NYT: Retraining To Find A New /Better Job Is Basically Worthless

[stopbush]

Hundreds of thousands of Americans have enrolled in federally financed training programs in recent years, only to remain out of work. That has intensified skepticism about training as a cure for unemployment.

Even before the recession created the bleakest job market in more than a quarter-century, job training was already producing disappointing results. A study conducted for the Labor Department tracking the experience of 160,000 laid-off workers in 12 states from mid-2003 to mid-2005 — a time of economic expansion — found that those who went through training wound up earning little more than those who did not, even three and four years later. “Over all, it appears possible that ultimate gains from participation are small or nonexistent,” the study concluded.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/After-Job-Training-Still-nytimes-3665558803.html?x=0

[Nay]

1. Well, DUH. The problem isn't lack of training -- that's the pub spin on

unemployment-- you know, all those dumb lazy people too stupid to go to school. This whole idea that the unemployment problem could be solved by training had TWO origins:

Schools, esp fly-by-night schools, wanted some of that taxpayers' money

Pubs, who wanted yet another reason to stave off any attempts to stop offshoring, layoffs, etc.

[stray cat]

2. How about graduating from highschool?

for at least some there is a lack of training

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[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

4. Oh yeah, that's the problem. None of these unemployed have HS or college or postgrad diploma.

Because they're all lazy bums like Ben Stein said. :eyes:

Oh, I know what you're thinking of saying in reply. "I didn't say that!" BS. You did.

[Historic NY]

5. You can't train for jobs that aren't out there....I always like those

TEE-VEE ads train for a job as a law enforcement officer, forensic tech...etc. You can get a job w/o a college degree and perhaps a state civil service examination.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

6. I figured this out a long time ago. About 20 years ago.

Got a BA in biology from the best pre-med school in the state.
That was thirty years ago. Never got me a job.

Twenty five years ago I earned a Juris Doctor (from a highly regarded private law school that cranks out excellent trial lawyers)and spent $20K (in early 80s tuition dollars, that was a very expensive school) and five years of night school earning it.

Never passed the bar exam. Got a grand total of ONE interview in the 2000's as a paralegal. And I was a court reporter for fifteen years, had seen a million trials and taken a lot of depositions in cases of all kinds. With the biology degree, I could spell all kinds of medical expert testimony. Words like "spondylosis, spondylolysis, and spondylolisthesis".

Before that I was a legal secretary for my dad, who was a general civil attorney.


Any of this real world experience help me? Nope, not a goddamned bit.

Who me, bitter?

And the private schools that advertise are a gigantic ripoff. They can all go to hell. The two year degree in court reporting, I made money from, but the stress got me to the point where my health was ruined, I was burned out, and I can't stand lawyers.

:wtf: