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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 09:05 AM
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About PTSD...some excerpts. A subject which is of interest to me and undoubtedly to many others.
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 09:37 AM by raccoon
…when the traumatic events are of human design, those who bear witness are caught in the conflict between victim and perpetrator. It is morally impossible to remain neutral in this conflict. The bystander is forced to take sides….It is very tempting to take the side of the perpetrator. All the perpetrator asks is that the bystander do nothing. He appeals to the universal desire to see, hear, and speak no evil. The victim, on the contrary, asks the bystander to share the burden of pain. The victim demands action, engagement, and remembering. (p.7-8)

Traumatic memories lack verbal narrative and context; rather, they are encoded in the form of vivid sensations and images…In their predominance of imagery and bodily sensation, and in their absence of verbal narrative, traumatic memories resemble the memories of young children. (p. 38)

“The everyday play of childhood…is free and easy. It is bubbly and light-spirited, whereas the play that follows from trauma is grim and monotonous...Play does not stop easily when it is traumatically inspired. And it may not change much over time. As opposed to ordinary child’s play, post-traumatic play is obsessively repeated…Post-traumatic play is so literal that if you spot it, you may be able to guess the trauma with few other clues.” (p. 39 (Quoted from L. Terr, Too Scared to Cry, (New York: HarperCollins 1990) 238,239,247.))

…Most women do not in fact recognize the degree of male hostility toward them, preferring to view the relations of the sexes as more benign than they are in fact. Similarly, women like to believe that they have greater freedom and higher status than they do in reality. (p. 69)

(regarding psychological domination) The threat of death or serious harm is much more frequent than the actual resort to violence. Fear is also increased by inconsistent and unpredictable outbursts of violence and by capricious enforcement of petty rules.…the perpetrator seeks to destroy the victim’s sense of autonomy. This is achieved by scrutiny and control of the victim’s body and bodily functions. (p. 77)

The intrusive symptoms of PTSD also persist in survivors of prolonged, repeated trauma. But unlike the intrusive symptoms after a single acute trauma,, which tend to abate in weeks or months, these symptoms may persist with little change for many years…the features of PTSD that become most exaggerated in chronically traumatized people are avoidance or constriction. When the victim has been reduced to a goal of simple survival, psychological constriction becomes an essential form of adaptation. This narrowing applies to every aspect of life—to relationships, activities, thoughts, memories, emotions, and even sensations. And while this constriction is adaptive in captivity, it also leads to a kind of atrophy in the psychological capacities that have been suppressed and to the overdevelopment of a solitary inner life. (p. 87)

…prisoners develop the capacity voluntarily to restrict and suppress their thoughts. This practice applies especially to any thoughts of the future. Thinking of the future stirs up such intense yearning and hope that prisoners find it unbearable; they quickly learn that these emotions make them vulnerable o disappointment and that disappointment will make them desperate. They therefore consciously narrow their attention, focusing on extremely limited goals. The future is reduced to a matter of hours or days….Alterations in time sense being with the obliteration of the future but eventually progress to the obliteration of the past…The past, like the future, becomes too painful to bear, for memory, like hope, brings back the yearning for all that has been lost. Thus prisoners are eventually reduced to living in an endless present. (p. 89)

Like abused adults, abused children are often rageful and sometimes aggressive. They often lack verbal and social skills for resolving conflict, and they approach problems with the expectation of hostile attack. (p. 104)

…In her desperate attempts to preserve her faith in her parents, the child victim develops highly idealized images of at least one parent. ..More commonly, the child idealizes the abusive parent and displaces all her rage onto the nonoffending parent. She may in fact feel more strongly attached to the abuser, who demonstrated a perverse interest in her, than in the nonoffending parent, whom she perceives as indifferent. (p. 106)

(In the grown up abused child) Ordinary interpersonal conflicts may provoke intense anxiety, depression, or rage. In the mind of the survivor, even minor slights evoke past experiences of callous neglect, and minor hurts evoke past experiences of deliberate cruelty. These distortions are not easily corrected by experience, since the survivor tends to lack the verbal and social skills for resolving conflict. Thus the survivor develops a pattern of intense, unstable relationships, repeatedly enacting dramas of rescue, injustice, and betrayal. (p. 111)

(Pierre) Janet described normal memory as “the action of telling a story.” Traumatic memory, by contract, is wordless and static. (p. 175)

“Re-education is often indicated (for incest victims), pertaining to what is typical, average, wholesome, and ‘normal’ in the intimate life of ordinary people. Victims of incest tend to be woefully ignorant of these matters, owing to their skewed and secretive early environments. Although victims in their original homes, they are like strangers in a foreign country, once ‘safely’ outside.” (p. 196)

Helplessness and isolation are the core experiences of psychological trauma. Empowerment and reconnection are the core experiences of recovery. (p. 197)

Because subordination of women and children has been so deeply embedded in our culture, the user of force against women and children has only recently been recognized as a violation of basic human rights. Widespread patterns of coercive control such as battering, stalking, sexual harassment, and acquaintance rape were not even named, let alone understood to be crimes, until they were defined by the feminist movement. (p. 244)

Herman, Judith L. Trauma and Recovery. New York: Basic Books, 1992.


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whyverne Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 09:41 AM
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1. I've been claiming PTSD for years.
Helplessness and isolation are the core experiences of psychological trauma.

Yet everyone wants to treat me for depression, which doesn't help.

It's as if I'm being told that my years of trauma weren't traumatic enough. Well, excuse me, maybe they were traumatic enough for me.

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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 09:47 AM
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2. I think I have it, too, although I've never been diagnosed with it.

I have depression issues too.


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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 09:53 AM
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3. K & R
Thanks you for posting this, raccoon.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:31 AM
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4. I was diagnosed with PTSD...
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 10:35 AM by CoffeeCat
So much of what you posted hits right to the heart of what happens to someone who is traumatized.

Some of it was really hard to read, but the information isn't new to me.

I was diagnosed with PTSD, due to horrendous childhood abuse. I was in therapy for five years and
I am very high functioning now. I have a terrific husband, two great kids, many friends and I even
started my own business. I will never be "cured" but I am living an amazing life.

So, there is hope. Recovery takes a long time though. I've come to look at my PTSD as a gift. It's
a series of coping mechanisms. Your brain helps to ease the pain FOR YOU. I know, as a child, I
didn't consciously decide to become constantly hyper-vigilant. My brain and body adapted to the abuse
and decided that I needed to protect myself and to be ready for battle at all times. Just like the
article explains--abusers are inconsistent. The abuse is sporadic. You never know when it will
happen, but you know it will. So, you adapt to the constant state of fear. It's like everyday
you walk on an emotional land mine--never knowing if today will be uneventful or a big explosion.

Depression can be a symptom--but not the entire problem. When you're overwhelmed emotionally-it
makes sense that your brain would downshift. Deadening the pain becomes generalized, in order
to protect. That's why I never really treated my issues as "depression." I knew the sadness,
lethargy and generally feelings of despair were just a symptom of a much bigger picture.

PTSD helped me to survive as a child. It protected me. My mind did what it was supposed to do.

I think you can examine any PTSD symptom and see it is a gift. It's very difficult, because
PTSD is incredibly painful. When I was in therapy and recovering from the abuse, I literally
thought the emotions, flashbacks and memories of abuse would kill me. The sorrow, helplessness,
rage and disgust I felt were so strong--I felt as if I would die from feeling these things. However,
I learned that those feelings had been stuffed down and affecting my entire life. Now, it was
time to let them go. I was feeling them because my mind was telling me that I was ready. I
was strong enough. I wasn't a little girl any more and I was safe and able to take care of myself.

So, if anyone else is experiencing those intense feelings--just remember that the worst is over. But
now your mind wants to rest. When the emotional pain starts--depression, overwhelming emotions, nightmares--
that means your brain is ready to let go and give you back what you once stuffed down. It takes a lot of
energy to hold back intense feelings and trauma. It's only when you are stronger than you begin to process
and feel.

Godspeed to anyone dealing with this. I am often very upset by how we have abandoned our soldiers. Children
seem to develop PTSD more easily than adults. Because children have so few options, they have no choice
but to become coping mechanisms. Adults have other options. So, for an adult to adapt with these sophisticated
coping mechanisms--means that the trauma is truly overwhelming and powerful. For our society to NOT take
care of our soldiers with PTSD is an act of torture.

Take care everyone. :)


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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:50 AM
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6. Thanks for sharing that, CoffeeCat.

I'm glad you have a good life now. :hug:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:57 AM
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7. I'm being treated at the VA for PTSD. They aren't clear if
mine is service related, but they treat me anyway. Being a disabled vet helps in that regard. I experienced violence all my life, so they can't pinpoint one instance and say that did it.

Zoloft and a caring spouse has carried me through some tough times.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:49 AM
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5. and one more thing..."mentally ill" is a ridiculous term...
Describing people as "mentally ill" is so inaccurate and degrading.

"Ill" implies that something has gone wrong or defective. If I get the flu--I'm "ill" because my body
has experienced something negative and bad. Something that is unwanted and unnatural.

I hate this!

The symptoms of PTSD are a series of very creative coping mechanisms. For example--hypervigilance. If
I did not develop hypervigliance as a child, I would have been emotionally naked and unprepared for every
unexpected incidence of abuse. My mind would have been turned to oatmeal if every time I was abused--I
was emotionally vulnerable and wide open. The hypervigilance was like a fortress around my brain--protecting
me from the next round of sorrow, rage and pain.

If you think about it--it's really beautiful. My brain did that for me! I was battling my abuser when I
didn't even understand what happened to me. It really is amazing. I'm thankful that I had that hypervigilance.

Same with the depression I had as a kid. After so much unpredictability, violence and harm--my brain needed to
rest. It was as if the depression was a protective cloud--keeping me at a low level of functioning. Because if
I had kicked it into 3rd gear and was at "normal" level of emotional functioning--those other emotions would have
been like an avalanche that I could not have handled. I would have gone insane.

I think the mind sometimes says, "Look. You'll get overwhelmed and have a breakdown if you function at a normal
level. I'm going to keep things in first gear for you, for a while."

That's not someone being "ill." That's biology taking care of you and protecting you.

You can take any PTSD symptom and view it as a very astute, creative, life-saving coping mechanism.

That's not illness--it's what our bodies and minds are supposed to do--and it's healthy.
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bring_em_home_bush Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 02:28 PM
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8. thanks for this post n/t
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:15 PM
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9. kick for useful information. n/t
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