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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 10:35 AM
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A Police State You'd Better Believe In
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article26059.htm

August 01, 2010 "The New American" - -When our nation is waging "war on" so many things (drugs, crime, poverty, terrorism), it's hard to know where to enlist and when to defect. Or put another way, when should a patriot oppose his government? One answer, which we may hope is obvious, is when his government is waging war on liberty. The trick, of course, is to recognize it as such, since the government will always claim to be defending liberty when waging war against it.

Thus it is that in the "war on terrorism" our government is building, brick by brick, a new police state, called "Security." Consider, for example, this item from The Washington Post:

The Obama administration is seeking to make it easier for the FBI to compel companies to turn over records of an individual's Internet activity without a court order if agents deem the information relevant to a terrorism or intelligence investigation.

The administration wants to add just four words — 'electronic communication transactional records' — to a list of items that the law says the FBI may demand without a judge's approval. Government lawyers say this category of information includes the addresses to which an Internet user sends e-mail; the times and dates e-mail was sent and received; and possibly a user's browser history. It does not include, the lawyers hasten to point out, the 'content' of e-mail or other Internet communication.

But what officials portray as a technical clarification designed to remedy a legal ambiguity strikes industry lawyers and privacy advocates as an expansion of the power the government wields through so-called national security letters. These missives, which can be issued by an FBI field office on its own authority, require the recipient to provide the requested information and to keep the request secret. They are the mechanism the government would use to obtain the electronic records.


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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 10:41 AM
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1. Yep, Obama is continuing the bipartisan assault on our civil liberties,
And sadly, many are cheering him on, simply because he has a D behind his name. Ah, the power of letters:eyes:
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 10:46 AM
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3. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss...
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 10:44 AM
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2. Who the fuck supports this shit?
Liberals don't want more warrantless searches and seizures.
Teabaggers certainly aren't a fan of government power.

What the fuck?
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 11:09 AM
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7. "Teabaggers certainly aren't a fan of government power."
You don't really believe that do you? I mean, they may say that but they also say keep government out of my Medicare. Does the phrase "if you have nothing to hide" ring a bell?
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 02:28 PM
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9. Their are against gov't power only in terms of well off. They have no problem
with gov't messing with the little people.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 10:50 AM
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4. K&R
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 11:03 AM
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5. Well, if you have nothing to hide, why would you object?
National Security! Or are you some kind of America-hating hippie who wants us all to die in a fiery plane crash? The only way to avert this is to give the FBI unfettered power to snoop through everyone's e-mail and check up on everyone's web cruising. Who knows what nefarious schemes might be hatching at the speed of electrons whizzing through the intertubes?
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 11:08 AM
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6. Exile Nation
With the anti-war camp resolute in their conviction that the war was fought for oil, I decided to investigate the issue in depth for an issue of Newtopia devoted to the topic of “Empires.” It was a huge topic, and I needed help. I asked a Newtopia writer named Guy Herron to co-author the lead feature on the history and relationship between US foreign policy and oil. Guy Herron came recommend to me by a mutual friend, an eccentric expat writer living in Japan named Tom Bradley.

“If you want to write about oil and war,” Tom said, “Guy is about as knowledgeable as you can get when it comes to the Yoo-nited States of ‘Murrica, Charlie.”

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In February of 2003, during the run up to the invasion, we published an op/ed Guy wrote called, “The Bush Blunders.” His central assertion was that, “America has always been a plutocracy but the mailed fist has been concealed in a velvet glove. We think we are free -- we are not, we are just on a long leash.”

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Moreover, he continued, the US has a long history of installing brutal dictatorships around the world who are friendly to American business interests, and decidedly unfriendly to their own populations. He called the Iraq War the “beginning of the Fourth World War, a war which would be fought for strategic control over the world’s dwindling resources, chiefly oil.”

He claimed that when the National Security Act was passed in 1947, the United States turned over control to a “Shadow Government” that consists mainly of the CIA, NSA and the Pentagon. This “drugs and arms running network,” as he called it, was in charge of American foreign policy. He claimed that anywhere in the world you find the American military you also find oil (or other precious natural resources) and drugs. <1>

I had never heard it put quite like that. I was of course aware of the allegations of CIA drug trafficking, but I hadn’t really followed up with the research I started a few years earlier when writing for Reality Checks, so Guy’s assertion at the time just seemed like more hyperbole. The words “Shadow Government” made me cringe, it sounded so tin-foil hatty. My response was just short of deriding it as the rantings of a crank, but I restrained myself. In truth, my internal reaction was closer to denial.

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Operating from this logical yet limited thesis, I cut out all of Guy’s language about the murderous intent of the US, all mention of the “Shadow Government,” the CIA, and the “drugs and arms running network.” I believed at the time that only “conspiracy theorists” talked about those things. Even if it were true, I still feared their inclusion.

Guy was crestfallen. “Ah, Charlie, you gutted it,” he wrote back to me once he read my draft. “You’re missing the entire point.”

I argued back and forth with him that he was “going overboard” with his theory. He said it wasn’t a theory, it was fact, and well-documented at that. I told him I couldn’t publish any of those assertions without proof, and he laughed at me.

“The proof is right there if you want it,” he said. “But it means nothing without the courage to believe it.”

http://www.realitysandwich.com/exile_nation_ch4_pt9

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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 11:22 AM
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8. The assault on freedom continues, more or less uninterrupted
Edited on Mon Aug-02-10 11:22 AM by ThomWV
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