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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:06 AM
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I was about as angry and sad as a human could be last night.
They killed the beautiful mother bear who lived in my neighborhood for the last 15 years.
They killed her cubs too.

I had seen her last year in a field of wild flowers.
I am still crying this morning.
I am ashamed of my species.

Many in my community say there was nothing else they could do.
She was breaking into homes and teaching her cubs to do the same.

Somehow, I cannot accept that we need to kill everything that invades our space.
Up here in the Eastern Sierras the remote wildness always seemed to have an advantage.

no more...kp
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rwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:08 AM
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1. Very sorry
I know that hurts.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:15 AM
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2. I'm so sorry
:hug: I feel the same way as you. We have black bears visit us her in western PA. There is a bear hunting season here and I cringe thinking about whether the bears I am used to seeing are killed or not.

Shame on the authorities who feel the only way to solve a problem with animal/human encounters is to kill the animals :-(.
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hamsterjill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:16 AM
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3. Very sad indeed.
As an animal advocate in my own community, there are many times when I am completed ashamed of my own species. I understand your comment.

Mankind as a whole simply does not understand the intertwined dependence that he shares with the rest of nature. Mankind as a whole has not evolved to the point where he can understand those things.

Some of us get it...and we weep.
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:17 AM
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4. How tragic.
They could have trapped and relocated them. There was absolutely no reason to kill them. That breaks my heart. :cry:
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:18 AM
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5. Heartbreaking to even think about.
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rwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:24 AM
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6. We had a bear here a few years ago.
It stripped a friends apple tree, even the rotten ones on the ground. So hungry.

The game rangers trapped this one and moved it back into the mountains.
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immune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:29 AM
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7. Awful.
Why is it that people, if they don't understand something, just have to hunt it down and kill it.

Used to have a cap that said, "I Support the Right to Arm Bears".
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:45 AM
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8. Risking my soul here: "God" damn it!!!
:grr: :grr: :grr:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:50 AM
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9. P.S. My random reading earlier this morning: Ezekiel 28
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 12:06 PM
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10. Sorry for you kpete
Relocating this little bear family seemed too much for humans to do. :mad:

A damn shame.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 12:11 PM
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11. that's horrible
I'm sorry, kpete. Why couldn't they have captured and relocated the bears? I do not know a lot about bears patterns, hunting grounds, etc. but it seems more humane than killing them. Unless they couldn't afford to do so.

Now I'm tearing up too. It seems so wrong.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 01:01 PM
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12. K&R...However, I would change one sentence:
"I cannot accept that we need to kill everything that invades our space."

changed to:

I cannot accept that we need to kill everything whose space we invade.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 01:28 PM
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13. No money for relocation, but plenty of bucks for bullets!
:puke:

Very sorry to hear this, kpete. :(
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 01:32 PM
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14. I am sorry for them. Once a mama teaches babies to break into homes, relocation
doesn't work because they now not only don't know where wild food is, but continue to find other homes to break into.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 01:32 PM
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15. That's horrifying, kpete
I didn't think that was done unless an animal killed a human.

I'm ashamed of our species too.

:cry:

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voteearlyvoteoften Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:53 AM
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16. rec
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:01 AM
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17. That's the problem, kpete. They are not invading our space.
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 10:02 AM by Fire1
WE ARE INVADING THEIRS!!!!!!!:nuke:

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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:50 AM
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18. Who is "they"?
Where I live we have a lot of bear contact and usually when one becomes a problem it is trapped and moved to a new location by Fish and Game officials. Rarely does one ever get killed. When that does happen it is usually because the bear has broken into a house and they are unable to get it to leave and it is doing great damage. I am coming to the conclusion more and more that mankind is nothing more than a blight upon the Earth.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:57 AM
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19. a little good news
The little blond bear "Oatmeal" may be spared.
My husband heard that playing the radio or TV keeps bears from breaking into homes.
If this works, he may be spared.

They have been chasing him away with rubber bullets and pepper spray but he keeps coming back.

Perhaps a little Rush Limbaugh will work.



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