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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 05:52 AM
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KGB man: MI5 agent told me that David Kelly had been ‘exterminated'
Source: Daily Mail

The mystery over the death of David Kelly took a further twist last night after a former KGB officer said he had evidence that the scientist did not commit suicide.

Boris Karpichkov, who worked as a Russian spy for 15 years before fleeing to Britain, has sent a dossier to Attorney General Dominic Grieve in which he claims to relay information from an ‘MI5 agent’ that Dr Kelly had been ‘exterminated’.

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Mr Karpichkov, who sought political asylum in the UK in 1998 and now has British nationality, says he met the ‘agent’, Peter Everett, on dozens of occasions while carrying out work for Mr Everett’s company Group Global Intelligence Services, which hiredex-MI5 operatives for corporate detective work and infiltration.

In the document sent to Mr Grieve, Mr Karpichkov says that during one of their meetings, two days after
Dr Kelly’s body was found, Mr Everett told him that Dr Kelly had been ‘exterminated’ for his ‘reckless behaviour’.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1297444/MI5-agent-told-Kelly-exterminated.html#ixzz0ugqYlGtj





Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1297444/MI5-agent-told-Kelly-exterminated.html
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 05:56 AM
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1. we will have to wait to see if this can be verified.
though i'm not sure why mr karpichkov would want to bring humiliation on himself
by making this up.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 08:10 AM
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6. Few people ever believed the official story of the suicide
Tony Blair, the war criminal, would have been capable of ordering the assassination of a fellow Briton, just as the war criminals on our side of the pond.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 11:21 AM
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19. +1,000 more n/t
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 06:10 AM
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2. Did he happen to say by whom?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 07:23 AM
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5. Or Even Which Side?
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 08:32 AM
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8. the one armed man with no pulse did it
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 09:12 AM
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10. That Photo is taken entirely out of context.
That picture was taken just as Dick was giving Jr. a knife to take with him on AF 1 on his famous Thanksgiving midnight ride to Iraq. He wanted to be sure Dubya would have a knife he could use to carve the plastic turkey he was taking along for the hungry troops' Thanksgiving dinner.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 04:26 PM
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22. I'm thinking it was telekinesis on this one.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 06:10 AM
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3. "You will be dispensed with..."
Harrowdown Hill

Don't walk the plank like I did
You will be dispensed with
When you've become inconvenient
Up on Harrowdown Hill
Where you used to go to school
Thats where I am
Thats where I'm lying down

Did I fall or was I pushed?
Did I fall or was I pushed?
And wheres the blood?
And wheres the blood?

I'm coming home
I'm coming home
To make it all right
So dry your eyes

We think the same things at the same time
We just cant do anything about it

So don't ask me
Ask the ministry
Don't ask me
Ask the ministry

We think the same things at the same time
There are so many of us
So you can't count

We think the same things at the same time
There are too many of us
So you can't count

Can you see me when I'm running?
Can you see me when I'm running?
Away from them

I can't take their pressure
No one cares if you live or die
They just want me gone
They want me gone

I'm coming home
I'm coming home
To make it all right
So dry your eyes

We think the same things at the same time
We just cant do anything about it

We think the same things at the same time
There are too many of us
So you can't count

I was lured into the back of Harrowdown Hill
It was me lured into the back of Harrowdown Hill
I was lured into the back of Harrowdown Hill
It was a slippery slippery slippery slope
It was a slippery slippery slippery slope
I feel me slipping in and out of consciousness
I feel me slipping in and out of consciousness
I feel me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS37ZSYOwTA
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 06:16 AM
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4. June 30 - Colleague: David Kelly Couldn't Have Slit Own Wrists As He Was Too Weak
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 08:26 AM
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7. I so hope, Dr. Kelly is finally rewarded (albeit posthumously)
with the truth. I wonder that his family has been so quiet. That alone tells me that there must be truth to the story and that his suicide is (as I have always believed) a poor cover-up for murder. How incredibly tragic for his family. To the extent they know or suspect the truth, their lives must be not unlike that of the Kennedys after the brutal murder of first, John and then Bobby.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 08:50 AM
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9. And speaking of mysterious and untimely deaths...
...it would seem too many knew too much and it was making criminals in high places nervous:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6063996&mesg_id=6069350
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 09:15 AM
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11. i believe the term they were looking for was "suicided"...
K&R
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Snarkoleptic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 09:53 AM
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12. When will the dossier be released on the suiciding of the DC madam?
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 07:34 AM
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34. And Raymond Lemme?
That one has always bugged the hell out of me. Lemme was about to pull the plug and expose the theft of the election.
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 09:55 AM
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13. I feel like we're back in the cold war, with all these Russian spies. n/t
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 04:13 PM
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21. Just because the USSR went away...
didn't mean the intelligence apparatus would, too. The KGB was the world class when it came to infiltration- the agency name changed, but the people didn't.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:54 AM
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29. Well, this happens to be one who thinks we're interested in truth . . . dum de dum dum....
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 10:02 AM
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14. I thought this was a suspicious death at the time.....this would NOT surprise me.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 10:23 AM
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15. connect the dots
One of Dr. Kelly's last e-mails was to Judy Miller friend of Scooter Libby who worked for Dick Cheney.

Cheney was going to make the war happen no matter what.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 10:33 AM
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16. David Kelly, like Don Siegelman, won't be getting justice!
... for similar reasons. Likely getting justice for theae two will mean that the likes of Karl Rove and Bushco will get "justice" as well, where "deals have been cut" to keep these people immune from prosecution.

At least Don Siegelman is still alive so that he can continue to raise hell. Hopefully if he can somehow break through, David Kelly can also have justice served in his case too once the truth starts coming out. Perhaps Michael Connell at that point will also have his death looked at too then.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 11:33 AM
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20. minor coincidence!
:sarcasm: just like Ken Blackwell's connection to kkarl & bu$h junta.

:hi:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 10:36 AM
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17. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, JohnnyCanuck.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 10:49 AM
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18. It's a game to some. nm
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 04:47 PM
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23. Dr Kellly's first daughter was getting married that August of his death, he did not kill himself..
Edited on Sun Jul-25-10 05:42 PM by flyarm
He had told many people how excited he was that his daughter was getting married..he was to walk his dughter down the isle and give her away..he had told numerous people he wished he could go back to Iraq ..but he could not as his daughter was getting married..

No good dad would ever commit suicide before his daughters wedding..I don't give a shit who says he did..he didn't!

The last person Dr Kelly communicated with besides telling his wife he was going for a walk was NYTimes Judith Miller..he had email communication with her.

Remember this ..Judith Miller was also taken to see the torture of one of Bin Laden's leaders..( sorry I can't find the story in my files) and she was the main propagandists in the lead up and the beginning of the war in Iraq.

The Lead investigator in the Dr Kelly murder..was Hutton..Hutton is the same scum bucket who did Diana's investigation..

BBC ran a story that was on UTUBE but now removed ..called the following.


Conspiracy Files: Dr David Kelly

BBC STORY

I believe it was in 2007
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 05:05 PM
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26. The same Judith Miller who stayed quiet for Scooter Libby
Oh what tangled webs we weave.....:evilfrown:
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 04:53 PM
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24. Kelly could have
stopped the illegal war....or at least thrown a wrench into their pack of lies.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 04:54 PM
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25.  Dr David Kelly’s postmortem report must be released
One of the first things to settle is the death of the UN weapons inspector in Iraq, Dr David Kelly, who was hounded by the Blair government for correctly saying that its propaganda in selling the Iraq war was “sexed up”. He was then found dead near his home, having allegedly committed suicide. The circumstances are suspicious and his postmortem report is secret.

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The facts of Dr Kelly’s death are contained in his post-mortem report. I, along with many other people, want to know what is in it. Nor is Mr Mangold a medical practitioner. If seven medical doctors state that it is extremely unlikely that anyone can die from a severed ulnar artery, it is very close to a fact that Dr Kelly’s death was not from this cause and is good enough to justify their request for release of his postmortem report – which should not be secret in any case. The government constantly reduces our privacy on the basis that if we are innocent of wrong-doing we have nothing to hide. So will our new government continue to hide the facts?

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This matter is a straightforward test of the Cameron-Clegg government’s honesty which needs to be established following the lies and deceit of the Brown-Blair government. On the record of our politicians’ vote for the illegal Iraq war, it is no longer possible to accept any government as honest until proven deceitful.

Having been elected on a platform of support for the Afghanistan-Pakistan war, the successor to the Iraq war and with as little legitimacy, this government’s credentials have been poor from the beginning. Unhappily they are unlikely to improve. Judging by our “unapologetic pro-American” prime minister’s recent acceptance of the UK’s “junior parnership” to the United States, by his statement in the Wall Street Journal, we may expect the Cameron-Clegg government to continue to support US aggressive warfare, kidnapping, torture and assassination world-wide as well as the misuse of the UK’s armed forces in war crimes. To what end? Whatever our politicians’ reasons they have nothing to do with the best interests of the UK and its citizens. Particularly if the assassination of a UK citizen on UK territory might be part of this “special relationship” of fawning subservience.

http://www.redress.cc/global/cking20100726
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 05:18 PM
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27. Ain't a doubt in my mind. Not one.
:kick:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:02 AM
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28. k to read later. n/t
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:55 AM
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30. K&R
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:55 AM
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31. Doubt that's much of a surprise to anyone who knows anything of the circumstances . . .
but, some day would be interesting to see especially this case overturned officially.

Otoh, we're still waiting to see Warren Commission Report overturned -- !!

And quite a few other right wing political assassinations --

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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:24 AM
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32. i sure hope Obama doesn't investigate...
because I really want to get something I hope for.
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western mass Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 06:15 AM
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33. We already have proof of his murder
the fact that the British govt sealed his post-mortem records for 70 years says all you need to know.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 08:13 AM
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35. Too damn true. (n/t)
:-(
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 10:11 AM
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36. I believe if and when the truth finally comes out it won't be from this country
Again, this is the PNAC plan and we are to keep our mouthes shut and pour any and all our money (what's left) into corporate pockets to fight bogus wars. Sometimes I think all of these wealthy sociopathic fat cats came together (Bin Ladens, Bush family, House of Saud-Carlyle Group) and came up with a scheme to funnel money into various global corporations (make a killing) while allowing said corporations to steal resources using our money and our lives, while further fracturing this country.

Look how far down the road we've come since 9/11? And, the so-called fourth estate has become nothing but a corporate tool further dividing and promoting war. It's fear, fear, fear and hate, hate, hate.

And, just like the BCCI, Iran-Contra, no one is held accountable, and then the same old shite hits us again, except worse-same old sociopaths. And, those who have lost their lives; journalists, truth tellers, scientists, politicians who would expose the scam perpetrated on the people, are silenced. I hope and pray the truth will be exposed in my lifetime.
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