Google-Verizon Deal: The End of The Internet as We Know It

[New Dawn]

A must read statement by Josh Silver: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/08/05-7

[RKP5637]

1. Change you can believe in... n/t

[nemo137]

2. Cnet and Computer World are both reporting that the deal is about mobile access only

and that net neutrality on regular broadband would be protected. The relevant quote from the Cnet article is: "As part of the deal, Verizon would agree not to selectively throttle Internet traffic through its pipes. That would not, however, apply to data traveling over its wireless network for mobile phones, the report says."

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20012703-260.html
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9180192/Google_We_still_back_Net_neutrality?taxonomyId=152

[customerserviceguy]

3. Just reason number 1001

for me to never go back to Verizon again.

[nemo137]

5. I've really never understood mobile broadband anyway.

Is there anyone who uses it as a primary internet source? Does it do anything? I mean, hell, if this is the sop VZN/ATT want to keep their filthy mitts off my internet, my gut instinct is to say "fine, fuck it."

(note: my gut is not a reliable public policy compass)

[customerserviceguy]

6. Once handheld devices are further perfected

I would expect to find some who would use it as a primary Internet source. Thirty years ago, who could imagine that people would give up landlines in favor of cellular phone service, exclusively?

[nemo137]

12. I'm not sure about that.

A phone is a phone. Fits in the hands, you talk into it and people talk back at you. I can't imagine a smartphone replacing even a netbook as a primary computer. Too small, too uncomfortable. I could see them getting more and more common, but not being the main source of information and connection of the world like many people's computer's are.

[Rosco T.]

10. I use it CONSTANTLY on my Nexus One..

email, look up things on the web, access forums (here included), stream radio (Nothing like driving alone, the phone plugged into the radio listening to BBC1 LIVE), note taker, camera, mp3 player...

and if I'm out of wifi range, I can plug it into my laptop and use it as a cell modem...

oh yeah it does ANYTHING!

((edit: I'm on T-Mobile.. been with them 11 years.. no urge to change at all))

[nemo137]

11. But is it your primary?

Right now, especially, it seems like it's a second or third way of getting on the internet, rather than a primary one.

[Rosco T.]

13. I think it's my secondary-primary..

.. I can use it do almost anything I need without breaking out the laptop or going to the desktop.

[Rosco T.]

4. FFS this the 5th time this has been posted and it's been DENIED already!

http://techcrunch.com/2010/08/05/google-verizon-net-neutrality

Google, Verizon Deny NYT Story On Their Undermining Of Net Neutrality
by Jason Kincaid on Aug 5, 2010

Yesterday, the New York Times published a story that detailed an agreement in the works between Verizon and Google that would effectively kill off net neutrality by allowing “Verizon to speed some online content to Internet users more quickly if the content’s creators are willing to pay for the privilege”. The news sparked outrage in the tech community, because Google has a long history of advocating net neutrality. Now both Google and Verizon are coming out to claim that the New York Times story is incorrect.

A report in The Guardian cites a Google spokesperson as saying ” “The New York Times is quite simply wrong. We have not had any conversations with Verizon about paying for carriage of Google traffic. We remain as committed as we always have been to an open internet.”

Verizon’s policy blog has posted a statement as well:

“The NYT article regarding conversations between Google and Verizon is mistaken. It fundamentally misunderstands our purpose. As we said in our earlier FCC filing, our goal is an Internet policy framework that ensures openness and accountability, and incorporates specific FCC authority, while maintaining investment and innovation. To suggest this is a business arrangement between our companies is entirely incorrect.”

Google’s own public policy blog doesn’t have anything on the story yet, but its Twitter account did comment on the matter:

“@NYTimes is wrong. We’ve not had any convos with VZN about paying for carriage of our traffic. We remain committed to an open internet.”

(More)

[Whoa_Nelly]

7. It's easier to believe a rumor somtimes...?

:shrug: :eyes: :rofl:

Google is still all for Open Internet.

Read, please...am already tired of the rumor being posted sooooooooooo many times :::sigh:::

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100805-724063.html

[Rosco T.]

8. Darn those pefky things called FACTS!

Durn book learnin' it's the devil's work!

[flamingdem]

9. Josh Silver was clear on KO, this is the GAME CHANGER, please sign Al Franken's petition! nt