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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:15 AM
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Poll question: Should Gibbs Resign?
Should Robert Gibbs resign as White House Press Secretary because of his remarks to Obama's base?
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:16 AM
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1. Not in my view.
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 08:20 AM by RandomThoughts
But those things are not my decisions. I like the guy.



Staying Alive, Brothers Gib.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHWeuQyFouo
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:17 AM
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2. Hell, I agree with him and I still think he should resign.
It was a poor decision, regardless of however true it might be.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:17 AM
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3. Poorly worded poll. His comments were not to the base, they were to
the "professional left" who feels that Obama = Bush.

:shrug:
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:20 AM
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"professional left" is a made up term...
which nobody can figure out what he really means other than it's an insult of some kind

and he is equating anybody who protest an Obama policy that is continued from the Bush era as "Obama = Bush"

I don't think Obama = Bush but I am not happy with many of his Bush created policies
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:41 AM
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23. Which insulted the viewers/readers
Which also insulted the viewers/readers of those people who agree with them.

He also insulted people who want "Canadian health care", who ever they are.

And he insulted people who "Want to close the DoD" who ever they are.

And he suggested they all neede "to be drug tested"

He was making a broad brush attack against the left, attempts to narrow it down to a handful of professionals isn't going to work because his statements were broad and hyperbolic. You can't claim he was both exaggerating, and being narrow and focused at the same time.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:40 AM
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35. I tend to agree with you.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:18 AM
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4. Yes. nt
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:18 AM
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of course not - his job is to speak for the administration - he was just doing his job
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:18 AM
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5. No
He should be fired.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:18 AM
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6. When a PS becomes a distraction & alienates the base-ABSOLUTELY.
and he's not even that good despite his foot in mouth syndrome.
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mfcorey1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:18 AM
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7. There is no room under the bus for Gibbs. Let him continue to his job and temper his comments. nt
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:19 AM
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8. He'd just move to FOX...
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:20 AM
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9. Yes. A person in that position needs complete mastery of the message and his/her emotions.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:20 AM
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10. No, he should be fired by POTUS
... unless of course POTUS agrees with what Gibbs said and implied :shrug:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:21 AM
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11. Nah.
Thanks anyway.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:22 AM
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12. No, it's not like he broke the law or did something unethical.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:22 AM
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13. There is a larger question coming into focus.
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 08:23 AM by mmonk
Is there a seat at the table for "liberals" anymore and if liberals think there is, are they fooling themselves? This messaging is becoming way too frequent when Party leaders should be focusing on the political opposition.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:25 AM
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14. Yes, immediately. He obviously has strong negative feelings about the part of the
Democratic party who was most solidly behind the coming to power of his employer, and he has no problem with stating this publicly and repeatedly. He does a disservce to the party, the administration and the American people by indulging in this elitist ego exercise.
The fact that he is very articulate and obvioudsly a quick thinker indicates to me that he expressed his true feelings about us on the left- this man has no use for us at all, nothing but contempt for us.

I have just emailed the White House urging him to resign immediately for the good of all of us and, as I stated in that email, he could always find a job with Fox News...

Go now, Mr. Gibbs -- you are working for the wrong people and you are not an asset.

Mark
Lifelong left/liberal Democrat and voter, veteran, and retired Union Steward...everything you hate, Mr. Gibbs.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:29 AM
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15. We all have such days when we are just assholes.
That was just his day. No, he should not be fired. Plus, I like him. And the balancing of that mis-speak may have some positives.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:29 AM
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16. Yes, but only because I don't like him in the press briefings.
Don't care what Gibbs thinks about left. I'm more concerned about how Obama feels on this issue.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:33 AM
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17. Why for being honest? He is right no matter what
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 08:36 AM by doc03
there is a certain percentage that would be unhappy with whatever you do, it would never be enough.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:36 AM
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18. If he were honest he would be calling the teabaggers crazy...
but, that will never happen
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:38 AM
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20. Did he call anyone crazy? Besides that there are some
on the left just as nutty as the Teabaggers.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:43 AM
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24. He equated those who protest Obama's use of Bush policies with...
"Obama = Bush" and said we were on drugs and crazy

I do not think Obama=Bush but, I am not happy that he continues certain policies that Bush implemented

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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:37 AM
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19. Yes, if those were Gibb's own thoughts rather that his essentially reading from a script prepared
for him by Rahm et al. :P
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:39 AM
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21. No - Why?
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:44 AM
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25. Exactly - why do you say No?
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:41 AM
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22. No - Why? I think he condemns birthers for birth certificate idiocy
and no one calls for his resignation
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:45 AM
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26. so now - protesting Obama policies = birthers
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:49 AM
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27. I'm voting yes because now I don't trust him at all anymore
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 09:27 AM by LaurenG
which makes me not trust the President. It's not right to say the things he's said to those of us who worked our butts off and sent money to get Obama elected. So what, now we're just drug addled critics? It's not a good feeling knowing so many of us are just a pain in his backside. Way to rally the base huh?
It really makes me question their commitment to democrats and now I question "who are these people"?
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liquid diamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:50 AM
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28. No.. And they aren't "the base". n/t
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:55 AM
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29. like it or not - the base is insulted by Gibbs words
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 11:57 AM
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40. The base that never supported Obama in the first place?
The base that has continually criticized and found fault with this administration wherever possible? That base?
Gee, can't understand WHY there might be some rancor there.

So no, he shouldn't resign. His words found their mark, he called people out on their behavior and now they're crying about it. That's not cause for a resignation, just proof that the spokesman knows how to use his words to grand effect. Maybe they should give him a raise.
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liquid diamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:15 PM
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42. He was talking about a small minority in our party
that constantly bitches and moans. A minority that is never satisfied and constantly compares Obama to Bush. There aren't many progressives like that.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:56 AM
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30. K&R n/t
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:03 AM
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31. Gibbs is a reflection of the Obama Administration.
Is Obama really prepared to throw the progressives under the bus? Three months before an election?

The progressives got Obama elected. He would not be in office now were it not for the progressives. To allow Gibbs to throw them under the bus and insult them in the manner he did is not acceptable. Gibbs needs to go. (As well as a few others who have been working against the progressives.)
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:14 AM
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32. Hell no. Why should he?
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:49 AM
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33. Fired would be better.
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pamela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:06 AM
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34. Yes but not because of what he said.
I just think he sucks as a press secretary. He always comes across as kind of smug, like someone who is trying too hard to be cool. I don't think he is the best person for the job by a long shot.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 11:00 AM
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36. No. He's a fine representative of this administration. Let him keep talking
so it's beyond a doubt what we're dealing with.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 11:03 AM
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37. That total comes to 101%
Yes (63 votes, 53%)
No (57 votes, 48%)

How's that possible?
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 11:04 AM
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38. No. He should fuck himself.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 11:08 AM
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39. No -- he is being a faithful employee and doing the Administration's bidding
If he had come up IN SUPPORT of the so-called Left (which is actually usually pretty middle-of-the liberal road), then he should be asked to resign.

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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 11:58 AM
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41. Nope. n/t
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