My incident with a tea-bagger this morning (at Publix-Grocery store)

[BlueJazz]

I'll try to make this short..

So I'm in line at checkout with several items...Cashier is having trouble with his register...no big deal.
Woman behind me says: "These prices are getting higher and higher..ect"....Those Liberals are going to break us all"

I turn around and she has Flags and crap all over her blouse Plus a Tea emblem. (I think to myself..oh brother..Hold your temper,
Bluejazz...don't start some nasty scene.)

But I thought I would, at least, let her know that I'm a Liberal....so I says "Well, I listen to The Daily Show and Colbert Reports".

To my surprise, she says "Oh, I watch that Colbert guy all the time...He's a true Patriot and A Real American" !!....and she goes
on and on and on about what he says is SO true. (I'm standing there thinking....W.T.F ????)

And then it finally dawns on me...."Dear God...this idiot has NO idea that his show is Satire...She thinks he REALLY feels that way about our Country"
I didn't say much more.

So this is what we have to overcome...Total, Complete, Fucking Ignorance of even the most simplest human interaction.

As I left the store, I was thinking....and this person Votes...Sigh..

[rfranklin]

1. What's that syndrome where people are too stupid to know they are stupid?

She could be the poster child for whatever its called.

[gateley]

4. Teabagger Syndrome nt

[fishbulb703]

18. It's not a syndrome, its a statistical trend, if I know what you're getting at.

Stupid people (tend to) rate themselves more competent than they are and smart people (tend to) rate themselves less competent than they are.

So, stupid people will tend to believe they are not stupid.

is that what you were thinking?

[rfranklin]

26. Yes, just read about it somewhere

now I can't find it. I guess I wasn't as smart as I thought!

[Jazzgirl]

24. Anosognosic!

I never thought I'd have the chance to use that term. A friend of mine sent me the article from the NYT a week or two ago. It is quite interesting that they came up with a term for it.

[hootinholler]

29. Even more so when you consider that stoopud people will confuse it with agnostic.

:rofl:

-Hoot

[Iggo]

39. Are you anosognosic?

No way! I believe in Jeh-EE-zus-uh!

:rofl:

[mwb970]

63. I believe in cheese sauce. /nt

[activa8tr]

35. Here's a link to that series of articles... long and detailed

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/the-anosognosics-dilemma-1/#more-53073

It became known as the Dunning-Kruger Effect — our incompetence masks our ability to recognize our incompetence.


EDITED TO ADD, this really explains Sarah Palin and all her followers, IMO.

[Leftist Agitator]

33. I believe you are thinking of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which an unskilled person makes poor decisions and reaches erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to realize their mistakes.<1> The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their own ability as above average, much higher than it actually is, while the highly skilled underrate their abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority.







Pretty much describes every Republican I have ever known.

[MajorChode]

37. Some more than others

They should have Palin's picture on the wiki page.

[Fuzz]

41. I have said for years that I'm just barely smart enough to realize how stupid I am.

[DirkGently]

72. Hmmmm. Gets me thinking. Let's replace ALL the rightwing

talking heads with satire. They'll never know ... until it's too late.

Blahahahahahahaha. ha. ha. Etc.

[sinkingfeeling]

2. Tell her to shop at Piggly-Wiggly if Publix's prices are too high.

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[peekaloo]

5. She's in step with the Publix hierarchy.

They "encourage" their employees to vote for the candidates (R) most likely to make them richer.

[CurtEastPoint]

16. I don't know about Publix hierarchy, but they are EMPLOYEE-OWNED.

can't say that about a lot of places.

[TalkingDog]

17. Commies! I wonder if she knew she was shopping at a communally held business?

Ha! That always makes me laugh....

[ornotna]

48. I don't know about that, but

I do know that they don't grossly over pay their executives compared to most corporations.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5484263

[Roland99]

6. No way I could have held back. I'd have told her that Colbert is a bleeding-heart liberal who MOCKS

fake "patriots" like herself.

[alphafemale]

61. and as a parting shot I'd of added "and Glenn Beck is mocking you too."

Never let a chance to screw with their tiny little reptilian brains pass you by.

:hi:

[JohnyCanuck]

7. Ok, if I really wanted to mess with your mind...

I could suggest that Colbert is really a closet conservative, and he is only pretending to lefty types to be a liberal playing a conservative in order to have less opposition to his dark and underhanded plot to spread right wing, conservative memes far and wide. And gosh darn, it looks like its working. :rofl:

[wryter2000]

8. It ought to be a crime

Voting while stupid.

[ixion]

9. Freepers don't do subtle nuance in the least

their brains simply are not developed to the point where irony, satire and parody register.

[Tippy]

10. I got this idea for a bumper sticker yesterday

Bumper sticker imagin this a picture of and elephant with the words "THEY ARE OUT OF THEIR MINDS AND OUT OF CONTROL"

[Ian David]

11. You should have directed her to Colbert's speech at The White House Correspondent's Dinner. n/t

[beardown]

12. Add the entire Bush admin

They brought in Colbert to do the Washington press corp dinner and then were shocked when he went after the military command, gutless parroting Washington press, and Bush.

As stated before, stupidity has become a virtue in America today.

[Ganja Ninja]

13. It's people like this that really truly deserve the right wing government they long for.

I just wish they could all go somewhere and have it.

[LiberalAndProud]

14. Teabaggers don't realize that Cobert is satire.

Because he's not. He simply reflects the true mindset of the far right. Thinking people recognize the absurdity. Those he mocks don't get the joke. They just sit back and say "right on."

[zipplewrath]

19. Exactly

They don't get the satire because it is basically all their point of view. Colbert rarely actually moves into the "absurd" in the sense of saying things that even THEY wouldn't say. Of course he doesn't have to. Any group of people that will happily nod their heads to a line like "the truth has a well know liberal bias" are absurd enough.

[jberryhill]

20. You'd think that it runs on "Comedy Central" might be an enormous clue, though /nt

[ecstatic]

31. I haven't watched in a while, but isn't there a laugh soundtrack

that plays whenever he says something RW?

[JVS]

58. It's a live audience.

[KurtNYC]

66. They booked him to roast Bush in 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa-4E8ZDj9s

I'm still trying to get my head around that one.

[NJmaverick]

15. Better reply for next time- Ma'am after the conservatives destroyed our Country

I am not sure there is anything left for the liberals to damage.

[Edweird]

21. I believe the ability to recognize satire is an indicator of intelligence.

And, well, being a teabagger pretty much makes you a moron.....

[corkhead]

22. She was probably a big fan of Archie Bunker back in the day too.

[lpbk2713]

23. A willfully ignorant jingoist.

Assclowns who drape themselves in our flag like this are putty in the hands of the manipulative
RW Media Hatemongers such as OxyRush and BecKKK and all the rest of those lying propagandists.

[Contrary1]

25. Send your story to Colbert...

I would love to see him do a truthiness bit about it.

[dtexdem]

27. You should have told her that bears were taking over the parking lot.

And that she should run home and hide from them.

;-)

[struggle4progress]

28. Y'know, Carroll O'Connor used to get letters from wingnuts thanking him

for the stuff he said when playing Archie Bunker

So this is not a new or unexpected phenomenon

[Common Sense Party]

30. What is a Tea emblem?

[Patiod]

34. Not sure what the OP meant, but the "don't tread on me" flag

is one symbol they used.

A girlfriend of mine was just about to purchase some gifts from a crafts booth at a flea market at the Jersey Shore, when her husband pointed out the "don't tread on me" flag draped over the hatchback of the vendor's car, and the tea party bumper stickers, and suggested my friend probably didn't want to give their money to this woman. My friend put back all her purchases and left. I would have told the vendor WHY I wasn't buying, but my friend isn't as blunt.

[mwb970]

65. I would LOVE to do that!

Pick out some pricey stuff, then just before paying "notice" the teabagger crap. When they acknowledge that it is theirs, put the pricey stuff back and walk off. That would be JOLLY GREAT FUN!

[BlueJazz]

43. Sorry for the late answer..(working today). I think she made it herself...

...or maybe bought it.
It was a patch with a Teabag on it that said "Red Rose" (as in Red Rose tea)
It was surrounded by 2 flags so the meaning was pretty clear. (I'm an Idiot) :)

[Scurrilous]

32. You should have pointed out...

...(when she complained about prices), that Publix has Lipton Tea Bags (box of 100) on sale 'buy 1 get 1 free.'

[activa8tr]

36. She probably would have just bought the tea bags and not

figured it out until after she paid for them, "hey, they charged me for BOTH boxes of bags....that woman lied to me!!"

[chillspike]

38. Classic!

When the Colbert Report first launched a lot of Right wingers thought he was a real Righty. She must be a leftover clueless one.

[mstinamotorcity]

40. There are no Litmus test

for being ridiculous.

[LynneSin]

42. The fact that it is on The Comedy Channel and not Faux news should have been her first clue

:rofl:

I would have asked if that woman was asleep in a cave from 2001-2008 when the prices started to skyrocket especially the $4.50 gallon of gasoline!

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[lunatica]

47. LOL!

You're soooo

What an idiotic thing to say, and even worse to think that anyone here would agree with it.

[jah the baptist]

50. i agree with your subject line

and the body of your message proves your thesis, no?

[Hissyspit]

45. Inflation - Average Annual Inflation Rate is down under Obama compared to Bush years

for the most part.

And in all probability, her taxes went down last year, too, so she had more money to pay for the lower rate of inflation.

The woman is a fucking idiot.

[Touchdown]

46. OMG! I got to Orlando a lot! This is the first time i noticed the "L" in the store name!

:hide:

[JVS]

59. What did you think they sold?

[Touchdown]

74. I thought it was a waxing salon.

... and a big discount one at that. I figured a lot of Brazilians live there.:shrug:

[nadinbrzezinski]

49. This woman did not get a clue

even after Colbert ROASTED bush? WOW!

[LoZoccolo]

51. Cool story, bro. n/t

[Balbus]

52. Bounce.

:bounce:

[lunasun]

53. you betcha! and the stupid just loves em some stupid .....nt

[RagAss]

54. I understood this in the early 80's....

When about 75% of the people I knew at the time believed that Andy Kaufman was actually picking women randomly out of the NBC studio audience and wrestling them on stage on Saturday Night Live.

I can still hear them...
"That Kaufman...he's sick...I hate that guy !"

I bet Karl Rove must have been hearing the same things from the people he knew, and he made good use of that.

When you control the American Idiot, you control the vote.

[grillo7]

55. I wonder how widespread this is...

I have an acquaintance who's very liberal, and began talking about how he loved the Daily Show. I agreed, and said I liked the Colbert Report even more, at which point he stared at me, surprised, and exclaimed, "But he's a conservative! That show's awful!". I was hoping this was a fairly isolated incident. Now I'm afraid.

[lib_wit_it]

56. My sister, very liberal, says she can't watch Colbert because of the RWish things he says, even

though she knows he's mocking them. My mom, a Democrat who says she's not a liberal but kinda is, also has been convinced at times that he is being serious. I always thought they were nuts, but in a Rolling Stone interview not too long ago, he claimed that he has no political agenda and that he likes to skewer both liberals and conservatives as he sees fit.

I found this to be rather disingenuous, because the great majority of the time it seems clear he is demonstrating the idiocy of the RW bs he's pretending to believe. But I guess that's pretty cocky of me. I'm sure he knows better than I do what he's doing.

Maybe my mom picked up on some of his anti-liberal material.

[eShirl]

60. He mocks the mockable, and the RW *for some reason* is the most target-rich environment.

[JoePhilly]

64. My sense is that he only mocks the left ...

when we deserve it for being unwilling or afraid to stand up to the right wing. For acting like the GOP isn't nuts and might have reasonable views.

[lib_wit_it]

75. I think that's pretty much correct, although, knowing that he's a devout catholic, I wonder about

the segments when he goes at it with atheists. I think he loses his ability to judge absurdity in these cases.

[NuttyFluffers]

69. if he stated his preference then he unmasks the joke.

no sane comedic performer is going to kill his golden goose for some small group of fans who don't get the joke and need public purity statements.

[SmileyRose]

57. Wait till her fellow baggers find out she was in PUBLIX!!!

They'll probably punish her for going to such a liberal bastion by taking away her flag pins.

[mwb970]

62. I had the same Stewart-Colbert experience earlier this year.

I was helping with some painting at my niece's school, and one of the other volunteers (a rural conservative type) praised Colbert and his show at some length. I ventured that in some ways The Daily Show is even better, to which he replied "Oh, I never watch that. That's a librul show." I froze, paint brush in hand, trying to grasp what he seemed to be saying. Probing a bit, I found out, as you did, that this guy thought Colbert was a True Conservative who used humor to make his right-wing points! For him, The Daily Show's "librul" stance is the opposite of Colbert's "True Conservatism".

I didn't try to correct his false impression (have you ever tried to "correct" a conservative? Yikes!) but I was amazed to realize that this guy had missed the entire point of Colbert's show!

To me, this is emblematic of the universal conservative tendency to obsess over symbols while completely missing the underlying substance (a product of their limited, narrow minds and black-and-white thinking). Protect the flag at all costs, even as you trash the country it represents! Wear a flag lapel pin as you spew anti-American hate rhetoric! And do you remember Dunkin' Donuts and Rachael Ray's scarf?

America is being held hostage by its least educated, least informed citizens, whipped into a froth by the likes of Palin, Bachmann, Beck, and the whole gallery of charlatans and liars on the far right.

[NuttyFluffers]

71. that's an important point: literal vs. allegorical; image vs. symbol, etc.

Symbols represent or stand in for something else, whereas images are facsimiles of an object. Allegories mean not what they say on the surface, but retain deeper meaning; literal messages are completely taken at surface value. Very much like the 'letter of the law' vs. 'spirit of the law' discussions people encounter in certain religious/mystical teaching.

Sadly, this is a high linguistic, high knowledge, and high perceptive task, and thus not universally available without intensive training. In fact, higher level humor is so heavily predicated upon this higher level of linguistic, knowledgeable, and perceptive functioning that it is one of the best indicators of those who cannot abide the confusing and elusive nature of such thinking. What I have noticed is, as you, this is a universal conservative tendency. The task of decoding meaning out of a confusion of images and words seems frighteningly like magic to these people. And what do frightened people do in the face of magic-like power? They condemn and attack it (unless they are taught to fear and obey it).

So conservative-minded people need to rely on a few "high priests" of symbolism to explain the machinations of their enemy (who is ever present and all powerful). If you can mimic the babbling of their "high priests" then you short-circuit their thinking and can walk them through more absurd heights. They will not get the joke because they cannot get the joke -- and if they ever do get the joke, and that it is on them, they will be alone and afraid in a cognitive dissonance from which they haven't the power to free themselves. That's why it is hilarious to watch someone satirize such thinking (lambasting the madness of the "high priests"), but so incredibly sad to see victims of such thinking be unable to tell the difference. They are scared and willing chattel who can in mob mentality moments stampede all over you.

[pipi_k]

67. OK I can see someone being too stupid to know it's satire, but...

I really have to wonder what she thinks about the hilarity coming from the audience.

Maybe she thinks all those people are laughing at the stupid Liberals Colbert is "putting down"?



oy....scary. People like her are walking free on our streets...driving cars and trucks and buses...even teaching our children...

:scared:

[flpab]

68. Ignoranus

stupid and an arse

[mysticalchick]

70. My RWNJ cousin thought the same thing re: Colbert

She told me she watches that and I replied that I still like TDS more. Her response "Well, Colbert is more right wing so that's probably why you don't like it."

WTF?

So, I said "Uh, it's satire. Colbert is satirizing O'Reilly and those guys."

Her reply? "Really? Oh. I had no idea."

(sigh)

This was four years ago and I still laugh about it.

[RagAss]

73. Kicked