming an Independent. How else can our country get back on the correct path for "WE the PEOPLE", if we all don't pull together!:dilemma: :pals:

[kohodog]

140. Maybe you mistook the point I was making

I came to the Democratic party from the left to try to effect change by working within the proscribed choices that could possibly make a difference. Removing my name from a list-serve doesn't mean I'm going to live in a cave. I was surprised that they asked me why and I let them know. I do not and will not support the DCCC, the DNC or the DLC. Does that make me a bad Democrat? I will continue to fight for truly progressive candidates. But I cannot support many of the cast of characters Obama has surrounded himself with who continue to promote a corporatist agenda and continue with illegal wiretapping, Gitmo, war and who refuse to take criminals who supported and engaged in torture.

But perhaps Gibbs and Emanuel (and Obama) need to know how they are perceived outside the bubble by some of us who worked hard to bring them to power.

[maritzasolito]

127. Good luck to you with the racist Republicans or the Teabaggers!

Which portion of the constitution would you like to ignore now that you have been freed from President Obama? Are you from Fox noise? Gibbs was talking about the media not individuals as far as I can see.

[salib]

129. That is disappointing, and a seemingly common reaction

Working at the local precinct level here in Texas, I am seeing a great deal of enthusiasm missing, with many giving the same emotions as the OP. Granted, it is the mid-terms, but the mid-terms in 06 saw MUCH greater enthusiasm, at least from my small perspective.

We are losing the "do-ers" this time around. It is frustrating.

[BlueJac]

130. I did that a long time ago.......

you have alot more sticking power than me. When he formed his team of retreads I was gone.......the no change was enough for me right away. I can't stand someone that misleads, I would rather have someone more honest.

[maritzasolito]

131. Good luck to you too then!

Tracking Obama’s promises

120 Promise Kept

39 Compromise
22 Promise Broken

81 Stalled

241 In the Works

3 Not yet rated



http://www.politifact.com/ You should clik on the link to see who is/are The Biggest Liar(s)!

[Name removed]

133. Deleted message

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[kohodog]

138. ...

you're welcome

[PA Democrat]

145. You need to calm down.

Unsubscribing from the White House newsletter is NOT "supporting the Repukes". In fact the OP stated he would still be voting.

Wow. Then to veer off into complete crazyville and accuse the OP's parents of spitting on a returning Vietnam vet.

UNBELIEVABLE.:wow:

[TheKentuckian]

146. and I'm livid at you for peeing in your pants at a bunch of racist morons that you allow our crooks

a free hand and have made your vote an entitlement program to not as bad.

And fuckin A, I was livid and don't play the same shit from somebody with a (D) next to their name or because they have a very similar background as I do.

[undeterred]

136. I re-subscribed to Organizing For America today so I can

help to re-elect Senator Feingold and elect a new Democratic Governor for Wisconsin in November.

[benld74]

142. QUITTER!

[KakistocracyHater]

149. I have blocked quite a few people here because of Gibbs & the general

mindlessness, I can't take it, I don't like it, the endless nitpicking is too, too much.