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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 02:57 PM
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Roseto carnival game message: 'Step right up and shoot' Barack Obama
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 02:58 PM by kpete
Roseto carnival game message: 'Step right up and shoot' Barack Obama
Published: Wednesday, August 04, 2010, 12:31 AM Updated: Wednesday, August 04, 2010, 11:11 AM



President Barack Obama during last weekend's Roseto Big Time.
Kathryn Chapman took a trip to the annual Our Lady of Mount Carmel Big Time celebration last weekend, and she was shocked to see a shooting game with President Barack Obama as the target.

***** "I just can’t believe how far things have come that now on church property you can shoot the president and get a prize if you hit him in the head or heart," said Chapman, a Medford, Mass., resident who last lived in Roseto the year President John F. Kennedy was assassinated. She was in town for a family reunion.

Even though the game shows a black man dressed in a suit, holding a scroll labeled "health bill" and wearing a belt buckle that features the presidential seal, Goodtime Amusements President Irvin L. Good Jr. said the image does not portray President Obama.

*****Good reports speaking to two people with complaints about the game. Of one complainant, he said, "She said she was offended by it. I said if you are, you might want to be. But you’re interpreting it as being Obama. We’re not interpreting it as Obama."

more:http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/today/index.ssf/2010/08/post_47.html
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 02:59 PM
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1. "We’re not interpreting it as Obama."
Well it's a black man with a presidential belt buckle and a "health bill" in his hand.

Damn them for adding 1 and 1 together! Course they're confused...it was meant to be pi!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 02:59 PM
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2. "The image does not portray President Obama"
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 02:59 PM by gratuitous
Why, it could be any black man who's signed a health care bill and been president of the United States!

I guess Mr. Good has been around the carny business so long, he thinks everyone's a rube.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 02:59 PM
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3. Step right up and shoot yourself in the foot, Mount Carmel.
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 03:01 PM by Kurovski
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:02 PM
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4. And it looks like they're shooting at the FSM off to BHO's right!
Tolerate the intolerance!
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:03 PM
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5. Our Lady of the Holy Gunners...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:05 PM
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:34 PM
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18. Using the same construction as racist "go back where you came from" slurs is going too far
Please reconsider

Hekate
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:50 PM
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20. as a former catholic
I reserve the right to condemn in the strongest of terms. This carnival reflects negatively on the entire diocese and besides, Religion is a lifestyle choice and RC ism includes all races. An apology and condemnation by the bishop is in order and a resignation by the msgr in charge of the parish is appropriate. How fucking anti american can you get? Not meant as a slur by a specific condemnation.I admit it lacks imagination,
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:06 PM
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So it is Okay if it is just a black man you are shooting at and not Obama..
Asshole Racists... Blatant asshole racists..
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:06 PM
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7. And what is the "Presidential Seal belt buckle" supposed to represent
on this "generic" image?
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:11 PM
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8. Claiming it's not the president -- it's just generally racist.
Charge them and let them tell it to the judge.
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kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:29 PM
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15. Charge them with what? nt
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:52 PM
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21. Might not stand up in court
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 03:57 PM by RamboLiberal
But it would be nice if Secret Service paid them a visit and gave them a strict talking to.

You can be charged with threatening the President.

Ask Richard Humphrey who was sentenced to 37 months in prison for Burning Bush joke.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=446270&mesg_id=446324
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kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:54 PM
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25. The facts are not similar in the two cases. Bush was coming to that
guys town the next day and it could have been seen as a legitimate threat under Brandenburg v. Ohio. Further, his defense was not that he did not mean to threaten the President, but rather, that his speech was protected by the 1st amendment. Far cry from shooting what looks to be an airsoft "gun" at a painted picture of the President.

Further, whom should be getting the talking to by the SS? The carnival? The people who shot the airsoft balls at the picture of the President? Both?
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:58 PM
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26. The carnival owner should get a visit
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 05:07 PM by RamboLiberal
IMHO it wouldn't be out of line. And President doesn't have to be coming to town for a threat to be investigated.

Teen questioned for online Bush threats
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2006-10-16-bush-myspace_x.htm

Secret Service confiscates anti-Bush drawings by 15-year-old at Prosser High
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/170992_prosser28.html

Secret Service Investigating Effigy of Obama
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/04/obama-effigy-georgia/

And I remember a guy who made a remark in a gym (I believe it was SF) was visited by at least the police if not Secret Service/FBI for a remark he made about Bush.
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kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 05:45 PM
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27. Investigate is not the same as charge. Your original comment
was that they should be charged but you have since backed off to a talking to. I suppose the police can investigate all they want and if some 'person of interest' is dumb enough to talk to the SS then they deserve what they get. If they want to talk to me or enter my home/place of business they better have a warrant. Although I don't generally engage in this type of behavior no matter who is the President.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 06:37 PM
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28. Read my post again
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 06:40 PM by RamboLiberal
I never said charge! I said visit. I did say you can be charged. And I said in heading Probably would not stand up in court by which I'm implying if the Secret Service were to charge which I doubted it wouldn't stand up in court.

damntexdem was one who said charge.
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kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 07:45 PM
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31. You are right. I apologize. I did not see that you were not the
original poster I replied to.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:11 PM
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9. yeah, cuz obama is just another black guy to them.
completely disgusting. hope the secret service pays them a call.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:13 PM
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10. Right, it's one of the other black presidents we've had.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:15 PM
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11. And I bet they claim to be America-loving patriots.
Which always begs the question...how can they claim to love America when they clearly hate Americans?

Fuck them. My anger has passed its boiling point.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:19 PM
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12. It's almost worst if it's NOT the President.
Of course these asshole knew what they were doing and how it would be interpreted. However, if they just have a random black guy as the target, that's undeniably racist and awful. If it was the President, they could at least say it's because of how vigorously they disagree with his policies. So basically, what this guy is saying "I'm sorry ma'am, it's not that I hate the President, per se. It's that I hate ALL black people. Fucking asshole.
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:21 PM
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13. Where to begin? This is wrong on so many levels...
That carnival should be shut down, and for cryin' out loud, don't we Catholics (I'm a non-practicing one right now because of the right wing tilt) have enough bad PR without this type of crap?
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:26 PM
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14. Amazing - and no damn idiot at this carnival complained
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 03:30 PM by RamboLiberal
till this good family did! WTF! And how many damn times has this game been setup at other community events? Read one report this game has been in use for six weeks! Sad commentary on that area of my state.

If I saw that at a local carnival I swear I'd be calling the Secret Service, and every damn TV station and newspaper in area!

Link for this idiot company: http://www.jtmonline.com/goodtime/index.html
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:31 PM
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16. Looks more like Michael Steele to me
(with hair)
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:32 PM
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17. Is there a phone number/email address/some way to contact the church/township/carny?
This event should undoubtedly be DUed -- although it looks like the locals are on it, which is a good thing. I took the poll, and 70% of respondents agree with us. The complete report link at the bottom of this article calls the reaction "a firestorm," which is also good. Someone wrote a LTTE saying the "game" sends the wrong message.

They're not all rubes in Medford, Mr. Good.

Hekate
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:48 PM
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19. Carny & Church Website
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 03:51 PM by RamboLiberal
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:04 PM
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22. Excellent
Thanks :hi:

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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 06:44 PM
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29. The church should be told not to use this idiot again
"We're used to this kind of bigotry and prejudice and we abhor it but it's the way of the world," Prior said. "Even the divine father himself is vilified in today's culture."

Good, who has provided Big Time entertainment for 26 years, is "a very decent man, a very honorable man, a moral man" and won't be banned from future carnivals, Prior said.

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/slate-belt/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1280894724309330.xml&coll=3&thispage=2

Uh huh and would you use a carny who put the "divine father" up as a target cause he's a good man again?
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:06 PM
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23. This idiot needs to be locked up with Bruno the psycho as his cellmate nt
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:24 PM
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24. These bigots are everywhere sadly.
Come to Connecticut, the Naugatuck River Valley has too many bastards just like these.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 06:49 PM
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30. Read this - the carny sounds like a smartass
"Yes, a woman talked to me about it," Good said Tuesday. "She said she was offended by it. I said if you are, you might want to be. But you're interpreting it as being Obama.

"We're not interpreting it as Obama. The name of the game is Alien Leader. If you're offended, that's fine, we duly note that."

He said the game was no more or less popular than other games, and complaints weren't the reason for the change in theme.

"Yeah, that's why we have a great country," Good said. "Everyone can have a point of view."


http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/slate-belt/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1280894724309330.xml&coll=3
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 10:25 AM
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32. Hah - the Ahole will be getting a visit or call from Secret Service
President Obama target game gets feds' attention

The Secret Service is investigating a Hellertown amusement company's use of a target-shooting game that challenged players to hit the heart and head of an image resembling President Barack Obama.

Cindy Wofford, special agent in charge of the Philadelphia office of the Secret Service, said her agents are looking into the game and will determine if there were any direct or indirect threats to the president. They will share their findings with the U.S. attorney's office.

"We take these kinds of things very seriously," Wofford said.

http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-president-obama-target-game-20100804,0,5344153.story
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 10:53 AM
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33. Sick.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 10:54 AM
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34. K&R - At least they're not using real guns or darts as implied in other versions of this story
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red red red Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 11:10 AM
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35. Wonder what they would say if...
someone would have an image of "Momma Grizzly" to shoot, with her gun in one hand and writing on the other hand? waa waa waa But its only a Grizzly Bear! hee hee hee :shrug:
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 11:22 AM
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36. K & R
:thumbsup:
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