The White House comments on Hawaii governor vetoing same-gender civil unions

[Bluebear]

[tekisui]

1. Well, what did WH say?

I think you forgot something.:hi:

[Bluebear]

2. Unfortunately the OP is all that has been forthcoming re: Obama's home state

[tekisui]

Ah, got it.

That one flew past me.

[Bluebear]

6. Edited :)

Something else can fly past us :toast:

[tekisui]

9. lol.

:thumbsup:

[golddigger]

3. Not a damn thing. I think that was the point

of the OP.

[VMI Dem]

4. I think Obama is a states rights guy when it comes to this.

Let the bigots...I mean people decide.

[niyad]

5. well, since he thinks marriage is only between a man and a woman. . .

[LostinVA]

14. Loving vs. Virginia

[Robb]

7. Did the WH comment on Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, or Vermont?

Or California? I honestly don't know. If he did, we have a problem and I'll line up behind you.

[FreeState]

11. Well those states have/had equal marriage - Hawaii vetoed separate but not equal Civil Unions

They are not the same thing, so oranges and apples. He claims to be a "fierce advocate for gay and lesbian Americans" but yet can't even make a one senate statement denouncing the denial of some very basic civil rights for LGBT families from his home state.

http://washingtonindependent.com/22526/obama-im-a-fierce-advocate-for-gay-and-lesbians

Obama: I’m a ‘Fierce Advocate’ for Gay and Lesbians

By LAURA MCGANN 12/18/08 11:44 AM
At a press conference in Chicago this morning, President-elect Barack Obama responded to attacks from gay-rights advocates who say they his selection of Pastor Rick Warren, a critic of gay rights, to deliver the invocation at his inauguration.

Warren, a leader of the evangelical Saddleback Church in Orange County,Calif., came out in favor of Proposition 8 — a ballot initiative that stripped gays of the right to marry in the state. The hot-button initiative narrowly passed, setting off a firestorm among gay rights advocates who took to the streets in protests across the state.

Obama, who often mentioned his support of gay rights in stump speeches, though not gay marriage, said today that he is a “fierce advocate for gay and lesbian Americans,” adding, “It’s something I’ve been consistent on.”

When pressed by a reporter on why he would invite someone with opposing social views to speak at his inauguration, Obama responded: “It’s important for Americans to come together, even if we have different social views…that dialogue, I think, is what my campaign has been about.”

[Bluebear]

12. “It’s something I’ve been consistent on.” - No argument here.

[Smashcut]

15. He should have commented regardless, don't you think?

[Bluebear]

16. thank you

[Luminous Animal]

18. If he had the courage of his convictions, he would have given mad props to the HI Gov.

Fierce advocate Obama on California...
http://www.queerty.com/obama-prop-8-unnecessary-but-doesnt-believe-in-gay-marriage-20081103/#ixzz0tXMVaDEe

"The Democratic Presidential candidate appeared on MTV this weekend to come out against California's Proposition 8, which would overturn gay marriage in the Golden State. At the same time, however, Obama reiterated his belief that marriage is between a man and a woman. Said the Senator from Illinois:


I've stated my opposition to this. I think unnecessary.

I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage. But when you start playing around with constitutions, just to prohibit somebody who cares about another person, it just seems to me that's not what America's about. Usually, our constitutions expand liberties, they don't contract them."

Oh. That makes total sense.

[Bluebear]

19. Really.

[xchrom]

8. Recommend

[FreeState]

10. +1

thats some fierce advocacy for us right there!

[msongs]

13. the "pentagon" is gonna make another survey and see if the troops approve nt

[Karmadillo]

17. Stealth fierce advocacy! Go team!

nt

[Duncan Grant]

20. Trans-temporal multi-dimensional chess. Have a little faith, will ya? (nt)