Will Democrats cave in and extend Bush tax cuts on people

[doc03]

making over 250,000?

[tabatha]

1. NOT if Nancy Pelosi has anything to do with it.

[dflprincess]

6. Yeah, just remember how she stood firm for the public option n/t

[tabatha]

7. She resurrected health care when it seemed to be dead.

Don't forget.

She could not do a public option without the votes!

If only her vote counted then we would have a public option.

[dflprincess]

9. She said no bill would leave the House without a public option

She caved in and we got stuck with the Insurance Company Profit Protection Act. A bill that Rahm has crowed about because it keeps the private, for profit parasites in charge of our access to care.

I don't have a lot of hope that Pelosi will stand firm on this either.

[tabatha]

10. Do you understand numbers of votes?

[dflprincess]

11. To understand actually standing up and fighting for something?

If they didn't have the votes for actual reform the bill should have died.

I don't appreciate being sold out to the insurance companies and there was no excuse for that happening.

[panzerfaust]

20. Do you understand defending values, and being true to what you said?

[xchrom]

2. I don't know and I wish I did. Nt

[metapunditedgy]

3. Can we agree that it would be DESPICABLE if they did, or do we

need to allow for another bout of pragmatism?

[Sebastian Doyle]

4. Given everything else they have caved in on in the last 10 years

Would anybody be surprised? :evilfrown:

[doc03]

5. Myself I think they will too. The Republicans

are sure pushing back on it, every time I turn on the TV, radio or open a paper I see we have to extend the Bush tax cuts.

[Curmudgeoness]

8. I voted yes, but sure hope I'm wrong. Just seems that they are

caving on too many issues and I am losing hope.

[Nite Owl]

12. Me too

just from past experience but hoping they will stand for something eventually. Batting 0 so far but with the election coming maybe they will vote against it, might give them some focus.

[elocs]

13. The best predictor of the future is past history.

"Democrats" and "cave-in" are practically synonymous.

[Zhade]

14. It wouldn't surprise me.

NT!

[flvegan]

15. Probably. Dry powder stays dry.

Really dry. So dry.

Hope I'm wrong, I really really do.

[TheCowsCameHome]

16. I think so. n/t

[Bandit]

17. If they do I will NEVER cast a vote their way again.

I will just withdraw from the political scene and let other folks worry about it..Because my votes will have been proved meaningless.

[Curmudgeoness]

19. I understand your anger, but...

are you willing to have RW extremists running the country. This is a Catch-22.

On the other side of it though, I suppose that my life on a day-to-day basis is no different today than it was when Bush or Clinton or Bush or Reagan were in office. Ups and downs, just surviving. Oh oh, I am starting to feel like you do!

[panzerfaust]

21. The choice now is only Repub or Repub-lite.

Washington was right in his warnings about the party system (as was Eisenhower in his about the military-industrial complex).

The progressive wing of the Democratic Party is as dis-owned and dis-empowered by its party to the same degree that the repressive wing of the Republican Party is embraced and empowered by its party.

Given that, as you admit, on a day-to-day basis there seems no Change from the previous administration why not just bite the bullet and join the Socialists (or even those further left)?

If enough people did, then the left might have some real power - then there might be a prospect of real change: Not Change you have to Believe in - but Change that you can see.

Workers of the World ...

[Curmudgeoness]

27. As long as the Socialist party or the Green party or whatever

have not got a chance in hell of getting anywhere, I cannot in good conscience, throw my vote at them. Don't get me wrong, I consider myself a socialist (I noticed your quote by Sinclair Lewis), and yes, we are disowned. But I cannot be part of the reason that Repubs take this country away from us. They are the party preaching pray in school (Christian pray at that), they are the party who are taking freedoms from us (unless we are Teabaggers, and then we get a pass). I know that the Dems are at least leaning in my direction more than the Repubs are. We all have such differing opinions of everything (read any link on DU just for the Dem differences), and not one of us will be completely happy with decisions made. I will go with the party that is more in line with me AND has the ability to get elected. Call me a sellout, but I have to measure every side of this.

[JoePhilly]

18. The same way they didn't extend unemployment benefits ....

:sarcasm:

[quinnox]

22. If they do it will prove they should lose their jobs in Nov.

I would imagine even the most die-hard and zealous Obama supporter would have a problem with this one... I would hope...

[tritsofme]

23. Would not be surprised to see a one or two year extentsion of these cuts

while simultaneously making the middle class tax cuts either permanent or extended for a longer period of time than the tax cuts for the rich.

This will make the issue solely about the expiring tax cuts for the rich when it comes up again perhaps in 2012, as the middle class tax breaks will no longer be in play. This would give Democrats better control of the narrative than they have today with all rates reverting to 2000 levels without any action by the end of the year.

[Imagevision]

24. I believe thisn't a party issue, the rich stay rich and that's all that is written...

[Arkana]

25. No. Senate Democrats proposed it and if Tim Geithner is backing it,

it means they view it as a politically smart move (in addition to being the right thing to do).

They're not stupid and they know what it would mean to cave on this thing.

[HughBeaumont]

26. No.

The tax cuts were and still are an enormously unpopular piece of shit (except to TeaDouchers who think they'll be rich someday) from the Bush administration that's blasting bigger holes in the debt every day. It's not even that big an increase; it isn't like the TMTR is going to 45-50% or anything. I really don't see what the big damned deal is either way. With their accountants, the wealthy likely aren't going to miss a drop.

[MilesColtrane]

28. No