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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:06 PM Original message |
Want to fix the debt problem ...reduce the fucking defense spending! |
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lob1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
1. The deficit hawks want to cut everything but the |
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droidamus2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
71. Isn't that the plan |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. DUH! Someone tell the Emperor he is f**kin naked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. Defense is seen by the other side as the only appropriate... |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Doing the right thing is rarely easy to do when the government is entrenched with corporate ghouls. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
28. It's a little more complicated than that-- just about every Congressional district... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
63. It is an entitlement. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
5. Unfortunately, it stands about as much chance of happening as the other real solution. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Then expect this country to continue its downward slide. |
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godai (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
6. The US Empire will collapse. No longer can afford this. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Amazing isn't it? It's just crazy to be spending so much more than everyone else. |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
91. Even if our cold war enemies combined forces they would still be out spent by an absurd amount. |
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jimlup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Maybe if they changed the name to Department of Empire ... |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Department of Imperialist American Exceptionalist Empire. |
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LiberalLovinLug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
67. So much for that "end of the cold war" benefit |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. LOL |
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Lost4words (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
9. Aren't we fighting for our Freedom and Liberty here at home? |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Those same poor mislead pawns also swore to defend the constitution. |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
10. My eternally fucked in the head congressmen assures me... |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
100. Try being a liberal in Texas |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
11. K&R |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
14. Actually they have a very good plan |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. In other words ...there will be nothing left to fight for. |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. It is getting to that point |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
17. The Department of Defense is the most untouchable of our Sacred Cows. K&R |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. They worship the golden calve. |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:05 AM Response to Reply #17 |
33. Unfortunately, you are correct |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
18. First step is for congress and the president to revise NIE threat so DOD cannot justify its budget |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Spending a trillion on defense is a threat to this countries security. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:29 AM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Do you know what the NIE is and how it is used? n/t |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
19. Fix our plutocratic health system |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I am pretty much convinced they will not do what needs to be done in our best interests. |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
23. Absolutely K&R !! //nt |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
24. Bring the troops home yesterday.... |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:09 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. A good start would be if no one joined the military. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:28 AM Response to Reply #25 |
39. With high unemployment rates it is guaranteed that people will join, |
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Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
93. The Poverty Draft. nt |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 05:35 AM Response to Original message |
27. Cant say I agree with the whole pyramid rant |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
29. We've been on a |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
30. The Deficit hawks goal is to cut entitlement spending period. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
65. Every advocate of cutting entitlements |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
31. they won't do it, they never fucking do it. war machines trump life itself. |
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burnsei sensei (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
32. Cutting and re-directing defense spending |
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h9socialist (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
35. I agree with this 1000% |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
36. Here's an idea |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:49 AM Response to Reply #36 |
48. I notice that there aren't stats for how much Al-Qaida or the Taliban spends. |
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LiberalLovinLug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
68. Good point. They keep using al Qaida as their excuse |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 01:16 AM Response to Reply #48 |
98. Less "pathetic", more "misguided" |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
37. The US military is basically the developed world's military |
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xiamiam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
38. i think this is THE ISSUE we should rally round ..no more stupid war and gross spending |
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Drops_not_Dope (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
40. Hey yeah, err I mean FUCK YEAH |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
41. And completely eliminate the offense spending! nt |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
42. K&R |
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Soylent Brice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
43. K&R |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
44. Military spending is not on the table, only entitlements. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Yes, take from the poor, not from the rich. Same old song. nt |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
45. If the thieves can't steal money via the military budget, then how can they steal it from |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
47. I could be wrong, but... |
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Loudmxr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
49. I can accept the logic of the argument for empire when profit came back here. |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
50. r |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
51. Yep. Slash it and close the bs bases overseas also. Tired of it being called defense..it's offense. |
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Bonhomme Richard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
52. No politician has the balls to put that many people....... |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. We could sell our weapons of war to those that would be forced to take our place when we stop... |
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Bonhomme Richard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:46 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. My understanding is that the number of jobs, directly and indirectly, |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. We've clearly dug ourselves into a hole. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #55 |
79. dupe |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #55 |
80. dupe -- |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #55 |
81. The amount of GREEN work required to save the planet and ourselves would keep us all |
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TCJ70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #52 |
66. I don't think we should put them out of work... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #66 |
82. Right . . . plenty of GREEN jobs for our military . . . |
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Robeson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:36 PM Response to Reply #52 |
88. I would imagine good job training programs, and a tooling of those industries... |
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bergie321 (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
53. Unfortunately |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
56. Also, tax the rich. nt |
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kennedyphan (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
57. Barney Frank says Obama is afraid to cut defense spending, lest he be perceived as weak |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. American well-being is far more endangered by a proposal for substantial reductions in Medicare, SS |
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LiberalLovinLug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:55 PM Response to Reply #57 |
89. He's a Democrat |
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FBI_Un_Sub (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
58. We can no longer be the world's policeman |
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FlyByNight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
61. Austerity applies to the rest of us and... |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I'm all for spending smarter and dropping the blunt force tact. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
64. K&R |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Amen |
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Spheric (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
69. K&R I'm right there with you. Pissed off. /nt |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
73. Jawohl. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
74. Ever since the Reagan administration, both the Republicans and their allies (the DLC) |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Totally agree. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Original name was "War Department" or "Department of War" . . . that's what we have !! |
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hard2portorscuttle (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
76. It's not even |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
77. Pelosi morning after '06 ... on video... "Democrats were elected to end the war" --!! |
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clarence swinney (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
83. WRECKONOMICS II--- |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
84. We REALLY are War Slaves. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. +1 |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
86. Quote: "GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES WHO WANT TO SPEND THIS MONEY ON WAR AND KILLING! " |
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BlueJac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
87. We can't do that......... |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:03 PM Response to Reply #87 |
97. Fear |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
90. That's the obvious solution |
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Agony (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
92. additionally, military spending creates fewer jobs per dollar than civilian spending |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. +++ |
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Agony (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. hey! I've had lifelong training in the vernacular and besides I recently took the refresher |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
96. K&R....n/t |
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feslen (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
99. Make War, not Peace |
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