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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:44 AM
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column in my paper today "The Blood of the Tea Party"-it's not pretty
http://www.thedailylight.com/articles/2010/07/20/opinion/doc4c45cb4ce069c822933470.txt

The blood of the Tea Party
Published: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:22 AM CDT
Dr. Paul Kengor
Grove City College

I’ve never participated in a Tea Party rally. My natural habitat is a classroom or behind a keyboard. That said, I’ve had a lot of contact with Tea Party people, and, of course, I hear the angry charges from those doing their worst to discredit the movement. For what it’s worth, here are some personal experiences and observations:

The first time I was contacted for a Tea Party event was by a Pittsburgh woman named Patti. She called last spring. I asked: Who’s behind this Tea Party business? Is the Republican Party running this?

I learned no one was ordering Patti but herself. A mother of three daughters, wife of a physician, and a Harvard MBA, Patti calmly explained that she was so concerned about her country that she got involved. “This is completely grassroots,” she assured me.

Indeed, at that moment, President Obama and the Democratic Congress had taken a record budget deficit from George W. Bush and exploded it in one fell swoop with an enormously destructive $800-billion “stimulus package.” Liberals attacking the Tea Party must understand that it was such extremist policies by their own politicians that sent the likes of Patti into the streets.

Not long after that conversation, I watched in awe as such unceasing fiscal insanity drove a huge swath of concerned citizens to Washington on Sept. 12, 2009. In response to this massive “9/12” march, liberals were apoplectic. They exhibit an intense emotional attachment to Obama, lashing out at anyone who criticizes him. That reaction is particularly pronounced in their fits of rage at Tea Party people, who they denounce with ugly epithets: Nazi, racist, hate-monger.

The hysterics have only gotten worse. Smear groups like “CrashTheTeaParty.org” are infiltrating the Tea Party. The goal, according to Jason Levin, who spearheads the group, is to “act on behalf of the Tea Party in ways which exaggerate their least appealing qualities,” in order to “damage the public’s opinion of them.”

Alas, I don’t think the saboteurs and demonizers realize how this may backfire. Those within the Tea Party don’t seem to care about the nasty names. This is a movement with no single leader wedded to a political future or with politically sensitive ambitions. There’s no one face fearful of being maligned by the New York Times, NPR, and Keith Olbermann. Few movements are so huge and yet so anonymous.

Most significant, many Tea Party people, not to mention those who agree with them—even if they never attend rallies—are independents and Democrats. A recent Gallup poll found that 50 percent of “Tea Party identifiers” are Republicans while 43 percent are independents and 7 percent are Democrats. That’s a remarkably high number of non-Republicans.

Another telling survey was released by Rasmussen in March. It found that by an overwhelming margin, 62 percent to 12 percent, “Mainstream Americans” believe the Tea Party is “closer to their views” than Congress. By a margin of 68 percent to 16 percent, they deemed Tea Party members “better informed” than members of Congress.

Anecdotally, I find much of this confirmed. My first question to anyone who has attended a Tea Party rally is the breakdown of independents and Democrats. The reports I get are that there are many, upwards of one-third or more. I’m told this by people I trust, who are more interested in ascertaining truth than flailing about, hurling invectives at anyone who dares to disagree with Obama.

Speaking of whom, these numbers are a major threat to President Obama. Bear in mind that it was the huge swing group of independents and moderates who in November 2008 went for Obama by 52 to 44 percent (MSNBC exit poll data), and thereby elected the most left-wing presidential candidate in American history.

According to consistent polling by Zogby, independents now approve of Obama by only around 40 percent.

Thus, all of this adds up to an uncomfortable thought I pose to the Obama acolytes: If independents, moderates, and Democrats are a notable element of the Tea Party movement, or sympathize with it, do you really want to inflame them, especially as November 2010 approaches?

This is a multifaceted movement, but one thing seems certain: Those taking pleasure assailing Tea Partiers may enliven the very movement they endeavor to destroy. I’m reminded of a quote from an early Church father (Tertullian): “We multiply wherever we are mown down by you.” The “blood” of the faithful is “seed.”

Needless to say, I’m not equating the Tea Party with the early Church, even as I’ve found an undeniably strong (and hardly irrelevant) Christian element within the movement. Yet, there’s a parallel in that the persecution of the movement—by an aggressively secular, militant left, mind you—may backfire, big time.

And that’s surely not the intention of the anti-Tea Party crusaders.

Dr. Paul Kengor is professor of political science and executive director of The Center for Vision & Values at Grove City College. His coming book is “Dupes: How America’s Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century.”
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:45 AM
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1. This clown again?
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:47 AM
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4. well...he is the Omega of my alpha..he just gets paid for his input.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 12:00 PM
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13. Does he own that paper or something?
Seems like he gets to use it as his personal soapbox.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:46 AM
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2. oh-and,please...any suggestions at rebuttal will be welcome
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 12:03 PM
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15. OK
Indeed, at that moment, President Obama and the Democratic Congress had taken a record budget deficit from George W. Bush and exploded it in one fell swoop with an enormously destructive $800-billion “stimulus package.” Liberals attacking the Tea Party must understand that it was such extremist policies by their own politicians that sent the likes of Patti into the streets.

Attention Dr. Stupid Fuckwit: BUSH passed the bank bailout that you are so upset about. Why weren't you protesting in the streets then, hypocrite?
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:46 AM
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3. 11 of their 15 minutes are up. Seriously, get over yourselves, clowns. nt
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:51 AM
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5. um... what's the point in this?
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:53 AM
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6. The point being this is the crap that my area was fed until I began posting.I like to have fact
to rebut...and DU is a great resource...
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:55 AM
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7. "If independents, moderates, and Democrats are a notable element of the Tea Party movement, or...
sympathize with it, do you really want to inflame them, especially as November 2010 approaches?"


Why, yes. Yes we do. Thanks for asking.

As a good Democrat once said, “I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell.”





What is it with these fucks and their martyr/persecution complexes?



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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:55 AM
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8. Grove City College. Enough said.
Here's his bio. from Townhall.com: http://townhall.com/columnists/DrPaulKengor

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:56 AM
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9. I'd look into the funding sources for The Center for Vision & Values. nt
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:57 AM
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10. Fiscal insanity? Destructive stimulus package?
Completely grassroots? Funny how repugs didn't say a word about $11 trillion debt and now are 'concerned' about $13 trillion debt. Some dumbass repug on Hardball last night claims he met with 'constituents' and their number one question was "when are you going to stop the out-of-control spending?"
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:59 AM
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11. Yeah grassroots until you follow the money trail and learn that it's funded by the same
rich assholes who fund the republicon party. Oh yeah btw, the tea bagging nit wits did not get mad about the 800 billion stimulus passed by Obama, they were pissed because of the bank bailouts that bush did before leaving office that they were told was an Obama bailout. Nit wit.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:59 AM
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12. He authors “Dupes: How America’s Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century" ...
but he should be considered an unbiased columnist.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 03:52 PM
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24. What? We're still on orders from Moscow?
My comrade commissar controller is inkvedibly late with the payink of me.
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jah the baptist Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 12:03 PM
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14. first of all, there is no such thing as political \"science\" despite the name of some university
departments.

the discipline should be called \'government\' - as it is at some colleges.

second - the whole tea party scam is really amazing. it is a complete fabrication of fox \"news\' and various corporate interests, with conservative republicans doing the grunt work of phony grass roots outrage, and the rest of the media going along with the charade.
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NoNothing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 12:07 PM
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16. I have a Bachelor of Science in political science
No joke!
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jah the baptist Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 12:12 PM
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18. i have a minor in it
but it no more makes me a scientist than my history degree.
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jah the baptist Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 12:14 PM
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19. oh wow, i just realized you wrote \'BS\' instead of \'BA\'
pretty cool. you should wear a white lab coat everywhere you go. :-)
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 12:09 PM
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17. Tea Party = National Association of Neighborhood Assholes n/t
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 12:27 PM
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20. Jeez, what tripe.
Tea Party = republicans
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 12:28 PM
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21. Well, his Gallop poll BS is just that
Conservative Republicans outnumber moderate/liberal Republicans in the general population by about a 2-to-1 margin; among Tea Party supporters, the ratio is well more than 3 to 1. More generally, almost 8 out of 10 Tea Party supporters are Republicans, compared with 44% of all national adults.

These findings are based on three surveys Gallup conducted in March, May, and June of this year. Thirty percent of Americans, on average, identify as Tea Party supporters -- a percentage remarkably consistent across the three surveys.

The Tea Party movement has received considerable news coverage this year, in large part because it appears to represent a new and potentially powerful force on the American political scene. Whether Tea Party supporters are a voting segment that is unique and distinct from the more traditional Republican conservative base, however, appears questionable. http://www.gallup.com/poll/141098/tea-party-supporters-overlap-republican-base.aspx


Bottom Line

Americans who say they support the Tea Party movement share a common concern about government and its scope, particularly with regard to deficit spending. Their views do set them apart from those who are neutral or opposed to the Tea Party movement, but hardly distinguish them from supporters of the Republican Party more broadly.

Still, the more active elements of the Tea Party movement have succeeded to some degree in pushing the Republican Party more to the right this year by working to nominate candidates more to their liking. The fate of these candidates, such as Rand Paul, Sharron Angle, and Marco Rubio, in the fall elections will go a long way toward determining the future influence of the Tea Party movement, both in the Republican Party and the larger U.S. political system.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/141119/Debt-Gov-Power-Among-Tea-Party-Supporters-Top-Concerns.aspx
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 12:50 PM
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22. Look here, and follow up on the links within them
http://www.democracycorps.com/strategy/2010/07/special-report-on-the-tea-party-movement/?section=Analysis

Popular accounts describe it as a populist revolt against elites. Richard Viguerie at a tax day rally said, “The tea parties are an unfettered new force of the middle class tapping into the anger (at) most major American institutions such as Wall Street, education, Hollywood, the media, big labor.” And Matt Bai in The New York Times writes, “the only potent grass-roots movement to emerge from this moment of dissatisfaction with America’s economic elite exists … in the form of the so-called Tea Party rebellions that are injecting new energy into the Republican cause.”

While many of the Tea Party supporters are also frustrated with the Republican Party of TARP bailouts, that does not alter the character of the movement:

86 percent of Tea Party supporters and activists identify with or lean to the Republican Party.
79 percent identify as conservatives.
They are among the most pro-big business segments of the electorate: 54 percent rate it warmly and 20 percent coolly.
The Tea Party movement is not particularly blue collar. Tea Party supporters are slightly less likely to be college-graduates than the likely electorate (41 percent, versus 45 percent), and the activists more so (48 percent). And 85 percent of the supporters are white.
Only 5 percent report having voted for Obama in 2008.


http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/its-official-gop-welcomes-tea-bag.html
And why are they so misinformed?


Glenn Beck is the most highly regarded individual among Tea Party supporters of the people we tested. He scores an extraordinarily high 75 percent warm rating, 57 percent very warm.

This affinity for Beck came through very clearly in the focus groups. The only news source that participants said they could trust was Fox. Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly, and Sean Hannity were cited as people who “are not afraid to tell it like it is” and support their arguments with solid facts. Beck was undoubtedly the hero in these groups. Participants consider him an “educator” (in contrast to the popular Rush Limbaugh who is an “entertainer”) who teaches people history and puts himself at risk because he exposes the truth. In the words of a woman in Ft. Lauderdale, “I would trust my life in his hands.”


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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 01:22 PM
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23. You posted this same lame work from some RW professor at RW Grove City College yesterday. Will you
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