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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:05 PM Original message |
Businesses close in Arizona |
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virgogal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. This will be good for other states. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. It's already good for New Mexico |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. Leave it to a UK paper to report what's happening in America. |
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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I first read it |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Our MSM reports very little of the bad economic news... |
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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. I'm sure it's just the time difference |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 04:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. My paper's already full of it. Ba-dump, pshhh!!!! |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. "The Guardian has become my 'go-to' source for suppressed news here in the states." |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
32. have you seen the doc "blue gold--the coming world water wars"??? |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 04:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Thanks--I'll take a look... |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
34. Local news has been all over businesses closing |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
3. But...but..they're going to save jobs fer 'Mericuns and tons of money on education and healthcare. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. Remember Hazleton, Pa.? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. You and Sarge and a few of us have been pointing this inevitable consequence out |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
7. Serves Arizona right. |
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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. You are right of course |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Well, when you can't do business where you are, moving |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 04:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. A lot of them will be out of the middle class for at least a generation |
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SargeUNN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. tempting thought but ... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I understand. Fighting battles that cannot end without a loss, |
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SargeUNN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. You might be right |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
47. Freudian Post O' The Month!! |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 07:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
52. I was born in Superior, AZ, but my parents moved away from there |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-10 06:41 AM Response to Reply #52 |
64. I grew up in Safford and rebelled against the mormon power structure quite early. |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
59. It's Sheriff Babeau (hmm, foreign name--should we check HIS papers?) |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. My bad! I misspelled it--it's B-a-b-e-u. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. Resistance to this kind of civil rights infringement never comes from politicans |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. The AZ legislature is more right wing than the electorate. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 07:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
54. It is, indeed, and far more Anglo than the general population. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 08:02 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Or risen up. Well, I hope decent people in AZ don't suffer too much from this. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Uprisings are rare events. Especially among the disadvantaged. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
36. I wish I could afford to |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #7 |
70. I wish I could. I'm ashamed--but I will not give up. There's a lot to like about this state. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
8. AZ Republicans: Mission Accomplished |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Yeah, and our state Republicans want to pass the same bill. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. Some organization needs to hold a conference on the issue at Central High. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
12. Wonder what the loss in taxes adds up to? |
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MountainMama (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. You guys don't understand.... |
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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I think its more than not caring |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
73. "Complete absence of forethought, planning, and considering consequences." EXACTLY. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. And they don't care about all those ANGLO citizens whose lives will be affected |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #25 |
74. But us Anglos won't be affected; are you kidding? We don't benefit at all from THEIR businesses! |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 07:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
53. Exactly right. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 07:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. It's not only that. Just wait until all those people aren't shopping any more |
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SargeUNN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. I have heard |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #12 |
72. When I drive across the Valley (of the Sun--Phoenix metro area) I can almost see |
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lpbk2713 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
21. The goppers are doing to Arizona ... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
22. Karma. |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
29. My niece lives in Phoenix |
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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. The original article |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #33 |
75. Knowing that area as I do, I'm guessing that you are correct. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
35. Good thing we're not in a mini-Depression...it might be hard to tell the difference |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 04:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. The law has hurt hispanic businesses hard |
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SargeUNN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. it is all business really. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Sarge, what is that name of that town in PA that turned into a ghost town? |
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SargeUNN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. I don't remember exactly but it is something like |
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SargeUNN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. again check out 9500 Liberty at YouTube |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Thanks! Free Speech TV ran a documentary about that town. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. Fyi, it was Hazelton. |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. '60 Minutes' covered it, too |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. There's a whole documentary but haven't found it yet. |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Just doing a little internet searching... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Well, no. This has happened everywhere these laws have been passed. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #35 |
76. Actually, up until the past few months, the local economies in Hispanic |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
45. Businesses are closing everywhere not just in AZ. |
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SargeUNN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 06:35 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. sorry to bust your bubble |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 06:43 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Right. So attacking a third of your citizens has no impact on a state economy. |
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SargeUNN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 06:48 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. by the way |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #49 |
77. I Got your back, too, my friend. It's almost funny to see those who have never |
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SargeUNN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 07:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. well been awhile and still no Saturday |
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SunnySong (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #45 |
69. That was my reaction as well... I'm sure the law didn't help but you could draw |
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branders seine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
50. Ideologues |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-10 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
63. Best of luck to those leaving. Here's hoping for a quick repeal of SB 1070 |
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CanonRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-10 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
66. That's my old neighborhood |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. It was amazingly thriving up until recently. Within the past few months |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-10 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
67. DUers, my SO works within a few blocks of 43rd and Thomas and some good friends do as well. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 02:23 AM Response to Reply #67 |
79. Make yourselves scarce. If you can. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-10 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
71. Those dummies! |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 02:19 AM Response to Original message |
78. Kick |
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rufus dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
80. as a person who grew up in Phx. Five mile north of the area referenced. |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 05:27 AM Response to Original message |
81. I never would have thought that I would see American refugees...from Arizona! |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 05:33 AM Response to Original message |
82. It is so stupid - at various times, the US has limited immigration of Orientals and Jews |
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