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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 03:43 PM Original message |
Why don't wind generators have guards to keep wildlife out of those big blades? |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. Would slow them down (nt) |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 08:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
44. Why not put pictures of Cheney on them to scare birds away? |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 09:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
51. Why don't oil companies have guards to keep wildlife out of those big oil gushers? |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 10:49 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. LOL |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 12:17 AM Response to Reply #62 |
73. Wow. |
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yella_dawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #62 |
81. Be glad nobody fell in. |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 08:40 PM Response to Reply #81 |
115. OMG |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. that would not be "common sense" to a mechanical engineer or craftsman. |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. "that would not be "common sense" to a mechanical engineer or craftsman |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 08:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
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yella_dawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
83. Glass houses and stones?? |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 09:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
46. The number of folks who think you just wave a magic wand & *poof* the laws of physics will just |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 10:34 PM Response to Reply #46 |
58. There are patents for such a contraption |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #58 |
79. False. There are no patents for any such contraption. Link please, to the patent application for a |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #79 |
93. Pardon me |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #58 |
102. The helix is pretty cool. Have you seen the vibratory generators? |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #102 |
127. Awesome idea |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #46 |
75. What amazes me is the number of people who say "it can't be done." |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. No one said "it can't be done." Your fetish for hurling personal attacks notwithstanding, it has |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
33. Hmm. |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. they are extremely creative. |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. Money. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 05:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
35. What light weight materials do we have that could be used as a screen |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 10:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
59. I'm not sure that would solve the problem. |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. That would add a couple of cents to the cost |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'd heard that somebody was working on a paint that would keep the birds and bats away |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 05:37 PM Original message |
Smells like cougar pee? |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
76. Well, if they didn't like cougar pee, that would at least keep them far away ... |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
8. Maybe because they would collide with the guard instead. |
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brooklynite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
9. Why don't houses have barriers around to keep birds from flying into the windows? |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. +1000, power lines kills millions of birds, so do glass buildings |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 05:35 PM Response to Reply #12 |
34. I'm all for justification |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 08:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
42. If the birds can't see the windows, they should still see the other bird approaching them. :) |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Do most birds fly at that height? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. I've seen birds thousands of feet above the ground |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. the answer is... yes some do |
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Synicus Maximus (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 09:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
121. My Mama has birds fly into her windows every week or two. And she has |
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Contrary1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-10 02:43 AM Response to Reply #121 |
134. Maybe she would agree to try this: |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
10. I thought the blades turn so slow that they won't hurt birds. |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I'm with you, I've never been able to imagine how those slow moving |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. The bird or bat simply collides with them. |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 04:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
91. Bats don't die from hitting the blades |
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NoNothing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. They only look slow because they are so massive |
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Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 04:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. F = mv/t |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
53. I used to think that too, but last week I got to see the newest |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
87. I wonder if they used older model turbines? |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 11:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
68. The blade tips travel at about 200 mph. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 06:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
111. Old wind turbines had faster turning blades and killed birds. New turbines solve that problem. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-10 02:11 AM Response to Reply #111 |
133. Oh yeah? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
15. If this happens so damn much, why aren't the blades drenched with blood and feathers? |
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
16. Domestic cats kill more than 100,000,000 birds every year |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
39. That works out to one bird for every three people, per year. |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 08:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
43. Both of your numbers are ridiculous. |
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 09:04 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Yes. Science is bunk |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #45 |
106. What science? |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 09:37 PM Response to Reply #106 |
129. plenty of academic studies |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-10 07:24 AM Response to Reply #129 |
136. Thanks! Now tell me why that number should not be reduced. |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-10 09:04 AM Response to Reply #136 |
140. my post was |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #140 |
145. You are quite correct. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 09:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
52. Humans kill 9,000,000,000 chickens per year. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 10:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Well Silly! If we did that, then we wouldn't need the wind farms! |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. LOL |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
56. You bring up a problem that can get to extreme levels very quickly |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
69. And I have an injured Quail from one of our cats |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 12:13 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Put bells on them. It works. nt |
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caboose (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #72 |
100. I tried that one time but they kept pecking me with those sharp little beaks. |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #100 |
124. ... |
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kurtzapril4 (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #69 |
125. Here's a hint |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 06:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
105. How many birds will die due to global climate change if we don't |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-10 08:15 AM Response to Reply #16 |
138. My car killed a bird about a month ago ... |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
17. Those wind generators are enormous. |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
70. Well how about |
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sailor65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
19. Can't be done |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
86. Yes! What's the effect on bird populations? And where are the bodies? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
20. Common sense dictates that no such screens be used. |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Yes. Especially the butterflies. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. How about our annual bout with love bugs? |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Ewww they are so sticky |
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plcdude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
21. check out |
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gvstn (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. From your link |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
22. The new turbines are much safer than older style |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
64. Thanks for posting this |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
109. That's the story I keep remembering when I hear about wind turbine bird-kills. |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
24. More bullshit started by the Luddites and coal & oil companies. |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
61. I agree |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
92. Nope. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
26. i saw a blade being hauled down the highway today..it was huge |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
27. Then you would be complaining about the birds killed running into wind guards. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
107. True story: My husband was staying at a hotel on business |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
29. Fans generate wind. Turbines generate electricity from wind |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
31. The turbine hazzard to birds is an eco-myth that needs to be put down |
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yella_dawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
80. Hey! That's in my back yard. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #80 |
89. These particular ones are just northwest of Albany, TX |
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yella_dawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #89 |
143. The ones I'm talking about are east of Graham. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #143 |
144. I've flown over those too |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
38. To keep the birds out, the slots in the guard would have to be tiny. |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 10:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
55. Not opposed |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
47. Why don't skyscrapers? Cars? Power transimssion towers? or cats? |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
48. Because it would severely hamper the ability to generate electricity, for one thing; it would be |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #48 |
77. You forgot the third kind of reply ... |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 03:52 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. Thank you very kindly! I appreciate it. |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
49. Household cats kill thousands of times more bird than wind turbines |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 10:38 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. Not indoor cats. n/t |
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slutticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #60 |
113. What kind of an evil person would keep their kitty locked up all day? |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-10 01:52 AM Response to Reply #113 |
131. Am I evil? |
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ThomThom (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
50. I don't think it is really a problem since they don't spin that fast |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
110. The "tip speed" of a wind turbine is approximately 200 mph. |
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ThomThom (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. wow |
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edgrosvenor (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
63. They don't kill very many birds |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #63 |
108. I've heard of other people with problems from low frequency |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
65. For the same reason no one is going to harvest the water on the moon and bring it back here. |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #65 |
88. LOL -- one of the best threads ever! |
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jp11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
66. Everyone covered it except for mentioning that a guard would need to be cleaned of debris. |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. That wouldn't be a bad job |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
71. Kicking or later viewing eom |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
74. Big Beavis Industry _wants_ those animals to fly into the blades. |
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ecmphd (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
82. It's probably cost prohibitive |
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Throd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
84. The additional wind load on the supporting pylon structure would be tremendous |
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mcollins (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
90. you are joking, right? |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. No, I'm not |
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mcollins (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Astrophysics follows the standard laws of reality, |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 08:38 PM Response to Reply #96 |
114. Certainly |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
94. I think that the solution to this is fairly easy ... |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 09:09 PM Response to Reply #94 |
123. DING! DING! DING! |
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Merchant Marine (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
97. Because each blade on a 5Mw turbine is 65 meters long. |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 09:05 PM Response to Reply #97 |
122. Who said it had to be steel tubing? |
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Merchant Marine (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-10 03:00 AM Response to Reply #122 |
135. For large scale construction steel is the strongest and most cost effective material |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
98. Why don't the oceans have guards to protect fish from drowning in them? |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #98 |
120. Where |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
99. That would make them look like something from War of the Worlds, or something |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
101. LOL . . . How many birds are killed everyday by vehicles? Hell I |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 08:41 PM Response to Reply #101 |
116. That has been pointed out and discussed in the thread n/t |
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catchnrelease (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
103. Video of bird being hit |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 08:53 PM Response to Reply #103 |
118. Oh, but only 7,000 a year |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
104. $$$$$ n/t |
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JPZenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
117. Worse for bats than birds |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 08:55 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. I hope that is addressed very soon |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
126. Bird deaths per year -- OP please read this |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 09:35 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. I know |
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JPZenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-10 09:24 AM Response to Reply #126 |
142. Above comment is important to read |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-10 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
130. Why don't we mandate that all cats must wear muzzles when outdoors |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-10 02:02 AM Response to Reply #130 |
132. Muzzled cats |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #130 |
148. If you are volunteering to muzzle the cats, |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-10 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
137. Well, since we don't have enough predators any more... |
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Regret My New Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-10 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
139. Is it that big of an issue? If it is, perhaps some sort of "sonic barriers" would work best, aye? |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-10 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
141. How much wildlife dies because of fossil fuel production and use? |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-10 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
146. Because bird kills are a bullshit issue and don't happen often ever. |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-10 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
147. Have you seen the new Verticle Wind Turbines? |
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