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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 01:38 AM Original message |
So, are you American types gonna get a third party? |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
1. not yet, but Obama is close to driving educators out of the Democratic Party |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
2. Not me. Kucinich is a Dem. No need for third party. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 01:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. what if he started one? |
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nickinSTL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 06:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
32. he is, but |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
4. There've been third party efforts for a long time in |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
5. It takes a lot of organization to start a party. Various social movements are in talks at the moment |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
6. You mean like our own NDP? |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 05:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
28. +1 |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
7. I wouldn't mind the U.S. getting its own unabashed Socialist Party... |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 01:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. There's a municpal party in Vancouver |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
9. Third parties here generally hurt the party for whom the voters would normally support. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 02:13 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. "Our representatives are not imposed upon us by anyone" |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 02:52 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. In that case you use the primary to get rid of tweedledum or tweedledee. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 05:34 AM Response to Reply #17 |
29. When all the corporate money and party establishment back tweedledee- it's not so simple |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 05:00 AM Response to Reply #9 |
26. "Our representatives are not imposed upon us by anyone" |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
10. No. There are none that actually take elections seriously n/t |
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nofurylike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 02:08 AM Response to Original message |
11. by design, in the form of democracy here, added parties always |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
13. We have a third party |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
14. In our winner take all system, third parties are spoilers... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 02:31 AM Response to Original message |
15. on the 14th of Never |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 02:40 AM Response to Original message |
16. The only way to get a viable third party at the national level in the US |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 05:35 AM Response to Reply #16 |
30. +1 |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 02:58 AM Response to Original message |
18. A third party would have to come from one of the two parties splitting up |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 03:22 AM Response to Original message |
19. We already have lots of 3rd parties |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 04:45 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I take offense to your "Woodchuck coalition" comment, sir. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. since we do not have a parliamentary system |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 05:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Well, in that example you gave... |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 04:06 AM Response to Original message |
20. The problem is the Repubs and the Dems are insanely well funded by corporate interests |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 04:08 AM Response to Original message |
21. Under our current winner-take-all system, it is mathematically impossible for a third party. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 04:30 AM Response to Original message |
22. I dunno about that. We're struggling to even have two other than a letter by the name |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 04:49 AM Response to Original message |
24. First we need Instant Runoff Voting |
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Iterate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 04:54 AM Response to Original message |
25. It can't happen effectively. |
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marketbreakaway (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 05:12 AM Response to Original message |
27. Rainbow Coalition, Libertarian, Blue Dogs, Tea Party... |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 05:50 AM Response to Original message |
31. we actually have a sizable one here. they're called Independents. |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 06:39 AM Response to Original message |
33. There is an opening for a third party if it focuses like a laser on one thing. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
34. I doubt I will see a meaningful third party in my lifetime |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
35. People need to read more history. So called "Third Parties" supplant existing parties with some |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
37. We already got one - The Teabaggers |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
39. Different forms of government. Yours enables multiple parties. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
40. Never, ever, ever. The PTB have way too much invested in winner-take-all. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-10 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
41. Viable? Maybe not. But, I'm not above voting for non-violable ones. |
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